PSA: Usage of the word tr**ny is now officially cancelled

14375931:bertBertson said:
Out of genuine curiosity, can you elaborate on why you don't like the term cis?It's literally just 'straight' but referring to gender instead of sexuality. Certainly nothing to be ashamed of imo, like, the vast majority of the population is cisgendered.

because it's a label that people are assigning to me, that I didn't ask for, and I've yet to hear it genuinely used in a positive way. But I have heard it used to talk down against. "Who brought the cis?"

fuck that.
 
Is cis short for sissy?

cause your talking like a cissy

14376039:snomaster said:
because it's a label that people are assigning to me, that I didn't ask for, and I've yet to hear it genuinely used in a positive way. But I have heard it used to talk down against. "Who brought the cis?"

fuck that.
 
In the ski park … Ok

The way Dave chapels does as a comedian…Ok

As a derogatory hate filled adjitive , people shouldn’t do that it’s not nice

14376047:skeirman said:
do you care if people say tranny?
 
14376052:SavageBiff said:
In the ski park … Ok

The way Dave chapels does as a comedian…Ok

As a derogatory hate filled adjitive , people shouldn’t do that it’s not nice

In everyday conversation though say ones lingua Franca or common day vernacular if you will it, comes off as natural to say tranny in certain given contexts.

for example, “im watching going to go watch some tranny porn”

or

“I fucked a tranny last night”

it really all depends on the context in which the word is used
 
14375765:Biffbarf said:
I think not being cognisant of the context of a word and blatantly deciding to take offense even when none was intended is some weak ass shit. You can apply this logic to literally any clean word that can be used as an insult. Hell, 'slope' was even a disparaging term towards the Vietnamese for quite some time but you'd never know it. People really out here trying to save the world one bs homonym at a time.

Fair enough. I looked into see if using it as short for transgender started before using it as short for transition, and it seems like they both probably started getting used around the same time period. If skateboarders would have started using it after hearing people refer to transgender people by it I'd say it is completely fair to ask for it to stop being used, but that may or may not be the case. Anyway I'm going to try not to use it, even tho saying tranny find sounds a lot better than transition find.
 
14376126:TOAST. said:
Fair enough. I looked into see if using it as short for transgender started before using it as short for transition, and it seems like they both probably started getting used around the same time period. If skateboarders would have started using it after hearing people refer to transgender people by it I'd say it is completely fair to ask for it to stop being used, but that may or may not be the case. Anyway I'm going to try not to use it, even tho saying tranny find sounds a lot better than transition find.

god this is so retar...oh wait can't say that either. Well, thats super ga..oh shit.
 
I can’t agree that whoever used it first is right.

can we not all agree it’s “how” it’s used? Or just use transition….I mean I’ve never once used tranny in skiing, it always felt weird, trans people been around as has the term as long as I’ve been alive.

can someone explain to me the difference between gap and transition?

14376126:TOAST. said:
Fair enough. I looked into see if using it as short for transgender started before using it as short for transition, and it seems like they both probably started getting used around the same time period. If skateboarders would have started using it after hearing people refer to transgender people by it I'd say it is completely fair to ask for it to stop being used, but that may or may not be the case. Anyway I'm going to try not to use it, even tho saying tranny find sounds a lot better than transition find.
 
CALL OUT: DOGFART OR [tag=198199]@TRVP_ANGEL[/tag]

You wanna talk trannies huh??? You think trannies are funny or a joke???

then let’s go

put your money where your mouth is

Which highly influential 80s pornstar is often credited with doing the first transgender scene?

Ill give you two big hints:1) it was scene shot in France with an American male talent, and 2) the pornstar has two first names and has shot over 3000 scenes

Gloves are off. You wanted this front page so this is what you going to have to answer to.
 
14376133:SavageBiff said:
I can’t agree that whoever used it first is right.

can we not all agree it’s “how” it’s used? Or just use transition….I mean I’ve never once used tranny in skiing, it always felt weird, trans people been around as has the term as long as I’ve been alive.

can someone explain to me the difference between gap and transition?

The term's use in this context came from skateboard halfpipes and pools. It describes the area between the last point of horizontal surface to the first point of vertical - or the entire curved area. It has been used this way for 60 years. Now trans people walked in the room and want it to stop.

**This post was edited on Jan 8th 2022 at 7:19:10pm
 
I say your use of tranny is fine, but all won’t see it that way. I say keep on truckin no harm done

14376153:skeirman said:
The term's use in this context came from skateboard halfpipes and pools. It describes the area between the last point of horizontal surface to the first point of vertical - or the entire curved area. It has been used this way for 60 years. Now trans people walked in the room and want it to stop.

**This post was edited on Jan 8th 2022 at 7:19:10pm
 
14376099:Skiblade420 said:
Anyone that is worried about saying tranny is a pussy. Idc quote me you won’t pussy

its not a huge issue cuz I'm sure most people are just using it without even thinking of transgender people... but I wouldn't say it around a transgender person. just common decency. call me a pussy on the internet if you want, but it's good to be aware of what you're saying in general.
 
14376099:Skiblade420 said:
Anyone that is worried about saying tranny is a pussy. Idc quote me you won’t pussy

14376168:Christian_Bale said:
its not a huge issue cuz I'm sure most people are just using it without even thinking of transgender people... but I wouldn't say it around a transgender person. just common decency. call me a pussy on the internet if you want, but it's good to be aware of what you're saying in general.

Nut up and answer my question… it’s open to everyone not just Dogfart now bcuz he hiding

third hint: The pornstar in named in this thread I made

https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/thread/925615/The-vintage-stuff

im basically giving the answer out at this point so if u can’t get it I DONT WANT TO HEAR NOBODY TALK ABOUT TRANNYS ANYMORE
 
14376130:skeirman said:
god this is so retar...oh wait can't say that either. Well, thats super ga..oh shit.

14376133:SavageBiff said:
I can’t agree that whoever used it first is right.

can we not all agree it’s “how” it’s used? Or just use transition….I mean I’ve never once used tranny in skiing, it always felt weird, trans people been around as has the term as long as I’ve been alive.

can someone explain to me the difference between gap and transition?

Maybe I didn't explain it well or may I am just dumb.

What I was meaning is that if skateboarders started using it as a joke because the association with transgender people it wouldn't be cool, but I doubt that's the case.

Biff i agree with you that how it is used is much more important than just what words are used.

I don't think that getting pissed at some for saying tranny find when using it in an action sports setting is justified because of no evidence of the above.
 
14376168:Christian_Bale said:
its not a huge issue cuz I'm sure most people are just using it without even thinking of transgender people... but I wouldn't say it around a transgender person. just common decency. call me a pussy on the internet if you want, but it's good to be aware of what you're saying in general.

Literally an abbreviation for transition. Same thing as calling a down flat down a dfd. If you bend over things so stupid and non offensive we’re gonna keep having to bend more and more into stupidity
 
14375860:Young_patty said:
some people feel the same about the “Mute” grab being offensive because it was invented by a pro skater named Chris Weddle who was deaf. Some people still call mute grab mute grabs but other people have started shifting away to calling them other names, just how it kinda is these days.

Prettt sure Chris Weddle said he didn't mind the name and was okay with people using it
 
Dogfart is king of the simps on here….we gotta big man on campus over here!

[tag=198199]@TRVP_ANGEL[/tag] your crown ? sir
 
14376138:MiIfHunter said:
CALL OUT: DOGFART OR [tag=198199]@TRVP_ANGEL[/tag]

You wanna talk trannies huh??? You think trannies are funny or a joke???

then let’s go

put your money where your mouth is

Which highly influential 80s pornstar is often credited with doing the first transgender scene?

A: Your Mom
 
See, in my POV it’s a two way road, On Twitter it’s not too hard seeing people use cis in a derogatory way. But whenever u use words like “tranny” (in context of transition) members of the lgbt+ go fucking ape shit. That’s what strikes my nerve.

14375931:bertBertson said:
Out of genuine curiosity, can you elaborate on why you don't like the term cis?It's literally just 'straight' but referring to gender instead of sexuality. Certainly nothing to be ashamed of imo, like, the vast majority of the population is cisgendered.
 
correct me if I'm wrong but a tranny find in or out of the park is objectively considered a /GOOD/ thing.

It's not derogatory in a skiing/skating/biking/boarding context, ever.

Also on the cis thing, 7/10 times it's used as a put down. Doesn't mean the word isn't useful/shouldn't exist/can't be used. Just like tranny. Or *** if you smoke cigarettes in the UK. But this isn't a menthol forum.
 
14375613:Addi said:
Y’all sound like my grandparents. Tranny has been used as a slur for a long time and the idea that that slur means something else to you in no way changes what it means to people who are harassed and assaulted for being trans. If you want to be inclusive then it’s important to understand that if there are trans people around you that hear you saying tranny it’s probably associated with trauma. I get that a lot of y’all have never experienced the hate that is directed at trans people but if you are willing and knowingly going to transphobic around me I’m going to knock you the fuck out. That shit is wack.

you sound like a traumatized grandma
 
Disconnected thoughts unrelated/related to this:

1. I can't say I've ever heard my favorite skier say a goddamn word. I don't even think I know what he looks like in real life. (Candide) I think he slumbers in an Audi Q7 like Dracula, and is summoned to fuck up the french alps.

2. Language policing in skiing bums me out. I get that some people can say some crazy shit, but idk... skiing is my place to not think about the crazy world we live in. At the same time, spewing slurs at the ski hill isn't okay. I've also been way more bummed out by boomers spewing Trump BS at me on the lift. (I ski in Idaho)

3. In my early park days there was a park crew guy with "If you lip slide my rail, I'll nose press your box" on his car. It still makes me giggle. I think it was a sticker from Ride.

4. TRANSLATE THIS: "Sick tranny find, bro" or "homie tail pressed the hell out of that tranny"

5. My gay bff loves to call people faggots (when earned) I don't know what to do with this info, but it makes me laugh. He can get away with it, and doesn't look like a typical gay dude, mostly just baffles people.

6. That is all.
 
What I don’t understand is that being offended is subjective and only less than 1% of the population is transgender so why the fuck would I cut out a word just so I can not offend someone. Im a very respectful person but I just think the right to freedom of speech is greater than potentially hurting the feeling of such a small group of ppl. I think its honestly selfish of these ppl to try and remove words. If you are offended by what I say, just tell me, and I wont say it around you. The reason why a lot of ppl act like “bigots” is because you don’t actually help people by giving them everything all the time just because you hurt their feelings. Think about if you raise a child, you can’t give it everything because it will grow up being a pussy and a burden.

**This post was edited on Jan 12th 2022 at 8:54:17am
 
14378228:BLandz said:
What I don’t understand is that being offended is subjective and only less than 1% of the population is transgender so why the fuck would I cut out a word just so I can not offend someone. Im a very respectful person but I just think the right to freedom of speech is greater than potentially hurting the feeling of such a small group of ppl. I think its honestly selfish of these ppl to try and remove words. If you are offended by what I say, just tell me, and I wont say it around you. The reason why a lot of ppl act like “bigots” is because you don’t actually help people by giving them everything all the time just because you hurt their feelings. Think about if you raise a child, you can’t give it everything because it will grow up being a pussy and a burden.

**This post was edited on Jan 12th 2022 at 8:54:17am

Fuck im tryna edit this post again and delete it because I don't even wanna be part of this conversation but its not working. Fuck it idec. This whole thing is dumb asf anyways
 
14376052:SavageBiff said:
In the ski park … Ok

The way Dave chapels does as a comedian…Ok

As a derogatory hate filled adjitive , people shouldn’t do that it’s not nice

This. Context matters. Words have different meanings based on context. That includes where the words are said and by who. I am Chinese. If someone says there's a "chink in the armor", I don't take it as an insult (unless I am wearing a suit of armor in which case it is kind of hilarious).

In the situation where I was skiing with someone who said "hey can you not use the word tranny to describe a transition", I would explain, "hey nothing against you personally, that's just the lingo." If they felt triggered or offended then sure, around them I'd do my best not to use that word. Would I change the way I speak to friends who weren't offended? Maybe, maybe not. But that's the start of change (on a personal, 1:1 level). Not the full on banning on language.
 
14376138:MiIfHunter said:
CALL OUT: DOGFART OR [tag=198199]@TRVP_ANGEL[/tag]

You wanna talk trannies huh??? You think trannies are funny or a joke???

then let’s go

put your money where your mouth is

Which highly influential 80s pornstar is often credited with doing the first transgender scene?

Ill give you two big hints:1) it was scene shot in France with an American male talent, and 2) the pornstar has two first names and has shot over 3000 scenes

Gloves are off. You wanted this front page so this is what you going to have to answer to.

The answer is the legendary Tom Byron

ur a true SIMP OP and nothing but a coward!!!
 
Many people believe it is also time to cancel another popular member of ski culture, Andrew Parry. You may know him from such series as

“Line Traveling Circus.”

For many, Parry is a long-standing and beloved member of skiing’s longest running series.

But for some, he is a sinister figure that represents the creation of vulgar and discriminatory phrases, describing violence against vulnerable and marginalized population groups.

The first example of the aforementioned phrases is the name of a so-called “wizard trick” created by Parry: the “baby crusher.” As many of us may know, babies (also known as infants) are some of the most vulnerable members of the human race. They are small, physically weak, uneducated, and equipped with a soft spot on their head that allows damage to be done with very little effort. Why do we allow such malicious phrases to be invented, portraying violence toward these undeveloped yet lovable creatures?

The second example is yet another one of Parry’s wizard tricks, the “hippy killer.”

The term “hippy” is often synonymous with dirty, stinky, unkempt, pseudo-spiritual bums with poor hygiene, who contribute very little to our civilized society. Despite these shortcomings, hippies are some of the most cherished and influential members of the ski community. Should we allow these threats of violence and death to be so prevalent against them just because of their unnatural dreads, appropriation of rasta lion imagery, and stench of ganja smoke?

I think not.

The third, final, and arguably most offensive example of Parry’s bigotry and lack of regard for persecuted peoples can once again be found in the name of a wizard trick… the “gypsy killer.”

Romani people, more commonly known as “gypsies,” are a race of nomadic people with a widespread global population, the majority of which can be found in Europe and Western Asia. For thousands of years, Romani people have been subject to slavery, exodus, and systematic extermination, among other things.

Why should the vast international population (exceeding 10 million) of Romani people be forced to live with the knowledge that privileged skiers, who consider themselves to be “wizards,” are performing tricks that wish death upon them?

In conclusion, it is time to take a stand. Since we are already editing the vocabulary of freestyle skiing, with the removal of the t-slur (abbreviation for “transition”), many people think that it is also time to recognize the hatred and exclusion that many aspects of skiing stand on, unbeknownst to the blissfully ignorant participants of the activity. It is time to seek justice. The justice that has been denied for so long.

Justice for babies, hippies, and Gypsies.

Excuse me - I meant infants, bums, and Romani people.
 
14379484:garbagemon said:
Many people believe it is also time to cancel another popular member of ski culture, Andrew Parry. You may know him from such series as

“Line Traveling Circus.”

For many, Parry is a long-standing and beloved member of skiing’s longest running series.

But for some, he is a sinister figure that represents the creation of vulgar and discriminatory phrases, describing violence against vulnerable and marginalized population groups.

The first example of the aforementioned phrases is the name of a so-called “wizard trick” created by Parry: the “baby crusher.” As many of us may know, babies (also known as infants) are some of the most vulnerable members of the human race. They are small, physically weak, uneducated, and equipped with a soft spot on their head that allows damage to be done with very little effort. Why do we allow such malicious phrases to be invented, portraying violence toward these undeveloped yet lovable creatures?

The second example is yet another one of Parry’s wizard tricks, the “hippy killer.”

The term “hippy” is often synonymous with dirty, stinky, unkempt, pseudo-spiritual bums with poor hygiene, who contribute very little to our civilized society. Despite these shortcomings, hippies are some of the most cherished and influential members of the ski community. Should we allow these threats of violence and death to be so prevalent against them just because of their unnatural dreads, appropriation of rasta lion imagery, and stench of ganja smoke?

I think not.

The third, final, and arguably most offensive example of Parry’s bigotry and lack of regard for persecuted peoples can once again be found in the name of a wizard trick… the “gypsy killer.”

Romani people, more commonly known as “gypsies,” are a race of nomadic people with a widespread global population, the majority of which can be found in Europe and Western Asia. For thousands of years, Romani people have been subject to slavery, exodus, and systematic extermination, among other things.

Why should the vast international population (exceeding 10 million) of Romani people be forced to live with the knowledge that privileged skiers, who consider themselves to be “wizards,” are performing tricks that wish death upon them?

In conclusion, it is time to take a stand. Since we are already editing the vocabulary of freestyle skiing, with the removal of the t-slur (abbreviation for “transition”), many people think that it is also time to recognize the hatred and exclusion that many aspects of skiing stand on, unbeknownst to the blissfully ignorant participants of the activity. It is time to seek justice. The justice that has been denied for so long.

Justice for babies, hippies, and Gypsies.

Excuse me - I meant infants, bums, and Romani people.

ur mom called and told me to tell u to go outside
 
Let me start off by saying even if it’s situational, that doesn’t change the way someone interprets what you are saying. essentially, if somebody is programmed to only hear offensive things and feel like they are being attacked, they will do that.

Is it everyone’s responsibility to make the world a comfortable place for everyone? Ehhhh. People say “crippled” or “vegetable” a lot, and even though my dad is a quad I don’t really assume they are trying to hurt my feelings. My sister has turnersyndrome but when people say “retarded” I don’t think they are attacking my sister.

But I also am me and not someone else, I can also understand someone who has been bullied and is insecure about stuff and always plays the defensive because they are so accustomed to it.

Is it lame as fuck to have to change your language? Yeah. Should you do it? I mean it would probably be nice. It would be way easier if there was a better word but transition isn’t easy to replace. All I know is if you have ever been in a situation where people say words that can be offensive, it’s always better to just not hear them. Maybe we can just come up with a diff word, we can call them Clayton’s since he’s in my eyes the transition king of street skiing. Kinda like how they started saying weddle because even though it’s not offensive there was just a better name for the trick
 
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