Price of IKON vs epic pass

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Is IKON pricing their pass so high to reduce traffic? They raised the base price $60 this year. I guess they have more mountains, arguably better locations, and there's inflation but fuggggg

IKON $1159

IKON Base $829

Epic $909

Epic local $676
 
More people buy the epic pass, so its cheaper (1 million vs 2.3 million in 2022) VR has always priced the epic pass as low as possible, they cut the price a couple years ago by like $150 so not surprising its going up.

as any person with 2 brain cells would know, inflation has caused everything to be more expensive.

**This post was edited on Mar 16th 2023 at 4:23:17pm
 
14520369:muffMan. said:
Fuck mega passes, all the homies hate mega passes

there are a lot of people who's home mountain is on a mega pass, not much people can do about that
 
14520372:eheath said:
there are a lot of people who's home mountain is on a mega pass, not much people can do about that

Where? You got options everywhere, you got a basin and Loveland in CO, and you can buy single mountain passes like copper and winter park sells em. And SLC resorts seem to be limited days with mega passes, but let me know if I’m wrong.

I’m just living somewhere that’s got a decent local hill, beats any big resort imo
 
14520373:muffMan. said:
Where? You got options everywhere, you got a basin and Loveland in CO, and you can buy single mountain passes like copper and winter park sells em. And SLC resorts seem to be limited days with mega passes, but let me know if I’m wrong.

I’m just living somewhere that’s got a decent local hill, beats any big resort imo

Palisades.
 
14520373:muffMan. said:
Where? You got options everywhere, you got a basin and Loveland in CO, and you can buy single mountain passes like copper and winter park sells em. And SLC resorts seem to be limited days with mega passes, but let me know if I’m wrong.

I’m just living somewhere that’s got a decent local hill, beats any big resort imo

There are tons of places people live where their home mountain/closest mountain is an Ikon pass or Epic pass resort, and just "going somewhere else" is not always the right option, whether its a longer drive, worse resort, etc

For example, I live in park city so I buy an Epic pass, could I ski at Deer Valley? For $2500+ no thanks. Every other resort is an hour + drive with shitty traffic and a more expensive pass. I'll ski Alta whenever I eventually move back to SLC, but where I live, buying an Epic pass is really the only tolerable option.

I'm not going to go through the list of world class resorts on both passes, but its not reasonable to say that you can completely avoid buying a mega pass when its your favorite and/or home mountain. Like you gonna live around whistler and not ski one of the best resorts in NA because you dont wanna buy a (cheap) mega pass? Thats just silly.
 
still a sick deal if you use it a lot, especially if you take some ski trips throughout the season - plenty of single mountain season passes that are more expensive than that
 
14520371:eheath said:
More people buy the epic pass, so its cheaper (1 million vs 2.3 million in 2022) VR has always priced the epic pass as low as possible, they cut the price a couple years ago by like $150 so not surprising its going up.

as any person with 2 brain cells would know, inflation has caused everything to be more expensive.

**This post was edited on Mar 16th 2023 at 4:23:17pm

Eheath coming in hot with the data. Good shit

14520373:muffMan. said:
Where? You got options everywhere, you got a basin and Loveland in CO, and you can buy single mountain passes like copper and winter park sells em. And SLC resorts seem to be limited days with mega passes, but let me know if I’m wrong.

I’m just living somewhere that’s got a decent local hill, beats any big resort imo

Any mountain owned by alterra uses ikon as an option for their season pass. That's a pretty big list. Yes they allow passes solely for their mountains but adding an extra $300 gets you the whole deal for trips and such. You do you but most people won't willingly pay more for when they go on trips. Option of spending an extra $300 to have unlimited lift tickets for trips or option of being core and buying window prices lol.
 
14520380:eheath said:
There are tons of places people live where their home mountain/closest mountain is an Ikon pass or Epic pass resort, and just "going somewhere else" is not always the right option, whether its a longer drive, worse resort, etc

For example, I live in park city so I buy an Epic pass, could I ski at Deer Valley? For $2500+ no thanks. Every other resort is an hour + drive with shitty traffic and a more expensive pass. I'll ski Alta whenever I eventually move back to SLC, but where I live, buying an Epic pass is really the only tolerable option.

I'm not going to go through the list of world class resorts on both passes, but its not reasonable to say that you can completely avoid buying a mega pass when its your favorite and/or home mountain. Like you gonna live around whistler and not ski one of the best resorts in NA because you dont wanna buy a (cheap) mega pass? Thats just silly.

Damn that’s fucked, didn’t realize they don’t even sell a park city pass specific to PC. Like I hope they do something with specific resorts where you pay like 600 for just PC and some days at neighboring resorts.

But sadly a mega pass is what brings in most of the money, which sucks for us. And checked out a whistler pass and it’s the same price as epic, which is also a no brainer
 
14520512:muffMan. said:
Damn that’s fucked, didn’t realize they don’t even sell a park city pass specific to PC. Like I hope they do something with specific resorts where you pay like 600 for just PC and some days at neighboring resorts.

But sadly a mega pass is what brings in most of the money, which sucks for us. And checked out a whistler pass and it’s the same price as epic, which is also a no brainer

they have some area specific passes and age specific passes too, but a PC pass was like 800+ for an adult before vail came in so its actually cheaper.
 
14520534:eheath said:
they have some area specific passes and age specific passes too, but a PC pass was like 800+ for an adult before vail came in so its actually cheaper.

why haven't i seen u at PCMR this year
 
They should just not sell full season passes or make it even and odd days for any 'locals' no more unlimited people who fly across the country shouldn't have their experience ruined because the instagram look at me people that live nearby always ski at the same exact times when it snows and try to one up each other on who can wait outside for the chairlift the longest in the morning.

They do 2 runs and go back home once the snow gets a couple bumps in it.

Epic would be epic if it was capped at 7 days.
 
14521564:PeppermillReno said:
They should just not sell full season passes or make it even and odd days for any 'locals' no more unlimited people who fly across the country shouldn't have their experience ruined because the instagram look at me people that live nearby always ski at the same exact times when it snows and try to one up each other on who can wait outside for the chairlift the longest in the morning.

They do 2 runs and go back home once the snow gets a couple bumps in it.

Epic would be epic if it was capped at 7 days.

dumbest run on sentence I have ever read.
 
14521564:PeppermillReno said:
They should just not sell full season passes or make it even and odd days for any 'locals' no more unlimited people who fly across the country shouldn't have their experience ruined because the instagram look at me people that live nearby always ski at the same exact times when it snows and try to one up each other on who can wait outside for the chairlift the longest in the morning.

They do 2 runs and go back home once the snow gets a couple bumps in it.

Epic would be epic if it was capped at 7 days.

I can't tell if you're trolling or if you're actually braindead.
 
14521564:PeppermillReno said:
They should just not sell full season passes or make it even and odd days for any 'locals' no more unlimited people who fly across the country shouldn't have their experience ruined because the instagram look at me people that live nearby always ski at the same exact times when it snows and try to one up each other on who can wait outside for the chairlift the longest in the morning.

They do 2 runs and go back home once the snow gets a couple bumps in it.

Epic would be epic if it was capped at 7 days.

I'm losing my mind
 
14521588:bogust said:
I'm losing my mind

Homie is legit a gaper, he thinks he's better than everyone else because he travels to ski and only skis 10 days a year.
 
14521564:PeppermillReno said:
They should just not sell full season passes or make it even and odd days for any 'locals' no more unlimited people who fly across the country shouldn't have their experience ruined because the instagram look at me people that live nearby always ski at the same exact times when it snows and try to one up each other on who can wait outside for the chairlift the longest in the morning.

They do 2 runs and go back home once the snow gets a couple bumps in it.

Epic would be epic if it was capped at 7 days.

Garbage take right here.
 
14521586:eheath said:
I can't tell if you're trolling or if you're actually braindead.

I'm not trolling at all.

Its locals who clog these hills and they don't even support jobs running up big tabs at the bar or staying in a slopeside hotel. Now its a new breed of local who works remote and displaced someone who worked an actual job in that community.

I went to JHMR the day they opened the tram Saturday a week after thanksgiving. 2 hours before lifts spun I got in the maze and was 5th box. All instagram look at me locals. Place was deserted by 11am once these idiots took their 2 runs and went back to their trusty homes not to be seen again until the next 12" reporting.

Actually got amazingly better the next 3 days there was only 2-3 forecasted but it was windy and good.

I can't believe people sit in traffic for hours after skiing Alta when I went there same trip I was at the hotel in 15 minutes. That isn't tourists its locals. Give half of them the odd days half the even ones.
 
14521589:eheath said:
Homie is legit a gaper, he thinks he's better than everyone else because he travels to ski and only skis 10 days a year.

Well you can name call and hide behind your moderator status but I will be skiing powder in Taos for 5 days this weekend.

Might bring the clubs and play after since it'll be light until 7.

Yeah its so cool to ski the same day as everyone else and get there to stand in the cold for 3 hours so you can all take 1 run before its tracked out and go home at 10 super core local lyphe...
 
14521673:SteezyYeeter said:
yeah it is lmao. go to copper bruh.

Don’t know why you’d torture yourself with I-70 to go ski copper if you lived in breck. I’d get a epic pass if I was blessed to live in breck
 
14521667:PeppermillReno said:
I'm not trolling at all.

Its locals who clog these hills and they don't even support jobs running up big tabs at the bar or staying in a slopeside hotel. Now its a new breed of local who works remote and displaced someone who worked an actual job in that community.

I went to JHMR the day they opened the tram Saturday a week after thanksgiving. 2 hours before lifts spun I got in the maze and was 5th box. All instagram look at me locals. Place was deserted by 11am once these idiots took their 2 runs and went back to their trusty homes not to be seen again until the next 12" reporting.

Actually got amazingly better the next 3 days there was only 2-3 forecasted but it was windy and good.

I can't believe people sit in traffic for hours after skiing Alta when I went there same trip I was at the hotel in 15 minutes. That isn't tourists its locals. Give half of them the odd days half the even ones.

You are incredibly stupid and live in a fantasy, imagine thinking other people shouldn't do something you do, fucking twat.
 
14521667:PeppermillReno said:
I'm not trolling at all.

Its locals who clog these hills and they don't even support jobs running up big tabs at the bar or staying in a slopeside hotel. Now its a new breed of local who works remote and displaced someone who worked an actual job in that community.

I went to JHMR the day they opened the tram Saturday a week after thanksgiving. 2 hours before lifts spun I got in the maze and was 5th box. All instagram look at me locals. Place was deserted by 11am once these idiots took their 2 runs and went back to their trusty homes not to be seen again until the next 12" reporting.

Actually got amazingly better the next 3 days there was only 2-3 forecasted but it was windy and good.

I can't believe people sit in traffic for hours after skiing Alta when I went there same trip I was at the hotel in 15 minutes. That isn't tourists its locals. Give half of them the odd days half the even ones.

just about as local as massachusetters are to vermont
 
14521689:eheath said:
Wow I wasted my 60k post on peppermills dumbass, I'm disappointed in myself.

I don't buy the mega passes dude I buy passes to mountains in NH that are less crowded now than they were in the 90s because they aren't on mega passes.

Everyone wants to blame these things for the crowds but when the shoe is on the other foot some locals don't stop and think 'man me and all these other people here at 6am waiting for the chairlift sure are ruining someones vacation.'

I went to SLC and skiied alta and snowbird Christmas break 3 times around 20 years ago. It was great and no crowds or fucking around parking or traffic. Why can't some of the selfish people who live there realize there are too many of them and just agree to have passes that only work every odd day or every even day? That way you'd never have overcrowding or shitty lines or full lots.

At least my plan is better than spending a few billion on a fucking gondola. Maybe build some gondolas to the back country terrain that people trigger avalanches on every time it snows and spread people out those 2 resorts haven't changed or added anything in 2 decades they are 100% identical to how they were early 2000s.
 
14521698:PeppermillReno said:
I don't buy the mega passes dude I buy passes to mountains in NH that are less crowded now than they were in the 90s because they aren't on mega passes.

Everyone wants to blame these things for the crowds but when the shoe is on the other foot some locals don't stop and think 'man me and all these other people here at 6am waiting for the chairlift sure are ruining someones vacation.'

I went to SLC and skiied alta and snowbird Christmas break 3 times around 20 years ago. It was great and no crowds or fucking around parking or traffic. Why can't some of the selfish people who live there realize there are too many of them and just agree to have passes that only work every odd day or every even day? That way you'd never have overcrowding or shitty lines or full lots.

At least my plan is better than spending a few billion on a fucking gondola. Maybe build some gondolas to the back country terrain that people trigger avalanches on every time it snows and spread people out those 2 resorts haven't changed or added anything in 2 decades they are 100% identical to how they were early 2000s.

I don't see the problem if "all the locals leave by 11"...

Also you know that you can go on a vacation to a resort that isn't on a mega pass, right?
 
14521715:TOAST. said:
I don't see the problem if "all the locals leave by 11"...

Also you know that you can go on a vacation to a resort that isn't on a mega pass, right?

Yeah.

Ive had the mountain collective a bunch it was great before Ikon.

Now its fine you just have to be careful of Ikonic crowding. Haven't been back to Whistler since Vail bought it went the 2 years prior.
 
14521685:eheath said:
You are incredibly stupid and live in a fantasy, imagine thinking other people shouldn't do something you do, fucking twat.
14521689:eheath said:
Wow I wasted my 60k post on peppermills dumbass, I'm disappointed in myself.

Lol Have you never complained about the level of traffic in lcc or at the resorts and blamed it on mega passes and tourists? Isn't it like a slc local pasttime or something to complain about that stuff?
 
14521747:Turd__Authority said:
Lol Have you never complained about the level of traffic in lcc or at the resorts and blamed it on mega passes and tourists? Isn't it like a slc local pasttime or something to complain about that stuff?

yeah but im not an entitled idiot who thinks locals shouldnt be allowed to ski, i still buy an epic pass to my local resort, doesnt mean theyre "good" y'all will literally say anything to try and give me shit, how about you realize this fucking clown just said locals shouldnt be allowed to buy a pass to their home resort. but ya im in the wrong, cool dude.
 
I don't want to get banned for interacting with you, and this doesn't count as associating...

Just saying , monthly bedroom rent in resort towns like park City are in excess of $1500 per month. The entitlement of $20,000 per year in rent and a Vail resort pass , is absurd for anyone who works for their money...

14521764:eheath said:
yeah but im not an entitled idiot who thinks locals shouldnt be allowed to ski, i still buy an epic pass to my local resort, doesnt mean theyre "good" y'all will literally say anything to try and give me shit, how about you realize this fucking clown just said locals shouldnt be allowed to buy a pass to their home resort. but ya im in the wrong, cool dude.
 
14520371:eheath said:
More people buy the epic pass, so its cheaper (1 million vs 2.3 million in 2022) VR has always priced the epic pass as low as possible, they cut the price a couple years ago by like $150 so not surprising its going up.

as any person with 2 brain cells would know, inflation has caused everything to be more expensive.

**This post was edited on Mar 16th 2023 at 4:23:17pm

hahaha yes totally only inflation-related cost increase guys, absolutely nothing to do with a duopoly deciding they can collectively increase prices and make more money. haha nothing to see here.

(I am kidding, there has been record inflation, but this will happen someday soon as more and more mountains end up on this pass)
 
14521781:thankagaper said:
I don't want to get banned for interacting with you, and this doesn't count as associating...

Just saying , monthly bedroom rent in resort towns like park City are in excess of $1500 per month. The entitlement of $20,000 per year in rent and a Vail resort pass , is absurd for anyone who works for their money...

i totally agree with you here, housing in PC is fucked and its a huge priority for the city, vail has been making moves to help too cause they know they need the employees. so many people drive from SLC/Heber to work in PC.

im the opposite of most people, i live in PC and work in SLC, im lucky because ive been renting from a friend for years, i could tell you many stories of people i know being prices out, some even completely just kicked out so the landlord can rent nightly or sell their house.

Nobody our age can afford a house in PC, but its not like that was different 15 years ago.
 
14521784:BigPurpleSkiSuit said:
hahaha yes totally only inflation-related cost increase guys, absolutely nothing to do with a duopoly deciding they can collectively increase prices and make more money. haha nothing to see here.

(I am kidding, there has been record inflation, but this will happen someday soon as more and more mountains end up on this pass)

yeah price fixing isn't taken lightly, there are certainly safe guards in place to stop this kind of thing (in the USA) not that our government is perfect, but monopolies are pretty frowned upon among companies with public investment.

I would argue the IKON pass existing has created more competition for VR and was likely why they dropped the pass price a couple years ago.
 
I was implying no one would spend that money to ski a mega resort, but I guess you are.

I prefer no lift lines, powder in the afternoons , and nothing that rhymes with fail ...

14521785:eheath said:
i totally agree with you here, housing in PC is fucked and its a huge priority for the city, vail has been making moves to help too cause they know they need the employees. so many people drive from SLC/Heber to work in PC.

im the opposite of most people, i live in PC and work in SLC, im lucky because ive been renting from a friend for years, i could tell you many stories of people i know being prices out, some even completely just kicked out so the landlord can rent nightly or sell their house.

Nobody our age can afford a house in PC, but its not like that was different 15 years ago.
 
14521788:thankagaper said:
I was implying no one would spend that money to ski a mega resort, but I guess you are.

I prefer no lift lines, powder in the afternoons , and nothing that rhymes with fail ...

i wish that place existed in Utah, but it does not.
 
14521786:eheath said:
yeah price fixing isn't taken lightly, there are certainly safe guards in place to stop this kind of thing (in the USA) not that our government is perfect, but monopolies are pretty frowned upon among companies with public investment.

I would argue the IKON pass existing has created more competition for VR and was likely why they dropped the pass price a couple years ago.

I agree, and Alterra is by far the lesser of the two evils here from a local perspective.
 
14521794:BigPurpleSkiSuit said:
I agree, and Alterra is by far the lesser of the two evils here from a local perspective.

my boss skis at snowbasin and he said its noticeably more busy this year with the IKON pass vs Epic pass last year, I simply disagree, theyre both evil.
 
14521788:thankagaper said:
I was implying no one would spend that money to ski a mega resort, but I guess you are.

I prefer no lift lines, powder in the afternoons , and nothing that rhymes with fail ...

You ski at abay right?
 
14521796:eheath said:
my boss skis at snowbasin and he said its noticeably more busy this year with the IKON pass vs Epic pass last year, I simply disagree, theyre both evil.

they are both evil, but at least Alterra doesn't seem to want to buy your mountain and make it Alterra Inc. with Alterra Safety Patrol and centralized HR. If Vail bought Snowbird and then tried to deck it out with yellow jackets, there would be a major local uprising. We all hate Ikon, but it is definitely better than being bought by Vail.
 
14521799:BigPurpleSkiSuit said:
they are both evil, but at least Alterra doesn't seem to want to buy your mountain and make it Alterra Inc. with Alterra Safety Patrol and centralized HR. If Vail bought Snowbird and then tried to deck it out with yellow jackets, there would be a major local uprising. We all hate Ikon, but it is definitely better than being bought by Vail.

the yellow jacket things seems like its in the past, at least at PC. i rarely see them outside of homerun (green run from the top, i usually avoid anyway) otherwise theyre just around at the base

**This post was edited on Mar 21st 2023 at 1:50:19am
 
Just go skiing. Who gives a shit anyways. Find a mountain with snow and slide down it. No need to argue about one pass over another. People say to buy a copper pass, but not an ikon pass which literally does the same thing in terms of access and besides, that ski resort gets fucked during peak season because of its layout. Just ski at the hill you like the most, even the major conglomerates will implode at some point. The only real reason ski resorts were built in the first place apart from a joy of skiing is the sales and exhorbant cash flow from real estate like in Vail, Aspen, Telluride, or Whistler for example. Well, seems as though most of that development has come and gone leading to huge budget crunches and low employment. Skied vail the other day just because it was on my pass and half the dining areas were closed because the mountain extended operating time by 30 minutes. Could also be the international employee visas expiring which usually happens by now, but really support every ski hill. It might sound cringe to say this, but even the big conglomerates who heavily advertise in spreading the sport to new people, are beginning to develop huge cracks. That’s not to say though that supporting the niche hills brings a greater self satisfaction. Would much rather buy a food item from them than some place like vail as there’s more pride in the work done. Vail resorts has just decided to make everyone of their hills very similar to one another, but to eheaths overarching claim, get a pass for the major hill nearest to you. Does the environment favors and does your body favors. No need to get up so early, no need to be in a rush exposing yourself to stress on a day that should be fun. Just ski goddamnt!
 
14521893:Farmville420 said:
Also the shortest drive from Denver

It's been weird this year, good days have been swamped by iKon people getting their five days, not enough snow to close the Denver side of Loveland pass. Hoping for some late season dumps, but even this week is looking lackluster...
 
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