"Pro Choice" is stupid as hell, and Democrats suck at arguing.

No because youre not having sex. Sex - "In biology, sexual reproduction is a process of combining and mixing genetic traits, often resulting in the specialization of organisms into a male or female variety, each known as a sex. Sexual reproduction involves combining specialized cells (gametes) to form offspring that inherit traits from both parents."

If you have sex you better be an adult about it an be prepared for the consequences, sex is reproduction, plain and simple.
 
lololol at your skewed mind to actually BELIEVE that sex is SOLELY for reproduction, ESPECIALLY in this day in age. holy fuck i can't believe you are a part of society. who brainwashed you?
 
This thread gives me a headache. People who think aborting in the first trimester is "killing or taking life" are straight retarded. Like was said by countless individuals, it is more or less a sack of cells. You are not killing a baby. Plus NO ONE should have the right to tell a woman what she can and cannot do with her body.
 
Lets look at it this way

when the dumbass girl gets pregnant because "YOLO", and isnt allowed to get an abortion, her options are: 1. try to find a family to take her crack baby (which they probably wont take because of the probability of some sort of syndrome the baby will have)

2. Coat hanger, stair dive, or alley doctor

3. go ahead and have the baby

If she has the kid, its going to grow up in a shitty house with an irresponsible mother who will never be able to provide a good life for the kid. then that kid ends up taking after the mother and will most likely get pregnant or get some other person pregnant and the whole cycle repeats

Now i know this isnt always the case, but is it not better to be able to prevent stupid shit like this?
 
Are there any cases of legal abortion in the US? ie. Rape, high chance of depressions/ suicidal thoughts... In Australia abortion is illegal except for in special circumstances that state it is detrimental to the woman's health or it is a pregnancy due to rape.
 
Not true in Canada you can have abortions up until the baby crowns. You can litteraly be in labor and just pull the feet out first and suffocate it.
 
The names for both sides are fucking stupid. Democrats are called pro-choice, but they don't give a shit about choice outside of the context of abortion (the New York soda law for example). And Republicans call themselves pro-life, but they don't actually give a shit about life as is evidenced by their support of the drone missile strikes.

More accurate names would be pro-lifebeginsatconception and pro-lifebeginsatbirth, but then everybody would realize how trivial the argument is, and that's not what the two major parties want. They deliberately keep us distracted with minor issues like gay marriage and abortion so that people don't realize they are essentially same party, creating the facade of a two party system while the people never actually have any choice at all.
 
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good luck finding a single doctor or pregnant woman in canada who would do that. just cause it's legal doesn't mean it happens. you're fucking retarded buddy.
 
you can't find a doctor in canada who will do it therefore it's irrelevant. only a fucking sicko would do something like that, ie. Sarah Catt
 
you don't honestly believe that doctor who was trained in obstetrics (the branch of medicine that deals with the care of women during pregnancy, childbirth, and the recuperative period following delivery) is going to BIRTH a baby and then suffocate it. really. you believe that. truthfully. be honest with me man. don't lie. you truly believe that.

i have no other words.
 
yeah well that's why pro-lifers call it homicide instead of feticide, because they don't know what the fuck they're talking about and they imagine some kind of sick operation where babies get yanked out of women by their legs and suffocated even though that has never fucking happened. it seems the only people capable of even dreaming up such a scenario are those opposed to abortion anyways, so it's not going to happen.
 
i forgot to address this. the laws of suicide developed from religious belief, like the claim that only God has the right to call the shots when a person will die. sorry, but God doesn't determine when someone decides to take their own life. honestly if you try to fight the remains of a family over the govt for the reason of suicide, well that'd be some shirt storm eh?
 
no im just saying that he was not retarded because he stated a fact... read a post once in awhile before you type
 
Exactly. I can't fucking stand the thought of men telling woman what to do with their bodies. Pro Choice all the way.
 
All of you pro-death supporters are a bunch of intellectually incompetent fools!

1.

The child after soon after 8 weeks has a fully functioning nervous

system that can and does experience its own existence as well as respond

to stimuli, even up to the point of self-defense during abortion,

showing that it is very well aware of all three the child's life, the

threat to it's life, and it's impending death.

2. The child is

constituted by a DNA structure that is 100% unique to it's self,

separate from the father and mother, it is there for not apart of the

woman's body, thus an abortion/murder is an act upon a 100% unique

individual human being and not an act upon a woman's own personal body.

3. The child meets all scientific qualifications to qualify as A. A life form B. A unique individual. C. A conscious/sentient Human being.

The

temporary conjoined union between the mother and child, may be

unfortunate for the woman if unwanted, however it is nothing more or

less then that, a conjoined unusual between to individuals with human

rights. Such an unfortunate status is terribly insignificant when

weighed next to the evil of murdering a unique individual human being

for nothing more than convenience or desire.

The location of a

human being does not negate their human rights, not in a house with a

mouse, not in a box with a fox, and not in a womb with a brain-vac. My body my right is a red herring fallacy, it is entirely unapplicable to a chld who is 100% unique to its self.

The only choice a human has a right to in such situations where two individuals exist with human rights is whether to interact or not to interact with that individual. (Adoption)

All arguments you have are fallacious, misrepresented or negated science, and your own personal beliefs/opinion

The desire for an easy fix or way out of responsibility does not out weigh the human right to live.

All major logic, valid and solid, argues against abortion; abortion is indeed the murder of a conscious 100% unique human child, regardless of any perosnal belifes you all might have.

Self defense from death or fatal injury is the only truly known loop hole.

P.S. Your fallacious logic blows chunks and none of you have valid arguments:

legal abortion must be allowed to avoid the consequences of illegal abortion:

"I don't think that abortions are right from a moral standpoint. I just don't believe it's the government's job to interfere with a woman's choice to do so."

< "I dont think murder is right from a moral standpoint, but government shouldn't interfere fear with a woman's right to murder her children; the same as illegal drugs, right?">

"Q: Should mothers who have complications in pregnancy be called murders?"

"A: No of course not they didn't choose to have the complication, you choose to go get your baby aborted/killed."

"while the state has an interest in protecting the fetus "at some point", this interest cannot override that of the pregnant woman because: "the right to security of the person of a pregnant woman was infringed more than was required to achieve the objective of protecting the fetus, and the means were not reasonable."

There is no scientific data that supports that at conception that their is a conscious being existing.

< First this is a fallacy: the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. Second: there is indeed a substantial amount of data showing levels cognition and awareness or reaction to stimuli with the fetal child. Your argument is false and it is made from ignorance>.

"If you don't like abortion, don't get one."

< Fallacy: "If you dont like murder then don't do it.">

"You are clearly confusing life with "potential" or "possible" life"

<

No you are confused, the fetus meet at scientific requirement to be

considered human life, it is not a potential, it just is; it has the

potential to become more, and it has the human right to do so, while

none have the right to take human rights way from any individual human

being, period.>

When you run out of shit to say, lets

trivialize birth, life, and murder, to justify abortion in response to

the fact of murder.

< Great tactic from ignorance!>

Whether you believe in pro life or pro choice is your PERSONAL BELIEF and should not be forced upon other people.

 
while abortion is a really horrible thing in morals, it has it's place. of course it gets abused just like medicinal marijuana, but can't say i'm against it. and gay marriage, i couldn't care less. don't see why people do.that said, what REALLY pisses me off is that all my "friends" on facebook post all fucking day long when a republican says something stupid about women/womens bodies, or a homophobic comment is said. that's all they care about, the world must come to a halt when something is said and every liberal shall gather in an angry lynch mob as retribution.

BUT...WE'RE GOING INTO WAR. Not a SINGLE FUCKING WORD from anyone of those liberals. Is it because they feel absolutely retarded like I do for voting for Obama 5 years ago? Or do they just follow him into the flame

that's why I hate liberals. It's like the free market. When a republican says something extraordinarily ignorant, they will be voted out or lose credibility. No big deal about it really. But when it comes to real important issues that matter like war and the economy, they have no answer

yes, liberals are stupid. I don't view myself as conservative, but my hate for ignorant liberals makes me think otherwise
 
double postI forgot, liberals fear questioning Obama because they will be revealed as a racist bigot as well.

I saw someone on here say "if killing a few cells was illegal everyone would be guilty" or something. That's why the left is so furiously against sonograms/mammograms before abortion--because people will realize that it is a LOT more than just a few cells. Like I said above, I see no reason to outlaw abortion but the left wants unrestricted abortions at any term. And a lot are done pretty late when it is a lot more than just a few cells...

Casey Anthony is my hero
 
12511429:DingoSean said:
I'm not even going to touch this pathetic shit thread.

And nearly a decade later, I stand by this.

I would love to abort this thread entirely.

**This post was edited on Jul 12th 2021 at 10:24:12pm
 
14303530:DirtYStylE said:
This argument is super relevant right now. Those same people that were pro life are anti vax. How ironic

False equivalence, plenty of people are getting mega fucked and/or dying from covid vaxes and no one wants to talk about it.
 
14303605:_Garagely_ said:
False equivalence, plenty of people are getting mega fucked and/or dying from covid vaxes and no one wants to talk about it.

A small ammount of isolated case isn’t tons of people getting mega fucked and dying. “Getting mega fucked” most of the time is just a strong immune response and can happen with any vaccine. MRNA, live vaccines, dead vaccines, or subunits in NYS you learn that in 8th or 9th grade bio depending on when you take it lmao
 
14303605:_Garagely_ said:
False equivalence, plenty of people are getting mega fucked and/or dying from covid vaxes and no one wants to talk about it.

How many people have faced issues because of the vax?

Now, how many people have died because of actual COVID?

Which of the two numbers is bigger?

Here's a chair, sit down.

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Ya know what, I'm just gonna say it, I'm pro covid. Old people piss me off. The fewer of those fuckers I have to stand behind at self-checkout the better.
 
14303605:_Garagely_ said:
False equivalence, plenty of people are getting mega fucked and/or dying from covid vaxes and no one wants to talk about it.

More Americans have died from covid than WW1, WW2, and Vietnam combined.

3 individuals passed from a blood clot in the J&J vaccine.

Which one is the bigger number here dumbfuck?
 
The young and healthy are getting sacrificed for the old and weak and it's the wrong course of action.

How does this logic work? Young people are being sacrificed to save old people because the vaccine is killing them but old people take the same vaccine and suddenly it is not deadly anymore? This is a new one.

Willful stupidity will cause the end times. Idiocracy wasn't a comedy it was a documentary from the future.

**This post was edited on Jul 14th 2021 at 4:27:41pm
 
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