Real ski was good but i want some other guys in it

Chrischi69

Chrischi69

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I liked the realski parts but there was some back country shots and shots in a actual park. Wish they had more urban guys like someone from child labor especially cal carlson. Or like jake mageau again i really liked his past parts.
 
Mango was over it after doing it for two years, says it wasnt worth it for the ammount of work.

But I agree they need more urban specialists in this comp and make it urban shots only again.
 
14248370:RichKid said:
I hope next year they have some of the guy in Zootspace like Paddy Flanagan, Forster Meeks, Andy Partridge, or Anders Fornelius
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I doubt that any of those guys would accept an invite. Not that I blame them of course. Especially since real ski is no longer street-only (or maybe its only for this year idk)
 
14248364:poofartpee said:
Mango was over it after doing it for two years, says it wasnt worth it for the ammount of work.

But I agree they need more urban specialists in this comp and make it urban shots only again.
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Oh damn that sucks but i respect it
 
14248414:Christian_Bale said:
I doubt that any of those guys would accept an invite. Not that I blame them of course. Especially since real ski is no longer street-only (or maybe its only for this year idk)
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Yeah its weird how there was some backcountry and park i thought the whole point was urban shots
 
I'd like to see some younger guys in it. Harald or Cal Carson for instance. And this might be an unpopular opinion, but I was disappointed with Tanner Hall being included instead of someone like Cal. He looked much more uncomfortable on rails than the others and frankly his street clips were not on the same level. Tanner is a legend of course, and it's incredible that he's doing what he's doing at 37. But at this point I think someone like Harald has more to offer in regard to street skiing.
 
14248427:Christian_Bale said:
I'd like to see some younger guys in it. Harald or Cal Carson for instance. And this might be an unpopular opinion, but I was disappointed with Tanner Hall being included instead of someone like Cal. He looked much more uncomfortable on rails than the others and frankly his street clips were not on the same level. Tanner is a legend of course, and it's incredible that he's doing what he's doing at 37. But at this point I think someone like Harald has more to offer in regard to street skiing.
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Yeah i did see him at this middle school by my house so that was cool but his shots were mostly back country and he wasnt great during his urban shots.
 
14248678:gravel said:
format change has nothing to do with covid
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It's hilarious how many people are commenting saying the format changed because of covid. No it changed so ESPN could share more content of more well known athletes to get higher ratings and open the door to comp athletes who have less time to do a street project. Aka fucking over the less followed core street skiers.
 
14248838:Upstate_Willis said:
It's hilarious how many people are commenting saying the format changed because of covid. No it changed so ESPN could share more content of more well known athletes to get higher ratings and open the door to comp athletes who have less time to do a street project. Aka fucking over the less followed core street skiers.
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qfe
 
14248838:Upstate_Willis said:
It's hilarious how many people are commenting saying the format changed because of covid. No it changed so ESPN could share more content of more well known athletes to get higher ratings and open the door to comp athletes who have less time to do a street project. Aka fucking over the less followed core street skiers.
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would it be possible to do a newschoolers real ski that is actually core and swagger?

or is ns too small for the pros to want to win somthing like that
 
14248427:Christian_Bale said:
I'd like to see some younger guys in it. Harald or Cal Carson for instance. And this might be an unpopular opinion, but I was disappointed with Tanner Hall being included instead of someone like Cal. He looked much more uncomfortable on rails than the others and frankly his street clips were not on the same level. Tanner is a legend of course, and it's incredible that he's doing what he's doing at 37. But at this point I think someone like Harald has more to offer in regard to street skiing.
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I think he was just battling injuries. I have a feeling if he had a full filming sesh those prolly wouldn’t have made the cut. We know that dudes ability I don’t think there’s any questioning it really.
 
14248925:FruitBootPro said:
Am I the only one who really isn't that bothered by the backcountry parts?
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The parts themelves werent bad but like they shouldnt have been allowed and it shouldve been pure urban
 
i want to see:

Lauri Kivari

Harold Hellstrom

Tuukka Pori

Elias Syrja

Cal Carson

Issac Sihmon (ez panda)

Will Berman

Oystein Braten

Hugo Burval

Carson Kerr

Andy Partidge

Pete Koukov

Dylan Manley

Ian King

Meeks (but actually no i dont want meeks getting injured again :( )

also crews would be so sick

B&E

Forre (+keesh?)

Bunch

Zoot

Strictly

Capeesh/Magma dudes
 
14248852:gorbdawggybrent said:
would it be possible to do a newschoolers real ski that is actually core and swagger?

or is ns too small for the pros to want to win somthing like that
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I think anything is possible but the amount of time and money that goes into a 90 second Realski is pretty absurd. The worst of that is that Xgames puts up enough for maybe 1/8 or 1/4 of it. If you don't have sponsors behind you the athlete is just paying out of pocket to make it happen to be apart of Xgames. So if another entity did it, it would have to be super proper. Think TGR Co-Lab. That was so legit, and really gave athletes a reason to put themselves in the position they do for Xgames. What I mean by that, is when the skiers get into the mindset for a Realski it's that they're really willing to put it all on the line, so if it's not for the Xgames medal that they've been dreaming about since they began their career, than it better be for something well worth it. In short, a NS Realski styled video contest could be real dope but they'd have to be a ton of funding and prize money behind it to make it worth IMO. I'm a filmer not a skier tho, so others may feel different.
 
14248983:Upstate_Willis said:
I think anything is possible but the amount of time and money that goes into a 90 second Realski is pretty absurd. The worst of that is that Xgames puts up enough for maybe 1/8 or 1/4 of it. If you don't have sponsors behind you the athlete is just paying out of pocket to make it happen to be apart of Xgames. So if another entity did it, it would have to be super proper. Think TGR Co-Lab. That was so legit, and really gave athletes a reason to put themselves in the position they do for Xgames. What I mean by that, is when the skiers get into the mindset for a Realski it's that they're really willing to put it all on the line, so if it's not for the Xgames medal that they've been dreaming about since they began their career, than it better be for something well worth it. In short, a NS Realski styled video contest could be real dope but they'd have to be a ton of funding and prize money behind it to make it worth IMO. I'm a filmer not a skier tho, so others may feel different.
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Yeah hackel and ahall just said on their live that they get around 10k and the majority of that is used just to cover licensing for the songs.
 
14248989:ASAPCarter said:
Yeah hackel and ahall just said on their live that they get around 10k and the majority of that is used just to cover licensing for the songs.
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song licensing is variable. you can pay much cheaper than 10k for licensing depending on the artists you work with. for example, music licenses for both of the realskis i have worked on have been less than 1k.

this year the budget from x games for the production of every part was 10k/team. last year i believe it was 7.5k/team. this year they reduced the prize money in order to give everyone larger budgets.
 
14249020:gravel said:
song licensing is variable. you can pay much cheaper than 10k for licensing depending on the artists you work with. for example, music licenses for both of the realskis i have worked on have been less than 1k.

this year the budget from x games for the production of every part was 10k/team. last year i believe it was 7.5k/team. this year they reduced the prize money in order to give everyone larger budgets.
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yeah I'm sure there's a lot of variation there. that's just what Alex and Alex were saying, that licensing ate up most of their budgets. correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure ahall said the original song he wanted was gonna be 15k so he ended up going with the current one for around 7k. but yeah I'll bet there's plenty of obscure artists that can go a lot cheaper. you prob know a lot more than I do
 
solution: keep real ski street only, bring back real ski backcountry and just don't invite sammy so it's actually competive lol

Xgames now gets 2 contests they can make money off of, they can get interest from the msp/tgr crowd which is bigger than the street crowd anyway, and we can hopefully get more legit street skiers in real ski, and dope pow only dudes as well in the other contest.

I would love to see dudes like harald, a4, krypto, and many others in real ski but unfortunately I don't think they have big enough sponsors to get noticed by xgames, hopefully it doesn't turn into comp skiers only. And I would love to see dudes like wachs and tinky throw down in real ski backcountry
 
14248852:gorbdawggybrent said:
would it be possible to do a newschoolers real ski that is actually core and swagger?

or is ns too small for the pros to want to win somthing like that
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someone should organize a ns only urban comp where ppl can just go and stack some clips for a minute edit or whatever then submit it. don't have to be pro or anything. then other ns users vote on a winner
 
14249260:sunsetconoisseur said:
someone should organize a ns only urban comp where ppl can just go and stack some clips for a minute edit or whatever then submit it. don't have to be pro or anything. then other ns users vote on a winner
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Yeah I was actually thinking of something similar that xgames would organize, would never happen but just a thought. Something similar to superunknown but even more for the "unknown". Submit at 1:30-2:00 edit from previous years of only street footy. A group of judges choose a top 6 solely based on that and they follow the same comp format for real street. It's a shame that you basically can't create a name for yourself unless you have 5k on insta. I feel like 9/10 most riders in video comps are supported by sponsors and have clout already which imo defeats the whole purpose...so many riders out there that are being slept on.

King of the Park 2021

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14248870:ASAPCarter said:
I know Meeks was injured, but it’d be sick to see him, panda, krypto, kimbo, and Noah albaladejo get a shot next year
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Well, this is embarrassing. Maybe my memory just sucks, but I just realized that both Kim and Noah already made a real ski. Oops...
 
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