Rahlves INTELLIGENT Response to Tanner

What you people need to do is make peace and respect each skier for what they are. Not take sides.

You're still herding swine as a profession -Anewmorning

Dont start with me...

Ill get drunk tonite and make posts that will make your eyes bleed -Lord_Piot

But, you can always fall back on your degree in... Communications! Oh, dear Lord!

I know! Is phony major. Lubchenko learn nothing. Nothing!

Our greatest glory consists not in never falling. But in rising every time we fall.

 
'seriously, tanner is the better skier rahlves may dabble in big mtn, but tanner kills on rails, pipe, park and big mtn(well to an extent) all we say rahlves doing is jsut downhill and super G, he sucks at slalom and GS, bode is arguably a better skier i think.'

haha, he sucks at slalom and GS? thats pretty damn funny. it may not be his best decipline, but come now,would you like to race him in a GS course?

I don't deny there are bad things in the US right now, hell, 51% of the country to be exact. But god damnit, our country being fat is NOT a problem. I do't give a shit how fat people are. hell, fat kids are harder to kidnap, that means our country is safer.

-melvs
 
'i also think its humorous that they left out that T is also a sucessful entreapeauner(sp), hes not as dumb and ignorant as they think....plus im willing to be T is a much nicer guy than rahlves(ive chilled with T not rahlves so i dunno)'

actually i kinda doubt that. i went to the nat'l championships last year, and darron was nice as hell. and it kinda seems like tanner might be an asshole. maybe not though, im not gonna talk because ive never met him. hes a hero at skiing though

I don't deny there are bad things in the US right now, hell, 51% of the country to be exact. But god damnit, our country being fat is NOT a problem. I do't give a shit how fat people are. hell, fat kids are harder to kidnap, that means our country is safer.

-melvs
 
Umm Armada, C-Crew productions movie next year?

You're still herding swine as a profession -Anewmorning

Dont start with me...

Ill get drunk tonite and make posts that will make your eyes bleed -Lord_Piot

But, you can always fall back on your degree in... Communications! Oh, dear Lord!

I know! Is phony major. Lubchenko learn nothing. Nothing!

Our greatest glory consists not in never falling. But in rising every time we fall.

 
Well he didn't invest in Armada so technically it doesn't count. But he risked lots jumping from rossi, and he puts lots of time in. So I would say he's doing something.

You're still herding swine as a profession -Anewmorning

Dont start with me...

Ill get drunk tonite and make posts that will make your eyes bleed -Lord_Piot

But, you can always fall back on your degree in... Communications! Oh, dear Lord!

I know! Is phony major. Lubchenko learn nothing. Nothing!

Our greatest glory consists not in never falling. But in rising every time we fall.

 
What I've been trying to say incohesivly in the two previous stupid posts is that he's a shareholder in Armada and all the time he puts in pays dividends in the success of teh company. So I would say he's investing.

Bleh.

You're still herding swine as a profession -Anewmorning

Dont start with me...

Ill get drunk tonite and make posts that will make your eyes bleed -Lord_Piot

But, you can always fall back on your degree in... Communications! Oh, dear Lord!

I know! Is phony major. Lubchenko learn nothing. Nothing!

Our greatest glory consists not in never falling. But in rising every time we fall.

 
Yeah I don't think some people realize how hard and scary it can be when speeding down a Downhill course at 80+ mph. I've run a downhill course and I wan't even going 50 mph and I have to say, it took skill.

Daron Rhalves seemed like a very nice guy when I met him. I'm not saying that one type of skiing is harder, but Tanner needs to stop representing newskool skiing with a punk-ass attitude.

AK BC SESH
 
I think that all freestylers dont suck at racing and tanner could make it down, and all racers dont suck at freestyle and could throw down some stuff in the park. I watched Parker Gray, a NORAM skier back in the mid 90's when flips were big league stuff, he was throwin backflips off of crazy shit and 720's you name it, he is now my coach and I am willing to be he will tool on a lot of racers and a lot of freestylers. There isnt a catagory to seperate racers and freestylers but styles and ability levels.

 
Thall may not have said what he did in a nice way, but i cant help but agree with him. i want to see body miller or this little shit talker try to grind a rail. how about try a 360. how about even dropping a cliff. gates limit you to turning, freeriding is everything. when i want to turn i go to the backcountry. when i want to jump i go to the park. that guy didnt know what he was talking about. all i have to say to him is, 'here are the dates, jan 29- feb 1', lets see whether u will drop into a pipe in front of the whole skiing comunity at vail during the us open.

 
ok, so some of you morons claim we havent seen tanner out of the park...

ARE YOU RETARDED???

in 1242 that guy is all OVER ak. maybe he does have a little too much weight on his inside foot, but to be honest, it looks a whole lot better. and i have yet to see rhalves or any other racer as out of their element as t.hall is in ak. he throws 180's on steep ass faces for christs sake. and im pretty sure he could ski down their course.

the point though is that t.hall is our representative, and unfortunately he is a good indicator of the types of kids skiing park right now. no matter though, because when super pipe is in thge olympics hell be at home and well have some random pro representing us, cuz he wont pass any drug tests.

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way cool
 
'But jumping on rails is more like rollerblades. To me it’s not skiing. If you’re skiing, you’re taking stuff on the mountain and using natural terrain and stuff.'

Wow...so what do you call your water-injected FIS courses? Natural?

While we're at it, let's talk about something else that is relevant here. Bode Miller makes either in the very high 6 figures, or very low 7. Part of that money involves American sponsors. Now, Bode Miller's media coverage in the US? Not a lot. Especially when compared to Tanner Hall, who, believe me, makes nowhere near as much as Miller. Tanner's everywhere. All over magazines, videos, ski shop point of purchase merchandising, and on and on. Let's not forget the prime time pipe contest at Winter X last year, which garnered the biggest TV audience ever for Winter X. It also happened to be many, many, many times bigger than any worldcup DH north american TV audience, not counting the Olympic downhills(as excluded the 'world cup' in the first statement, but most of you are idiots, so..).

The point to all of this media exposure crap? As far as Tanner's comments regarding Bode's salary, he's right. He's worth more to sponsors, in North America, than Bode Miller can ever dream of being worth. Something that some people will never figure out.

FYI: None of this applies in Europe, where the scene does a complete 180 and racing still rules.

Bahahaha... or, you could call it the 'elitist snob' cult. Anyways, my family already owns a country club, so no thanks.

J.D. May
 
Tanner hall is a incredible freestyler but as daron said he is young and very very punk. I'm sure that jon olsson wouldn't say that because he know that that is.

Tanner isn't a great allround skier, his big lines suck if you compare with jon olsson, mark adma, eric pollard.... i don't want to say if you compare with the freerider pros.

If tanner go to word cup donwhill he come at home crying

 
Both need to back down and show mutual respect. I don't like Tanner as the personality behind our sport. He is one of, if not the best jibber, but his attitude sucks. If he bitches about not getting paid as much as Bode, or Rhalves, he shouldn't be trying to keep freeskiing core. It won't work, you can't have tons of money, and no big company backing. All of you who take Tanner's side are hippocrites. All of you who take Rhalves' side are too. Being pissed off at someone for no reason other than the aspect of skiing they participate in, and hating someone for doing the same thing to you is hipocracy in its purist form.

Both need to just stop before someone gets hurt ACCEPTING someone elses challenge. That goes for both of them. Each is great in their particular dicipline, but out of their element, the risk during each activity is insane.

Tanner is not an entrepreneur, learn meaning before using words. Investing in real estate is not new and innovative in it's field. Look up intrepreneur while you are at it.

'I own all the pbp films starting back with happy dayz. I would say this forsure is my least favorite.' -lineroyalarmy
 
man, this is Newschoolers.com. if i cared about anything that has to do with racing, i wouldn't even be here. bottom line...i'm more impressed by what thall can do than any racer in the world...and that's just never going to change. should he have said what he said? probably not, but he'z free to say wutever the hell he wants.

 
FUCK RACING.

all of you sticking up for that should just leave freesking forever.

racing is the complete oppositte of what freeskiing is about. opposite attitiude, opposite goals.

they are two completly different sports. its like comparing hockey to figure skating. you have the right to hate racing becuase it is lame if thats what you think.

w.m.h
 
ifsa_alum

Bam! exactly. way to provide the key footage. Rahleves rips and, like Tanner, lives and breathes skiing. In order to excel at one discipline you must specialize. That's what both guys did, so why should they or anyone like them talk shit on the other. Tanner started it, and opened this heinous can o' worms. Only the stupidest of hack-shows continues to fuel the rift. All skiers at the top of their game are the shit and deserve respect.

 
It comes down to not being a dick. Why should anyone who supports racing leave this site. What if by chance they see skiing as skiing, no matter the dicipline, as a sport that to be good at demands full commitment of your life, in most cases.

I, for one, don't watch too much racing. I like the occasional Downhill, and Super G, but too much and it is boring to watch. That doesn't make it easy, and demand less as a skier to do. It's like golf, bowling, or ping pong, it can bore you to death watching, but playing it is usually fairly entertaining.

Freesking in general has a chip on its shoulder. We're the 'new guys' to the sport. The things we do are pushing skiing in a totally new, innovative direction, but why the bitterness toward anything but freeskiing? I just don't understand. I am not a racer, not a stellar park, pipe, or rail skier, but I don't care. I feel I am somewhat of a well rounded skier in that I enjoy all aspects, including tearing down groomer arcing GS turns. I ski steeps, and trees, right down to the park to screw around on jumps and rails. If you do nothing but ride park, good for you, you found something like and want to concentrate all your efforts there. That doesn't give you the right to say anything but that sucks, and is way easier.

I find if funny this thread is in an uproar about something this site does everyday to skiboarding, and rollerblading. You guys are pissed about someone hating on the icon of your style of skiing, while you hate on someone from a different style of skiing. WHY? Why is it ok for us, as freeskiers, to hate every other aspect of skiing other than what we participate in, yet take offense to someone doing the same thing?

I stand by my first post...both need to back up and show some respect for eachother. It just makes both of them look bad. I agree that they should switch diciplines for a day. Tanner should strap up a pair of 215s and rip a DH line like he says he can, and Rhalves should through on some Thall pros and prove his claims about anyone being able to ski park and pipe. It would be a huge reality check for both.

'I own all the pbp films starting back with happy dayz. I would say this forsure is my least favorite.' -lineroyalarmy
 
I never was a racer, but all my friends were. They work fuckin hard man, and to be on the top of that aspect of the sport is a great accomplishment. Maybe tanner doesnt like that side of skiing, but it doesnt mean he can put it down. He and many other professional newschool skiers look great in the air, but a very valid point was made...watch them SKI.

I'm sure many newschoolers a very good SKIERS. But don't put down another skier cause he races. That is just ignorant.

As for this guy, he may sound full of himself. But he is responding the way I would if someone attacked the sport I love and have dedicated my life to as well...

We'll have you dead pretty soon.
 
ellerman: FUCK RACING

And you said something about 'opposite attitude, opposite goals.'

Lets see here: T hall competes. Rhalves competes. T Hall likes to win (which he does and we doesn't he pouts like A FUCKING BITCH--remember X Games Global?). Rhalves likes to win. So far, it seems like they're pretty like minded to me.

What doesn't exist is the necessary respect. Just because someone does something you don't enjoy doesn't mean its not difficult, not cool, or not worthy of your respect.

Intolerance gets us nowhere.

 
tanner needs to take him up on his challenge, it would be one of the best things for ns sking... if he makes it of course

fuck a book
 
i'd love to see thall take on the challenge...and hopefully kill it!

Small, simple, safe price. Rise the wake and carry me with all of my regrets. This is not a small cut that scabs and dries and flakes and heals. And I am not afraid to die. I\'m not afraid to bleed and fuck and fight. I want the pain of payment. What\'s left but a section of pigmy-sized cuts. Much like a slew of a thousand unwanted fucks. Would you be my little cut? Would you be my thousand fucks? And make mark leaving space for the guilt to be liquid. To fill and spill over and under my thoughts. My sad, sorry, selfish craft of the cutter. I\'m cutting trying to picture your black broken heart. Love is not like anything, especially a fucking knife!

- Bert McCracken
 
I think both of them are pretty dumb in theyre statements, Tanner cant see or accept the skill/musclepower/endurance it takes to go down a DH run.

But still i think alot freeskiers can handle speed pretty good, like when jon did the world record QP jump he was pulled by a snowmobile in like 130 - 140 km/h and then went bananas with a flip on a huge jump.

Or Candides huge jump in High society 2 or what it was.

Jumps like that really demand skill and muscle power to control the skis in that speed.

But still i would die doing either some huge jump or a DH run so w-ever.

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'Its only in fresh powder the lonely skier leaves his tracks.

Its only in fresh powder an artist can express himself'

Arnold Lunn, 1925
 
And just watch hugo harrison, i wonder how fast he goes in the BC, watch his slam in HH happy happy, thats fast.

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'Its only in fresh powder the lonely skier leaves his tracks.

Its only in fresh powder an artist can express himself'

Arnold Lunn, 1925
 
how bout we show some support to tanner, not side with this racer that called our sport rollerblading and that we're doing the same thing over and over again, cuz we're not thats why there are different tricks, HE is the ignorant asshole fuckthis racer.

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I HATE NEW YORK PRODUCTIONS

i hate new york trailer

 
theres alot of hate in this post... Racers arent as good as Taner hall and freestyle skiers arent as good as this rahvles character...Its a totally different aspect of skiing... we all have a different point of view... We think were the cool skiers but they think there the cool skiers with there spandex suits and all

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When your not sure about something, just HUCK IT!
 
fuck racing and fuck whoever that homo racer is.

'I want to see him strap on some 215’s. He couldn’t even turn those things, couldn’t even ski a clean arc on those things.'

why the fuck would anyone want to 'strap on some 215's'? what is he trying to prove? it's not 1956 anymore. If skiing was still about making 'smooth' turns with '215's' i'd switch to snowboarding. at least then i'd still get to hit some park. that faggot is just jelous Tanner is 100 times more sucessfull them him. i hope he gets jumped by T and his boys

Park Life

 
yeah i wouldnt fight tanner hall for my life hes a beast.

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'Its only in fresh powder the lonely skier leaves his tracks.

Its only in fresh powder an artist can express himself'

Arnold Lunn, 1925
 
I want to see tanner on some 215s going down a downhill course that would be prime. hopefully he takes that challenge and makes it down the course, but i dunno, tanners gotta be one of the scrawniest pros out there

FUCK BIGGIE
 
'that faggot is just jelous Tanner is 100 times more sucessfull them him.'

I bet D. Rahlves makes more money than Tanner, if that's what you mean by 'successful'.

I don't know karate, but I know Ka-razy
 
^I believe I went through why that doesn't make any sense as far as the North American market is concerned, when media exposure is taken into account . It's especially true in a non-olympic year.

Bahahaha... or, you could call it the 'elitist snob' cult. Anyways, my family already owns a country club, so no thanks.

J.D. May
 
who the fuck are you kids standing up for some spandex wearing tool, over one of the best freeskiers. god dammn

w.m.h
 
Because Tanner is a wannabe wanksta that needs to shut the fuck up and ski. Because obviously his skiing skill far exceeds his brain activity.

I don't know karate, but I know Ka-razy
 
wtf i really don't get it. why are people here defending racers?

'Sorry to all those racers out there,' Hall said, 'but in 10 years you guys ain't going to be nothing.'

 
Because the racer called Tanner out and will win any argument based on fact. Rahlves and Bode are both less cocky and better all around skiers than Tanner. Yes, T is driven and talented, but he would be embarassed skiing on big skis.

Both the racers have and will ski big mountains and hit jumps and do tricks, but if you were making a million a year would you spend tons of time learning tricks?

 
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