thats even worse. theyve been around for 15 years and i have never heard of them much less seen one of there skis, much less seen any one with any reputation ever use one. you can stop trying to convince me, and tell me all about ratio this and word of mouth that and blah blah blah, becuase basically, no one cares, no one here has them, is going to get them and evven if they say that they are interested, in the end they wont actualyy pay the rediculous price for them, so you dont have to try and rep your friends company, because you wouldnt be doing this if you didnt know the peopel involved with the company. im right, your wrong. end of story.