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14092832:JoeF2661 said:
Was thinking about some pivot 18 or 14 bit dropping 400 bones on a pair of bindings will take some strategic planning. Honestly I don't even know if a need a binding with anything higher than a 18 din.
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You can find sth2 16's for sub 200. More durable than a pivot 14 too
 
14092832:JoeF2661 said:
Was thinking about some pivot 18 or 14 bit dropping 400 bones on a pair of bindings will take some strategic planning. Honestly I don't even know if a need a binding with anything higher than a 18 din.
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18's will be fine, if you run a 9 to 10 DIN. Hope you don't destroy a knee!

14's are for 7 to 8 DIN.
 
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Lolllllllllllllllllllllll rip my wallet. Something to do when there's basically only groomers open with like one super fat flat box and one tube rail for the "park build" they have set up.
 
14093235:BigPurpleSkiSuit said:
Everyone likes pivots and STHs but I love my attack 13s
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Fuck attacks real jiggas ride on 18s with 15 din for rails

Cause #prerelease

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14093273:DrZoidberg said:
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Lolllllllllllllllllllllll rip my wallet. Something to do when there's basically only groomers open with like one super fat flat box and one tube rail for the "park build" they have set up.
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Rip that shit up! Sweet!
 
14093273:DrZoidberg said:
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Lolllllllllllllllllllllll rip my wallet. Something to do when there's basically only groomers open with like one super fat flat box and one tube rail for the "park build" they have set up.
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Oh shit!
 
Pivot 18s. You ever been so broke you can't even afford top ramen.

Worth it.

**This post was edited on Jan 7th 2020 at 9:24:13pm
 
Aren’t attack 16s used primarily by comp skiers throwing triples? I feel like most people just get the highest din binding for dick measuring and chalk it up to “durability”
 
14094568:Young_IPMC said:
Aren’t attack 16s used primarily by comp skiers throwing triples? I feel like most people just get the highest din binding for dick measuring and chalk it up to “durability”
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Attacks ski soooo nice, I'd suggest tryin them before you just lump them as comp jock gear. I ski 16's because I'm a fatass and I'd rather have my din be 10 of 16 instead of 10 of 13. It may or may not matter though.
 
14094575:Biffbarf said:
Attacks ski soooo nice, I'd suggest tryin them before you just lump them as comp jock gear. I ski 16's because I'm a fatass and I'd rather have my din be 10 of 16 instead of 10 of 13. It may or may not matter though.
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It does not. There is no need for "cushion", bindings work the same at any DIN they are designed for, it's a fallacy that you need to be in the middle of the range.
 
I’m waiting on a brake for attack 11s. I’m just saying that the 16+ din bindings are meant to be used by people who fuckin slam on their landings and really need that extra metal. Most NSers are like 150 lbs soaking wet, aren’t spinning over 900 on max 40 footers, and buy 16-18 din bindings.

IDK what’s happening with my reply button

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14094572:CatdickBojangles said:
If it helps they are $180 right now on Evo.
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Not for the 115 mm brake. Thanks though doggie. Anywho I try to keep my money as local as possible so I don't feel to bad for dropping 400 at my local shop and I got a free mount out of it.
 
Ordered a new touring setup, Blizzard Zero G 105 with Kingpins and G3 skins. Should be a good upgrade from my current Line SFB with Shift setup for touring.

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And this hoodie:

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And last but not least a season pass for this summers biking season at Hafjell, may just need to save up a bit for a new DH bike now to....
 
14094577:Monsieur_Patate said:
It does not. There is no need for "cushion", bindings work the same at any DIN they are designed for, it's a fallacy that you need to be in the middle of the range.
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All bindings will "work" at any set point, but they work best around mid range. If you want the risk of F-ing up your legs, go for it.
 
14093273:DrZoidberg said:
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Lolllllllllllllllllllllll rip my wallet. Something to do when there's basically only groomers open with like one super fat flat box and one tube rail for the "park build" they have set up.
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Dr. my eyes have seen the years. Same basic skis up in here. Work those puppies! You too can be a Boomer!

 
14094821:DominatorJacques said:
All bindings will "work" at any set point, but they work best around mid range. If you want the risk of F-ing up your legs, go for it.
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No, they do not. The meaning behind a DIN setting is to release when a pressure threshold is met, and I can guarantee you that modern bindings will release at specs no matter which DIN setting you set, be it the lowest, highest, or in the middle, it will simply release at specs. (given that there is no defect).

If you don't believe me or trust the engineers to know their shit, any shop can actually do a release test to prove it to you, if you know anyone in a shop, have them test a couple of bindings and you'll see for yourself.
 
14094821:DominatorJacques said:
All bindings will "work" at any set point, but they work best around mid range. If you want the risk of F-ing up your legs, go for it.
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No. DIN is DIN is DIN. The only benefit to not being on the outer edges of a din range is not running out of adjustment as your weight, fitness level, agressiveness, etc changes. If you ski at 10 and 10 is the highest setting it will release at that value assuming all other variables are held constant. You may run into durability issues as lower din bindings are typically lighter construction. If someone actually skis hard enough and is strong and heavy enough to safely release at 18 there is nothing unsafe with using an 18 din binding instead of an even higher din racing binding (I don't even know if those exist anymore tho). Bindings are engineered and calibrated to represent the din that is stated by the indicator and manufacturing process checks are put in place to ensure that companies meet this specification. This is also why binding design changes are made so infrequently, there is a lot of engineering and legal investment made to ensure this spec is met.

https://www.din.de/en/about-standards/din-standards

You don't risk injury by using a binding at the ends of its adjustment. That is BS. Any shop tech that tells someone otherwise doesn't know what they are talking about. Shop techs are not professional engineers.

/endrant
 
14094568:Young_IPMC said:
Aren’t attack 16s used primarily by comp skiers throwing triples? I feel like most people just get the highest din binding for dick measuring and chalk it up to “durability”
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I’m switching up to p18s for durability. It’s undeniable that the metal pivots will outlast an attack 13. Plus on big mountain lines I crank the dins to about 13
 
14094607:Mar-O said:
Ordered a new touring setup, Blizzard Zero G 105 with Kingpins and G3 skins. Should be a good upgrade from my current Line SFB with Shift setup for touring.

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I d buy the kingpins now probably as well. shops are throwing them out like hot garbage on this side of the pond. 240 communist euros for the 10s is almost worth it. you still have to carry around 5-10 extra pins just in case they feel like popping out.

not a huge fan of all the g3 skins tbh. too heavy, bad glue, don t glide well and the grip + durability is just alright. but I know how hard is to get the good skins in north america. montanas, pomocas or contour hybrids are just so far ahead of the competition in every aspect it s just mindblowing.
 
14094908:No.Quarter said:
No. DIN is DIN is DIN. The only benefit to not being on the outer edges of a din range is not running out of adjustment as your weight, fitness level, agressiveness, etc changes. If you ski at 10 and 10 is the highest setting it will release at that value assuming all other variables are held constant. You may run into durability issues as lower din bindings are typically lighter construction. If someone actually skis hard enough and is strong and heavy enough to safely release at 18 there is nothing unsafe with using an 18 din binding instead of an even higher din racing binding (I don't even know if those exist anymore tho). Bindings are engineered and calibrated to represent the din that is stated by the indicator and manufacturing process checks are put in place to ensure that companies meet this specification. This is also why binding design changes are made so infrequently, there is a lot of engineering and legal investment made to ensure this spec is met.

https://www.din.de/en/about-standards/din-standards

You don't risk injury by using a binding at the ends of its adjustment. That is BS. Any shop tech that tells someone otherwise doesn't know what they are talking about. Shop techs are not professional engineers.

/endrant
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Wow! You guys workin' me. An engineer told be they work "best" at the mid point.
 
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I’ve seen your big mountain pics. At your age/weight, a type II skier should have a din of about 8-8.5. With pivots, they actually give you about 0.5 more in certain releases, so you’d want 7.5-8. That puts you just below or at the bottom of the din on the p18. It’s a bit of a waste, you know? :P
 
14094986:Young_IPMC said:
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I’ve seen your big mountain pics. At your age/weight, a type II skier should have a din of about 8-8.5. With pivots, they actually give you about 0.5 more in certain releases, so you’d want 7.5-8. That puts you just below or at the bottom of the din on the p18. It’s a bit of a waste, you know? :P
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no.

don't tell people online what their dins should be

stop
 
[tag=195891]@No.Quarter[/tag]

We know how he skis. I used a calculator to give him a basic estimate.

No doubt he should visit a shop and have his bindings adjusted if he needs to crank the din all the way up for a 40 degree powder run

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14094986:Young_IPMC said:
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I’ve seen your big mountain pics. At your age/weight, a type II skier should have a din of about 8-8.5. With pivots, they actually give you about 0.5 more in certain releases, so you’d want 7.5-8. That puts you just below or at the bottom of the din on the p18. It’s a bit of a waste, you know? :P
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14094989:No.Quarter said:
no.

don't tell people online what their dins should be

stop
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14094992:Young_IPMC said:
[tag=195891]@No.Quarter[/tag]

We know how he skis. I used a calculator to give him a basic estimate.
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Not this again...
 
14094983:DominatorJacques said:
Wow! You guys workin' me. An engineer told be they work "best" at the mid point.
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They're all right, DIN is DIN. 10 is 10, 12 is 12, etc.

That middle of the range myth used to be somewhat true 30-40 years ago on old binding technology but it's come a long way. It's obvious enough when you do ASTM testing on two completely different bindings (with different DIN ranges) to the same spec.
 
14094986:Young_IPMC said:
[tag=223116]@HYP3R_REAL1TY[/tag]

I’ve seen your big mountain pics. At your age/weight, a type II skier should have a din of about 8-8.5. With pivots, they actually give you about 0.5 more in certain releases, so you’d want 7.5-8. That puts you just below or at the bottom of the din on the p18. It’s a bit of a waste, you know? :P
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I appreciate your attempt at humour at but I’m a type 1 skier thank you very much
 
[tag=223116]@HYP3R_REAL1TY[/tag]

My mistake. I recommend the marker comp 20.0, which I always ride at 19.5 to avoid maxing it out. I’ve never once prereleased going from pizza to french fries, so I think it’ll last till at least 2050
 
14093273:DrZoidberg said:
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Lolllllllllllllllllllllll rip my wallet. Something to do when there's basically only groomers open with like one super fat flat box and one tube rail for the "park build" they have set up.
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I would still hike those two features before I ever clip these on my feet
 
14096913:CatdickBojangles said:
You probably can't ski for shit.
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Want some clips?

Real talk tho,

I raced for my first 3 years in high school and got tired of the lack of creativity, that why I would rather hike rails and sweat my ass off learning something new.
 
14096916:evan.schu said:
Want some clips?

Real talk tho,

I raced for my first 3 years in high school and got tired of the lack of creativity, that why I would rather hike rails and sweat my ass off learning something new.
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Nah I'm just fucking with you. I got tired of skiing thats why I exclusive sled dog in the winter and soap shoe in the summer so I know the feeling.
 
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