Pretty lights are douches

One word: remix. Plus, pretty lights doesn't sell their music, so techincally they didn't "steal" it. Rappers use full songs from other rap artists and put it online and aparently they aren't douches.
 
I'd say a remix would be a song that's actually been mixed, because he changed absolutely nothing except adding another loop in the background. but that's true, it's the fact that everyone around my area thinks their like the holy fathers and the most original group to ever come out.
 
Pretty lights added a beat to it, made it pretty different, sure it sounds the same but on paper it probably looks alot different.
 
Pretty Lights just sampled it. Keep your dick in your pants for christ sakes.
 
I hate sampling, I lost all respect for Kanye (had very little), Jason DeRulo, B.O.B., it pisses me off so much when that happens.
 
The whole basis of being a good dj is sampling well and creating a beat to go with the sample. Find me one hip hop artist or dj or producer that doesn't sample. Even vinyl breaks are sampled from something
 
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Doesn't bother me either. Pretty lights threw in the vocals which turned good to orgasmic.

Besides, they're not even the only ones that have sampled that clip.

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using a two bar loop, does not constitute "stealing that song". it is called a sample. second, Pretty Lights is one person.
 
producers usually don't sample, they produce. At least that's what I try to do when I mix my own stuff
 
It's very very different. It's more similar than some other samples, but there was a lot of chopping and remixing that went on.

I would be willing to bet that the guys who got sampled are even stoked on it. It's a compliment for another established artist to take your song and re-do it through their lens. And if I made a track and pretty lights sampled it but kept it as intact as that, I would read it as "wow, obviously whoever did this remix thought my song was pretty dope to begin with".

Johnny Cash covered NIN's "Hurt" and Trent Reznor was so honored that he stopped playing that song because he said Johnny did it better. It's art, it's not elementary school kids pointing fingers saying "He's copying me, he's copying me!!!"
 
Watch this movie if you haven't. I find that it address is very well.

RiP: A Remix Manifesto from Laurent LaSalle on Vimeo.
 
I think sampling in music that is being mass produced and sold is wrong, but if you are not looking for profit I see no wrong in remix songs, take Hathbanger for example.
 
Sampling can have good and bad aspects to it. Personally, I dislike sampling when a song is taken and then changed very slightly in order to make a new song, i.e. using the chorus of a different song in your own song. However, when a sample is chopped and cut into something that sounds very different, it can be really cool. A good example of that is Chiddy Bang's "Opposite of Adults", which samples parts of MGMT's "Kids" but makes a completely different melody/beat out of it.
 
if you listen to the album versions of the songs, its only Derek. Cory was his live drummer, but I'm pretty sure that he has a new drummer now, as of two or three shows ago. but still, all the composition and production is one person.
 
yeah he's right here.

What pissed me off was that there was a song in EDIAS that was such a ripoff of Battling Go-Go Yubari in Downtown LA by ediT. Not sampled at all, just ripped off.
 
actually ive done a bit of research: Nightmares on wax sampled 2 artists; Sonny Stitt, on Private Number for the tune, & Etta James on Somethings' got a hold on me for the lyrics, Pretty lights either did the same or copied Nightmares, either way, by your standards they're Both Douches
 
I joined simply to set you straight nasty because you’re way off on calling sampling theft.

George, aka DJ EASE aka Nightmares on Wax didn’t write You Wish - that guitar riff at the intro including baseline is was originally produced in the late 60’s by Booker T and performed by William Bell for Stax Records.

Pretty Lights and practically every hip hop producer worth their salt have sampled and used that loop. Nightmares on Wax also sampled that loop and verlaid some fender Rhodes on it.

What you’re calling a stolen song is a somewhat uninspired example of what is basically the backbone of modern music production since the production of the sampler and the very essence of hip hop music.

Now if you are looking for stolen music look up the Black Eyed Peas.... Theyce been sued more times than almost any modern music act for copyright infringement
 
8488759:blackoutbill said:
Actually I retract the statement that it is the whole basis. Sampling is just a huge part of hip hop
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Actually you’re right, look up Kool Herc’s Magic Circle technique
 
8494081:Uncle.Badness said:
I think sampling in music that is being mass produced and sold is wrong, but if you are not looking for profit I see no wrong in remix songs, take Hathbanger for example.
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There’s nothing wrong with it if samples are cleared, the original artist will then receive royalties based on their work being used.
 
8492029:KiDCuDi said:
rza is such a douche bag, seriously. wu tang sucks because they stole this song!!!!1
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In regards to hip hop artists and rappers, a lot of times the artist has no idea that the song is heavily sampled. So you can't be mad at them. Here's how it will go down. The artist will be in the studio working on their next album. A producer will come into the studio with them and show them a catalog of beats that they've produced. They will listen to the tracks, the artist will hear one and be like 'Hot damn. This track is fire.'

The artist will then buy the beat from him. This is where the producer *should* disclose what samples were used on the track, so that way the artist's record label can clear it. They set up a royalty payout that gives money to the original creator and they get permission to use it.

But what happens if the producer doesn't disclose that he used samples in the first place? Sometimes producers will sample the shit out of a song or altogether steal a beat and not credit the original source. They sell the beat, claim it as their own and say no samples were used. Hopefully, someone at the record label has heard the original and is able to catch it before they start selling the song.. But that doesn't always happen.

Sometimes nobody will have a damn clue that a sample was used. (Except the producer who took the money and ran). They album goes platinum and then the only way they find out is by getting court papers in the mail that they are getting sued for millions of dollars. Which is cold af but this happens all the time.

So I just wanted you guys to see the other side of it.
 
As mentioned earlier though. Sampling and remixing is a major part of the music industry. Hip hop started by people just looping soul and funk music and then rapping over it. Some of the most notable film scores and soundtracks are basically riffs taken from composers like Bach and Mozart. It's in all areas of music ALOT more than you'd realize. I love trance music and I think like 95% of the industry is pretty much remixes lol.

Most artists are totally flattered when another artist wants to sample one of their tracks. In order to even use the sample (and sell it commercially) the artist has to get permission and clearance from the original artist (or their record label). Plus, the original artist gets PAID and makes tons of money from it.

( *sometimes* an artist like the rolling stones don't want someone like Kanye remixing their track. But it's tough shit, because the Rolling Stones don't even own the right to their own songs anymore and their record label owns the song now. And since Kanye just paid them fat.. the Rolling Stone's record label may say.. Fuck you Mcjagger. We don't care what you think. I think this acutally happened to the rolling stones, Phil Collins, or someone else. Sometimes that happens. But more often than not, the artist receives a lot of money for the other artist to remix/sample his track, so he doesn't care.)

So anyways, hopefully my rant sheds some light on the music industry. I was heavily involved in the music industry for a while. I had a whole bunch of people rip my shit over the years.

Immortal Technique *stole* one of my tracks and used it on an album. Honestly, I was pissed when I found out. I wasn't even mentioned anywhere on the album. When I confronted him, he had no idea that I created the beat and come to find out a shady producer claimed he authored the beat and sold it to him. Immortal Technique's music is sick, so I let it slide and life when on. I could've had a lawsuit and would've won, but it was just not worth it for me.

Another guy took my track and it ended up being a #1 song in Nepal. I didn't find out until like a year or two later, when some random person from Nepal asked me why I was trying to *steal* a beat from a popular song in Nepal and claim it as mine. Dude. I was fuming lol. Especially when I heard the song and found it wasn't even remixed. They literally jacked my song, 100%. Not even a hi-hat thrown in or anything lol

**This post was edited on Mar 4th 2018 at 1:38:37pm
 
topic:.nasty said:
listen to "you wish" by nightmares on wax here:

then listen to "finally moving" by pretty lights here:

I know DJ's mix music, but pretty lights just straight up stole that song. what faggots.
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You're a faggot
 
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