Questions Id Like to Ask Sarah Palin... If She Would Let Someone

American media is obsessed with conflict and 'hot topics' - that kinda explains Palin. She hit the scene hard, inspired a lot of conservative voters, and now shes sliding in popularity now that we've got a better look at her. The bias of the media is piddles compared to this tendency, thats what you're seeing.
 
do you know what the state trooper did? he tazered his 12 year old step son and threatened to kill two government officials...

you dont need to hold a grudge on someone to think that that person should be fired. the commissioner gave him a ten day suspension, unions bitched until it was down to 5, and palin said enough is enough lets get this guy outa here. do you honestly think that that guy should carry a gun and have the responsibilities of a police man.
 
i want to ask obama what he thinks of his pastor, and i want to ask his pastor how he feels being denied to the nation after being his pastor, spiritual advisor, and the man who married obama and receives at least 75% of obamas donations...
 
the officer gave his son a lower charged shock because his son was curious what it was like. bad parenting? yes. but doesn't completely warrant a termination.
 
really? holy shit! i consider myself someone who is "up" on the current issues of the day.... but i have not heard one word about "the death threats"

thats some serious shit right there....
 
In the e-mail sent a few weeks later, Palin encouraged Monegan to testify for a bill that would require 99-year sentences for police officers found guilty of murder. “For police officers to violate the public trust is a grave, grave violation — in my opinion. We have too many examples lately of cops and troopers who violate the public trust DPS has come across as merely turning a blind eye or protecting that officer, seemingly ‘for the good of the brotherhood’.”…..…“He threatened to kill his estranged wife’s parent, refused to be transferred to rural Alaska and continued to disparage Natives in words and tone, he continues to harass and intimidate his ex. — even after being slapped with a restraining order that was lifted when his supervisors intervened,” the e-mail said. “He threatens to always be able to come out on top because he’s ‘got the badge’…”Palin wrote that the Wooten matter had contributed to “the erosion of faith Alaskans should have in their law enforcement officials.”

In 2006, state investigators found Wooten guilty of “a significant pattern of judgment failures,” including using a Taser on his 10-year-old stepson and drinking beer while operating a state trooper vehicle. Wooten was suspended for 10 days as “a last chance to take corrective action.”Speaking Thursday to CNN’s Drew Griffin and Kathleen Johnston, Wooten gave his account of the Taser incident but denied ever drinking while driving.He said that he was a new Taser instructor, and his stepson was asking him about the equipment. “I didn’t shoot him with live, you know, actual live cartridge,”
 
Okay, I'm going to do the big thing and come right out with it: I was wrong. I now support Sarah Palin, because of her Pastor. I mean, hunting moose has never really appealed to me... but hunting witches? That's just awesome.
 
Calm down. There's a big thread in mod discussion about how messed up NSG gets at this point in the election cycle, where we set out the policy that if threads start multiplying they need to be deleted. Consequently, your thread, as well as the "Fuck Republicans" thread, were deleted, because this is the only thread needed in which to talk about the election right now. The policy, basically, is "one at a time". Tomorrow this thread will start to die and it'll start again on something different, from one side or the other, and if you want to start it, be our guest. But don't copy and paste an article (or a link to an article or a youtube video), because that counts (and has always counted) as spam.
 
Apparently the pastor she credited with helping her get elected in Alaska (there's a speech on video about her talking about the guy praying over her and... well to be honest I stopped listening because her voice is annoying) once held a witch hunt.

No not a figurative witch hunt, an ACTUAL witch hunt. Like he found a witch and hunted her. And that's just awesome. It was in Kenya; apparently he travelled to some town where there were a number of traffic accidents, which he blamed on a local fortune teller and amassed a group of 200 people to pretty much run her out of town... eventually there was an incident at her house involving the police, a snake was shot (apparently someone felt it was a demon), and in the aftermath the woman got the hell out of town... so... hallelujah?

So yeah. I'm a fan. That guy rules!
 
well at least palin has had experience being the mayor and actually made some changes instead of obama who has spent 143 days (less than 5 months) as a senator and hasnt yet told us what exactly he is going to "change". its a good idea by him for "change" but i would like to know more about the changes he is going to make besides major tax cuts on poor and middle class and major tax raises on the hard working wealthy
 
Ahem...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/02/palins-church-may-have-sh_n_123205.html

Three months before she was thrust into the national political

spotlight, Gov. Sarah Palin was asked to handle a much smaller task:

addressing the graduating class of commission students at her one-time

church, Wasilla Assembly of God.

Palin's address, much of which was spent reflecting on the work of

the church in which she grew up and was baptized, underscores the

notion that her world view is deeply impacted by religion. In turn, her

remarks raise important questions: mainly, what is Palin's faith and

how exactly has it influenced her policies?

A review of recorded sermons

by Ed Kalnins, the senior pastor of Wasilla Assembly of God since 1999,

offers a provocative and, for some, eyebrow-raising sketch of Palin's

longtime spiritual home.

The church runs a number of ministries providing help to poor

neighborhoods, care for children in need, and general community

services. But Pastor Kalnins has also preached that critics of

President Bush will be banished to hell; questioned whether people who

voted for Sen. John Kerry in 2004 would be accepted to heaven; charged

that the 9/11 terrorist attacks and war in Iraq were part of a war

"contending for your faith;" and said that Jesus "operated from that

position of war mode."

Clearly, however, Palin views the church as the source of an important,

if sometimes politically explosive, message. "Having grown up here, and

having little kids grow up here also, this is such a special, special

place," she told the congregation in June. "What comes from this church

I think has great destiny."
 
That being said, dishing out on a pastoral leader is weaksauce. I bet both Obama and Palin would cite that their funding and support for their churches is mainly for the community it serves, not the message, strange as it may certainly be, that it spreads.

Not that religion should hold any sway in your political decision, being this a country that regaurds our church and state as separated.
 
A few days ago Keith Olbermann pledged to donate 100 dollars for every lie Palin tells, to the Special Olympics (to offset the fact that Palin cut the AK budget for the special Olympics in half, that is, by about 250k in her first year). He just wrote a check for $3700.00.
 
good post.

of course skiminnesota won't respond, because he never responds when someone wrecks his stupid loads of shit he spews.

he just makes more posts and ignores ones like these.

oh and no one changes the subject when people criticize obama. he's fairly easy to defend, as proven by this post.
 
I actually don't know exactly what the VP does.

I do know two things though. the vice president casts the deciding vote in the senate, and serves as president if the current president dies.

I assume sarah palin knew that much when she was asked if she could handle it, because I knew that in 8th grade. so she should have said "no, I couldn't handle it."
 
keep in mind ben, this is not going to you, this is going to "from yours truly"

ok, McCain has a predictable patern of leadership, and going against his own party, fighting an up hill fight all the way...

there is "change" McCain is a "changer"

taxes, we've hashed this out, i agree...

the war, thanks, for admitting he pretty much flip flopped....

he was pretty adimat, "drilling is not the answer" and "drilling wont effect anything"

if it was at one point pointless to drill, why is it an option now?

sex ed... watch for yourself and decide...

the money issue, did you know that 2 of obama's econ advisers ran fanny into the ground? yeah, good people to have advising you..

McCain is notorios for saying "fuck off" to special intrests....

so "from yours truly" this post goes out to YOU, i respect Ben enough to see that we have our differences, as far as YOU go, the respect is not quite there...
 
If it's the case she didn't know what a VP does before she was nominated, wouldn't you expect her to have to pause a second when asked if she would take the job... the essential questions i'd hope she'd have asked herself is 'what exactly does a VP DO? and can I do it?'

I'm pretty certain you can't answer those questions within the blink of an eye.

 
Well she's had two interviews this weekend where she was asked about that...

In one, she said she didn't even blink. So apparently you can answer them without the blink of an eye, even in ignorance.

In the other she said she asked her kids. Who, yknow, obviously know what's best for the country. Actually, can they be VP?

So not only is she inconsistent, BOTH options are bad ones!
 
I was giving her the benefit of the doubt and assuming she made the decision before hand was only asking her girls to make a pseudo-decision...

I mean I know I'm no Maverick but I wouldn't rely on children to make the call on who should be the leader of the country.
 
"ok, McCain has a predictable patern of leadership, and going against his own party, fighting an up hill fight all the way... "

Voted with Bush 90% of the time since the 2006 elections and 95% of the time this year. Way to fight that party, John.

"there is "change" McCain is a "changer"

He's been in Washington for almost 30 years... so no, he's pretty status quo.

"the war, thanks, for admitting he pretty much flip flopped.... "

Who, Obama? He was against the war before it started. He's against it now. Just like everyone else does now.

"sex ed... watch for yourself and decide..."

No, as of now, you're lying. The program only focusses on predator avoidance. So, okay, if you're THAT into leaving kids unprotected from sex offenders, I have to ask: do you have a really big cargo van sitting in your driveway?

"the money issue, did you know that 2 of obama's econ advisers ran fanny into the ground? yeah, good people to have advising you.. "

Did you know that the guy running McCain's campaign lobbied for freddie and fannie? And another campaign manager worked for them for 10 years? Face red yet?

"McCain is notorios for saying "fuck off" to special intrests.... "

Which is why lobbyists run his campaign, right?

So... you... pretty much just regurgitate whatever the republican party or Sean Hannity tell you, huh?

 
The issue of who flip flops more over what is stupid.

Mostly because of our party system, a presidential candidate will ALWAYS reverse on SOME issue or another to gain more sway with the voters in his or her party. Its going to happen as long as our nation stands this divided. Pointing out and whining "Oh he did this" and "she switched sides here" is useless jabbering unless you are willing to see the same and accept it on YOUR SIDE TOO. Complain about it in your camp before criticizing the other.

So there, I'm obviously just as pissed off that Obama has flipped sides as many times as McCain. Unforunatley, our option for doing anything about it is relatively slim. Let it stand that no longer do either of the candidates speak the exact same values as when they got into this race and that we should all be ashamed our country demands we draw this fine a line.

 
AND He's a Muslim...but i digress, Back on track, did you get that as a direct quote from Senator Obama?

 
ok i have 6 hours until i have to be at work... so im not getting into it all now, but i will.

are you deaf?

watch the video, "its the right thing to do" he casually slips that one in at the end... WATCH IT.

 
/clap

you responded! way to go! first by the way in that video obama was chuckling at the sheer idiocy of the mccain campaign's claims. obviously he doesn't want to teach sex ed in kindergarten, 30 seconds of internet research will tell you that.

mccain HAD a record of being a maverick. in 2004 he was against abortion, he explained that overturning Roe would force “women in America to undergo illegal and dangerous operations.”

now he supports a constitutional ban on abortions.

McCain criticized TV preacher Jerry Falwell as “an agent of intolerance” in 2002, but has since decided to seek the support of the man who said Americans “deserved” the 9/11 attacks. (Indeed, McCain has now hired Falwell’s debate coach.)

McCain used to oppose Bush’s tax cuts for the very wealthy, but he reversed course in February.

he said he was for gay marriage on hardball, and then said he was against it later.

he won't back his campaign finance reform proposals anymore, which used to be one of his biggest crusades.

he caved to pressure and is no longer against torture.

oh and here's the best one. his 2000 bid was sandbagged in new hampshire by everyone's favorite scum-sucking piece of shit, karl rove. rove used a tactic called push-polling, polls that spread a message and don't seek to gain any information. a telephone call asked voters whether they would be "more or less likely to vote for john mccain if you knew he had fathered an illegitimate black child." mccain happens to have an adopted indian child who has dark skin, adding some believability to the lie.

he was sunk by very low tricks, but did his sour experiences from 2000 prevent him from resorting to dirty tricks like saying obama wants to teach sex ed to kindergartners or that he referred to sarah palin as a pig? (by the way he finally admitted he knew obama didn't mean that)

fuck no. as it is plain to see, mccain has no problems giving up on his values in pursuing the vote.
 
It wasn't Karl Rove, actually, who started that rumour about McCain having an illegitimate black child... it was someone else. Someone who should probably never be allowed to work in politics again. Because if you sink that low, you're not a campaign official, you're scum. Unfortunately, a few weeks ago, this person was hired.

By the McCain campaign.
 
congrats!

you just made a case against mccain, with out really adressing anyting i said about Obama...

JD take note, he just did what you bitched me out for....

again, congrats, i have never been a fan of McCain, he is better than the alternative IMO...

Mccain kennedy, McCain fingold, Cap and trade... he still gives the republicans "the finger" on a number of issues....
 
NS, IM OUT!

i cant get no love, JD keeps deleting my shit, so im done. PEACE NS... have fun running down the road of socialism / communism!
 
I watched it. It's a hack job. They edited it in and out at a point which would make complete idiots think that he was saying teaching sex ed to kindergartners is the right thing to do.

Here is a link to the bill.
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/Bil...ID=3&DocTypeID=SB&LegId=734&SessionID=3&GA=93

And a link to the article on this topic at factcheck.org:
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/off_base_on_sex_ed.html

And a debate moment from 2004:

Keyes, Oct. 21, 2004:

Well, I had noticed that, in your voting, you had voted, at one point,

that sex education should begin in kindergarten, and you justified it

by saying that it would be "age-appropriate" sex education. [It] made

me wonder just exactly what you think is "age-appropriate."

Obama: We

have a existing law that mandates sex education in the schools. We want

to make sure that it's medically accurate and age-appropriate. Now,

I'll give you an example, because I have a six-year-old daughter and a

three-year-old daughter, and one of the things my wife and I talked to

our daughter about is the possibility of somebody touching them

inappropriately, and what that might mean. And that was included

specifically in the law, so that kindergarteners are able to exercise

some possible protection against abuse, because I have family members

as well as friends who suffered abuse at that age. So, that's the kind

of stuff that I was talking about in that piece of legislation.
 
What? I read his post... I don't see him copying and pasting entire articles from other websites. Just link that shit, dood. Nobody needs to scroll for hours past stuff you just ctrl-a, ctrl-c, ctrl-v'd.
 
"this is the only thread needed in which to talk about the election right now" How is this right? it's an anti Palin thread, why should the anti republican thread be the ONlLY thread to talk about politics.

that is so biased.... That is why Skiminnisota is leaving.
 
It is the only thread needed because it's the only one people are talking about the election in right now. It's not an anti-palin thread, any more than any other political thread in NSG is anti or pro anything; once people start posting in it the original purpose is always lost and it just turns into whoever's right wing arguing against whoever's left wing on whatever they feel like bringing up. I've deleted more liberal-titled threads than conservative ones in the last month, and the thread we happen to end up posting in is pretty random. Yesterday it was the fuck republicans thread by drew which is now deleted. Monday it might be the fuck obama thread made by canuck. Who even knows. the point is you have to keep deleting them or it'll be like it was in 2004, with ten to fifteen threads on the first page of NSG, all talking about the election. Anyway, skiminnesota has had two posts deleted today, both of which involved him copying and pasting a page long article with a bunch of backslashes, dots, and random html code. The second one just contained the bill I then immediately linked to in my next post, which I did without spamming the fuck out of the thread. So get over it, quit whining and if this thread dies, feel free to title the next one whatever you want... as long as you manage to avoid a slur in the title.
 
he doesnt need to say it to know he voted for the energy plan. look at his voting record. that says it for him. and i never said he was muslim. what the fucka re you talking about dude?
 
dude as all your buddies here said, she knew well before hand that she was getting nominated. if she didnt feel she was able she wouldve passed it on for the good of the party, the country, and mccain. instead of trying to disagree with me use your brain numnuts
 
you know its really funny. On political threads like this, you see mainly the same people you see on all political threads
 
Suppose your 14-year-old daughter Willow is brutally raped in her bedroom by an intruder. She becomes pregnant and wants an

abortion. Could you tell the parents of America why you think your child and their children should be forced by law to have their

rapists' babies?

i was in willhoes (her myspace name) class in 6th grade and shes is one hot prostitute

no joke
 
it doesn't matter if she knew 'well in advance' or not... she made that choice 'in the blink of an eye' and prior to haven been informed (regardless of how long ago it was) she didn't know what the vp did.

did i use my brains there?
 
why would she pass up the opportunity? yeah, maybe in a perfect world she would say she's not ready..
 
i watched the video. it was an AWESOME piece of editing. he never says what that "right thing to do" is. as has been covered the kindergarten aspect of his plan was simply predator defense. thats it. nothing in that video says what part of sex ed hes teaching. just ZOMGZ SEX ED FOR 5 YEAR OLDS!
 
BHAHAHAHAHAHA we are want communism because are country does shit for us?! Healthcare? college? mininmum wage? Obamam wants to help us on all of these issue and whereas mcain says owell capitalism weill work its self out and allow us all to prosper while people are getting but fucked by morgatage they apply for.
 
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