Rahlves INTELLIGENT Response to Tanner

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I got this from an article herehttp://www.skiracing.com/profiles/news_displayProfile.php/1989/

Daron Rahlves responds to Tanner Hall's disparaging comments about ski racers

December 01, 2004

This November, World Cup downhiller Daron Rahlves has been trading some trash talk with new-school freeride icon Tanner Hall. Sitting in the lobby of a Beaver Creek hotel at this week's World Cups, Rahlves responded to some disparaging comments Hall had made in the pages of Freeskier Magazine. Here is some of what Rahlves said to assembled sports writers.

'He had some good things to say about how he loves skiing, and how he needs to thank his parents for giving him this opportunity. Which is great. That’s how most kids start, and it’s good to see the respect there. But the question was, what do you feel about Bode Miller making these multimillion-dollar contracts, and he’s like 'it’s b------ man,' and 'this man' and 'that man.' And 'downhill racing’s so easy,' and 'all you have to do is go top to bottom and there’s no changes in terrain.'

'Are you kidding me? If somebody’s going to be talking smack about something and putting something down, they should know. He’s not educated enough. He’s young, and he’s in his own little freeskiing world. To me, I think it’s great the way they expand the sport, and it’s something the industry must pay attention to. But jumping on rails is more like rollerblades. To me it’s not skiing. If you’re skiing, you’re taking stuff on the mountain and using natural terrain and stuff. These guys are impressive and they work hard to accomplish these tricks, but it’s the same thing over and over again.

'He says 'man' so many times in his interview, he should learn to be a man and respect those guys that have earned something. We get paid well because we’re obviously doing something for the sport. I pose a challenge to Tanner. I said 'I’ll hook you up with some downhill boards and you come up to Val Gardena or Kitzbuhel. And just make it to the bottom. That’s all I ask.' I gave him the dates. December 15-18 and January 21-23…

'I’m not claiming anything, and I’m not trying to put down freeskiing at all, because it’s a great part of the sport. But there’s a lot of respect that they should give us even if they don’t think it’s quite what they have. We’re out there doing what we can, and it’s not easy. I want to see him strap on some 215’s. He couldn’t even turn those things, couldn’t even ski a clean arc on those things.

'I think what Tanner Hall is getting to is saying that ski racers just go top to bottom racing gates and that’s it. Another thing he said was, 'you get me on a downhill and I’ll make it to the bottom, and I might not be as fast as these guys, but you put any ski racer in a pipe and he won’t even drop in.'

'That’s wrong. It’s wrong that he could make it to the bottom, plus it’s wrong that I wouldn’t drop in.'

 
Still rhalves is a pompous jackass. Fuck Im not even tanner and I could carve an arc on his 215 race skis.

 
ahh, does any body remember what tanner did before he became a freeskier? thats right! he was a mogul skier, and im shure he dabbled in racing. i hope he goes and shows this guy that he can ski outside the park, and he is a great all around skier.

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^^ agreed

'what?' Lauren every time you ask her a question for the first time!

skiing what i thought this was a porn site and every one i was talking to were sexy ppl ..i thought skiing was a sex term we all uesed. damn!-twintiprider

 
No one is saying THall sucks as a skier. Obviously he could out ski anyone on this site. But the comments he said about racers were ignorant. He should keep his mouth shut unless he has an intelligent opnion because, unfortunately, he is the face of freeskiing

 
UNLESS YOU HAVE RACED DOWNHILL AT A NORAM OR AT THE LEAST A FIS LEVEL, SHUT THE HELL UP.

really though, until you have done it, don't even try to say you could. I garuntee you if tanner even tried to race a DH in europe, it would be his funeral. I think rhalves is showing tremendious maturity and respect to the freeskiing community and totaly realizes tanner only speaks for himself. and having skied with members of national alpine teams, most of them can hold their own in a park or big mountain.

 
All i need to say is why do we give Tanner Hall any respect as a skier? He is an uneducated jackass prick. O man i would love to see tanner try to ski a downhill course, Skiing his gorilla steeze hahahahahahahahah that would the funnest thing in the world

 
then i guess i can keep talking on this one.

'what?' Lauren every time you ask her a question for the first time!

skiing what i thought this was a porn site and every one i was talking to were sexy ppl ..i thought skiing was a sex term we all uesed. damn!-twintiprider

 
tANNER HAS a fucking amazing point about how he will make it to the bottom but they wont drop it. It is so true. He has WAY more SKILL on skis than any of them. You cant argue that he wouldnt make it to the bottom of any mountain OR be able to ski well outside the park because we have all seen him too it. On the other hand, I would like to see this racing queer even do a 360 or get 1 foot out of the pipe.

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ha, he should except the challenge, that would be great, but I doubt he will back it up

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if tanner ever got any form of racing background, he must have had to hit his head pretty hard to relearn the a-frame style and all his weight over his inside ski. He looks so sketch in the park when 'turning' between hits or rails.

I will say again, I wish I could do half the tinkgs he can, and he is a amazing skier, but how the fuck can anyone think he is the man? he's an absolute fucktard. How can he act so angry and gangster all the time? He's a scrawny white kid from an upper class family that brought him to nice ski hills for his entire youth on the weekends and sent him to a ski school...

I agree with everyone that thinks he sucks because while he is a incrediable skier, all his talent is overshadowed by his arrogant, 'hard' attitude

 
tanner said 'go' not 'drop in'

i think its funny that rhalves is challening him, puts freeskiing down, then says its a great part of a sport, there are both so biased with their opinions....just let them fight



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Still don't get the 'same thing, over and over again' comment. What does he think racers do? They follow almost the EXACT same line, over and over again.

 
I can almost guarentee you that 'this racer queer' can do a 360 or get 1 foot out of the pipe. racers have so much technical background and are such solid all around skiers they have the ability to do a helluva alot of freestyle. Jon Olsson was/is a top notch racer and a top notch freeskier. I'd love to here his opinion on this

 
Tanner also wasn't talking about the actual in particular in the interview, more or less the people who can't see another part of skiing besides racing. TAnner never said the pro racers don't have skill, just that ski companies and organizations put too much focus on them when there is a whole other side of skiing that is pretty much looked down upon by these organizations.

Tanner saying the whole 'I could ski your course, but you can't ski a pipe' thing was basically his way of saying that these guys get way too much attention. If you have competed freestyle on USSA you would know exactly what I am talking about. For USSA freestyle doesn't mean shit, all their money andsupport goes to racing, which is kind of odd considering the US Freestyle team has like the top 3 spots in World Cup rankings.

The point Tanner is trying to make is that the whole freeride movement has done so much for skiing in the past decade, yet the majority these big companies and organizations fail to recognize that, he just tends to not say things in the most likeable way.

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'tANNER HAS a fucking amazing point about how he will make it to the bottom but they wont drop it. It is so true. He has WAY more SKILL on skis than any of them. You cant argue that he wouldnt make it to the bottom of any mountain OR be able to ski well outside the park because we have all seen him too it. On the other hand, I would like to see this racing queer even do a 360 or get 1 foot out of the pipe. '

again, your point is baseless because a) you have never seen a world cup DH course. Tanner wouldn't make it. and b) rhalves can do 360's and backflips, etc. sure he's not close to tanners skill in the park, but he doesn't claim to be.

and to: freeski1620, if you have raced DH, you totally understand what Im trying to say. What you have accomplished is great and you understand the difficulty of finishing a race at those speeds and icy conditions. and how you can't fathom the difficulty of something that you have never tried

 
just so people know....and im sure you do.. its not just newschool skiers talking shit on racers.

I cant count how many times ive been skiing at hood in the summer and on my way down to windells been stoped by some race coach that says i cut through his course and that we are all fucking jibbers that dont listen to anybody.. then standing in the lift line at the palmer...in the morning waiting to go up. the same fucking coach will point at me and start talking to his other buddies and shake there heads at me. One of the coaches even stoped the liftie and had him check my ticket to make sure that it was not cliped.

they are just as bad as we are when it comes to talking shit/

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i use to race and i hate it i personally think it's not fun at all but i think it was wrong of tanner to say that. rahlves has his head straight

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in the interview i totally agree with tanner. the biggest difference that racers have to deal with is the lenght of the course. i pissed now.

So I told him if you say that again im gonna stick this bowl of gucamole up your ass.

Long story short, that is the worst bowl of gucamole iv'e ever tasted
 
someone up there said exactly the same thing as me. tanners point was correct and he is just too overemotional for most people to see what he is talking about.

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i have a whole new respect for thall racings so gay tanner should go and show that bitch up then invite him to park city and have him hit some of the rails and jumps he hits

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haha typical newschoolers, why bash an aspect of skiing when u can respect every aspect... atleast my opinion is that skiing is skiing, all aspects take different skills to master...so instead of bitching about what part of skiing is the coolest, why dont u support skiing and get out on the mountain and do your thing, who gives a fuck what it is just have fun, isnt that why we ski?

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can someone post exactl6y what tanner said? or what issue is it in?

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oh yeah? well me and my friends have been bathing off the southern coast of st. bards, chilling with spider monkeys. tripping on acid gave us a whole new perspective on shit.
 
thank you jib.ninja for finally making an inteligent post about t Halls style. Someone on this site accually knows the correct stance. T hall would get his ass kicked in a race course because he skis for far back on his tails. ahaha and the A frame is so true. Shoening had a very good point too, yes maybe you dont like racing but he stills gives them respect. O yeah and for the kid who said something about skiing into the race course. If infact you did ski into the course (no saying you did or didnt but plenty of non racers do it every day) it is your fault, people dont realize how dangerous it can be. I have seen skiers who unknownly will cross into a course and a racer becomes serioulsy injuried because he cannot stop intime. Think of it this way, what would you do if a little punk desided to sit down on the landing of a jump just as you are hitting it, wouldnt you be pissed off too? i know i would.

 
I think Hall's ego has gone to much to his head. He shouldn't be knocking the racing aspect of this sport. A person of his ability should show a little class, especially with how one sided his abilities are. He is unquestionably one the best, if not the best, park rider in the world. However, from what I have seen, I could make a list of people who are better than him in bumps and big mountain and I don't even need to touch racing. He should show respect for other great athletes and competitors. If he has any respect at all, he should show some for other styles of skiing.

Come on Tanner, we are all on two planks here. The comments that you make are poorly representing the newschool movement. If you show others no respect, don't expect any in return.

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seriously, tanner is the better skier rahlves may dabble in big mtn, but tanner kills on rails, pipe, park and big mtn(well to an extent) all we say rahlves doing is jsut downhill and super G, he sucks at slalom and GS, bode is arguably a better skier i think.

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i agree with the racers i ski alot of park but still it takes alot more skill to just freeride than ski the park, becuase you see kids in the park throwing down mad shit and then you see them outside of the park and you think they are going to die, and thats what tanner would look like dh racing. racing is completely different than just skiing and carving, its speed timing ice its fucking nuts. by the way im not a racer but tanner had no reason to say that about them.

 
^ yeah i fully support that Quinny.

Not excatly sure here but as i remember twin tips make up less then 10% of the ski sales. Granted that twin tip says grew by a huge amount last year but none the less its still a signifantly smaller number then race ski sales. So when Tanner Hall complains about how much money, just remember your pay check directly relates to the amount of product you sell. O wait if tanner accually went to school maybe he would know that

 
fuck that tanner is a way better skier when it comes to freeskiing against anyone it is crazy some of the shit he does and be super nasty, but he is nothing nothing not even close to as good at just skiing compared to any world cup racer i dont care what you say.

 
tanner may act like a prick but im glad he is representing us. i dont want someone that will sit there and take shit from some racing queer. he may be uneducated, but he presents two valid points. it doesn't matter if he is grammatically correct, because he is morally correct. racers are fucking fags.

werd.
 
whatever ignorance is present goes both ways. i'm gonna have to side with tanner on this, because rahlves completely disregards newschool skiing as even a viable aspect of the sport. he says that sliding rails and stuff isn't even part of the sport, it's more like rollerblading, not skiing. maybe i'm wrong, but that sounds like the same closed-mindedness that we're fighting every damn day. what's important is not that tanner said racing was easy (cuz he was wrong when he said that). what's important is that he's saying there's this whole other side of the sport (newschool skiing) that's been overlooked and unrecognized by ski companies despite the way that it has refreshed and reinvigorated the sport. newschool skiing has made skiing cool again. it's this aspect of the sport that is drawing in young skiers now, who will be the driving force in ski purchases in the market in years to come. racing hasn't driven the youth movement, newschool has. that's a lot of buying power that will manifest itself in the future, and ski companies ought to recognize and support it more.

the debate isn't (or shouldn't be) about skill, but about getting recognition for what this aspect of the sport has done for skiing.

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i think darren is forgetting that tanner used to chase gates for a while when he made the comment about him not even getting down...

 
i also think its humorous that they left out that T is also a sucessful entreapeauner(sp), hes not as dumb and ignorant as they think....plus im willing to be T is a much nicer guy than rahlves(ive chilled with T not rahlves so i dunno)

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skispring7 you are a disgrace to the gene pool. why don't you marry your sister already and move into that double wide trailer you've had your eye on and just enjoy your mayonaise sandwich without bothering those with consciouse thoughts traveling through their heads. Catagorizing racers as fags is the same bullshit prejudices' that freeskiers try to dispell as being park rat punks, or snowboarders do as being a 'fringe' sport. Your attitude is what is holding back this wonderful sport. Please log out and don't come back.

 
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