I Sold my 172 celebs and bought 182 celebs, yes people 182s, heres a picture, and my new rossi exp 1 boots, all pretty and nice, compared to my old rossis....
the toe piece on my rossis: notice the hole through the bottom and the tops of the nails gone..
this would be one of my liners, ive out grown my boots so much that my big toe has worn a hole through the liner, yea my boots didnt keep any warmth or water out..