ryan I have a ton of respect for what you do. But I don't see the need for all the hating. The hill can't be made for the minority. You, jason, pete, and a few others are the minority. Nick won't make any money off a park made for four people. This is why creativity is the most important aspect of skiing, when we all can't have a park built to our own specs. I recognize I'm not on the same level as you guys, but I can appreciate a good jump when I ride one. I'm not going to argue for lips being one way or another, but we should have both. And as for pulling a switch ten, steve jarzinski pulled one off of sweet spot last winter no problem. And the lip was at it's mellowest point. I'm not denying you in any way at all, your an ill skier, and keep it up, but just keep in mind there are a ton of people besides you. And as for you being more local... That's cool dude I respect that too. But don't call the want for mellow transitions a step backwards. If you ride jumps or look at big jumps in comps, they are all pretty mellow.... And the landings all match the lips, so if a steep landing can't be built, a steep lip shouldn't happen either. That's just being safe. Let's stop the hating man... Multiple inputs are better than one.