Question for a beginning park skier

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lookitskelvin

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I have Armada El Reys 10/11 with marker bindings. I want my bindings to be center mounted, however I went to a ski shop to have my current bindings either remounted or adjusted so this could be done, however even verbally expressing that I want my bindings center mounted, they suggested that it was fine the way they were currently had, they definitely arent center mounted however its not a type 1 setup...

is this normal? I'm a bit clueless, am I missing something?
 
dude go true center tell them u wanna shred the gnar and then thell be "hell yea bruh true center it is!"
 
i wouldn't even worry about adjusting your bindings for now. remounting them is kind of a bitch. just start hitting bigger rails and bigger jumps. if you really want to ride a lot of switch then you should try to get them centrered or get new skies.
 
sometime they cant drill new holes where you want because it will make the ski really weak. i asked my friend(who work at a ski shop) to remount them for dead center and he told me he can't because the ski flex will be horrible and it will probably break my ski...
 
Honestly at this point just focus on getting the basics down. Center mounting isn't going to be a great help or anything right now. I learned how to 3 and slide rails on my 1080s that were mounted like -amillion.

Get a few tricks down on your El Reys this season and then sometime between the end of this season and the beginning of next grab some new skis and center mount em.
 
I don't understand....you made a thread after you asked a tech to mount your skis true center and he basically talked you out of it? What input are you looking for?

The truth is that (I'm assuming here bc I dunno much about the el rey) unless it's a symmetrical ski, it's designed to be mounted back from center, how far back would be effected by a number of different variables. If you plan on riding all mountain as well as park, somewhere between manufacturer's rec. and true center might be perfect for you....ssaaaaaay...-2 or -3. Even if the ski isn't symmetrical, it is still ok to mount true center, but some people (on some skis) say this hurts performance but that's likely due to turn radius, amount of sidecut, etc and will vary from ski to ski.

Basically, some skis perform more optimally back from center, while fully symmetrical skis are designed for center mount. If you're new to park skiing, want to just slide some rails and hit some jumps, you can absolutely do that without center mounting your sticks....shit, it wasn't that long ago that NO ONE rode center mounted.

I'd say first thing is for you to pick up a self-help book about assertiveness. Secondly, walk back into the shop and say, "Hey, I'd like these mounted true center, please. Oh, you think I should leave 'em where they're at? Interesting, but that's not what I want...should I go somewhere else, then? Oh, you'll do it? Great."
 
I only have one pair of true twins but all of my skis except my pow skis are mounted true center. Truth is, I ride switch a lot, so center is where it's at for me. I ride all mountain (with an emphasis on park), and I have absolutely no problem carving up a blue or black run. It also helps because you don't have to lean so far forward.
 
i have my old non-symmetrical k2 fujatives mounted dead center, and i don't see much difference in the performance... I've skied pow and normal runs with them and they work perfectly fine. I don't see all the hussle the techs make about the ski losing its ability, they work differently, but it doesn't mean you cant ski with them, at least you can ski your groomers switch now??

just tell the guy you want em dead center, it doesn't take long and you'll be able to ski with them the next day. And you can always use them as your urban rail skis after you are done using them for park
 
Important question: Do you know where your bindings are mounted right now?

If you don't know, here's how you can find out. Your ski boot should have a little arrow or a line on or near the bottom, indicating the center of the boot. When you click your boot into the binding, you can check that line against the marking chart on the ski (which probably reads something like "center, -1, -2, -3" etc) to see where your bindings are actually mounted.

This thread is pretty helpful for identifying where your skis are mounted: https://www.newschoolers.com/ns/forums/readthread/thread_id/621110/

Here's the deal. If you're just starting to learn how to ride switch, it's not that big a deal if you're not center-mounted. I learned how to ride switch on a pair of Atomic carving skis (non twin-tip of course) mounted somewhere way back on the ass of the ski. Center mount is "cool" these days, and it really does help with high-performance switch skiing, but if you're just learning, it's not necessary!

The real problem here is that remounting will affect the longevity and performance of your skis. To mount bindings you gotta drill holes in your skis, and let's just put it this way: you don't want to drill any more holes in your skis than absolutely necessary. Also, remounting bindings close to where they were mounted before can really be problematic- your skis will snap easier, your bindings might rip out, etc.

Here's what I say. First, find out where you're mounted. If you're within 4 centimeters of true center, I'd say stick with them the way they are. It won't make a big difference learning to ski switch. Trash the hell out of those babies, and then center-mount your next pair.

 
these are my skis, side by side, face opposite to give you a good visual

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Learn to mount your own bindings. Either learn from somebody who knows how (there are a lot of these people out there) or research the hell out of it on the internet and do some tests by mounting old bindings to 2x4s a few times.

You forever won't have to deal with shops techs that don't understand progressive mounting positions, ...and it's pretty fun.
 
They're your skis, not their skis, tell them you want them remounted at the center of the ski. If they say something tell them you don't care, they will remount them just be assertive.
 
It's not going to make a big difference for a beginner, I'd keep it like that and next pair make sure they are mounted center. If you realy want to spend money do what eheath said but it's not realy worth it.
 
Ehh it's not so bad if u know what your doing but I know what ur saying I'd just leave em where they are nbd
 
Thanks for all the responses guys.

From looking at everyones comments, its pretty much split down the middle.

I would make the argument that I should get use to center mounted skis if park is about 80% of what im going to do, right? Might as well get use to it.
 
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