Possible sighting of the Higgs Boson?

Different place if that's if your thinking of the ones that went faster than the speed of light. They just sent their data to CERN to go over it and confirm.
 
They have known about the neutrino for more than 50 years.

As far as the Higgs Boson is concerned, if they found it that is a HUGE leap in quantum physics, but I don't understand how people assume that it is the last thing to be discovered. Even if it is found and confirmed, there is still the question of what makes the fundamental particles, and thats where you get into string and super-string theory.
 


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Not just photons, all quantons (particles, photons, even small atoms or molecules depending on the double slit apparatus you have) are affected by the mere act of observation. The end of the video explains an example of it.

Assuming that it is even possible to understand all of physics from quantum to cosmic (and that is a hell of an assumption), our species is millions of years away from even being close.
 
So basically this particle is what allows all other particles to exist? Did I read that right?
 
Particles that you probably know of, electrons, protons, and neutrons are made up of smaller fundamental particles. The Higgs Boson is the theoretical particle that would give the larger particles mass. The photon (particle that makes up light) for example would not have a higgs boson because it is massless.
 
^ Macroscopic objects exhibit wave functions as well as elementary

particles. They just usually are so incoherent you can't look at them as

a one vector object. But experiments are improving exponentially and

with the right coaxing, larger and large systems are displaying quantum

effects.

Also the Higgs field (along with other theoretical fields), not the

Higgs particle, give other bosons mass. The Higgs particle is a zero

spin boson produced from the interaction. Photons (and gluons) do not have mass because they maintain gauge symmetry, they do not even interact with the Higgs Field at all.

We're far less than millions years away from a unifying theory of

physics as well (for our universe at least). That is a very large amount

of time, and to underestimate the advancement of our race to that

degree is naive.
 
It isn't naive at all. We may be close to what we think is a grand unifying theory, but even after that there is so much more to know. If you think that we are the only species looking for life harboring planets through our telescopes you are nuts. Chances are that there are many many planets like ours with beings far more evolved than us, there are probably some that can even see our planet in detail, however, it appears as if none of them have found a way to utilize wormhole travel, considering that we haven't been visited.

Then there is the issue of what happened before the start of plank time, and most astronomers are convinced that there is no way we will ever know.

After that you still have extra dimensions, how singularities work, possible methods of faster than light speed travel, dark matter, dark energy, the magnetic monopole, whether the universe is infinite is the spacial dimensions, parallel universes, the multiverse or possibly even omniverse. Not to mention whatever comes after string theory, or super string theory, or super dooper string theory.

Mankind will almost certainly go extinct before we know all of the laws of physics, if such knowledge is even possible.
 
Youtube and the Science channel have given you too much sensationalism about this stuff. Most of the topics you threw out are stated wrong or completely irrelevant which leads me to believe you're not really formally studying anything in this field (if you are, I apologize for the assumption). Physics is a conquerable subject. While you're busy watching What The Bleep do we Know?! and going through worm holes with Morgan Freeman there are people everyday saying what can be done, with real math to back it up. (Don't get me wrong, great shows. But more entertainment than real science.) There (*likely*) will always be new knowledge to obtain, such is the nature of time. But a theory to "understand all of physics from quantum to cosmic" will be developed, probably in your life time. Cheers.
 
Sorry, that came off as kind of arrogant. That's not me, just been a long week. I think it's really cool that you're intrigued by this stuff, not often you find other people that are. Keep investigating man, there is so much to learn.
 
Actually, I am going to be a highschool physics teacher. My major is broad field science w/ physics. It is a major offered here at Marquette's college of education where instead of a full physics major it has a little bit more physics than a minor, plus through bio 3, chem 1 & 2 and Organic chemistry, and calc 1,2, and 3. Almost all of my electives are education classes.

I feel the same way about most of those shows, especially anything with Michio. He is incredibly smart but his shows are so dumbed down and fictionalized its crazy.

I know a lot of the stuff I was talking about was far fetched, and the alien thing was my brain on an all nighter. But there are aspects to physics and the universe as a whole that the human brain simply will never be able to wrap itself around. The concept of infinity itself is impossible to fully appreciate, as is the infinitely small, and that stuff is simple newtonian physics and calculus.

The thing is that the really crazy ones I mentioned are actually possibilities. Wormholes are not disallowed by the laws of physics, and that would allow you to get from point A to point B faster than light by taking a shortcut

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I dont remember if it was you or somebody else who was saying that quantum effects take place in macroscopic objects, it made me laugh cause I remember our professor last year made us calculate the wavelength of a baseball being pitched at record speed and it was some insanely small number.

bumpin this thread in celebration of the higgs
 
I wish you luck, that is truly an important job! The worm hole thing is fine, it's not that impossible of a concept and they are pretty well understood. The amount of energy required to control them is the practical difficulty. Yeah, I remember doing the same calculation. But I wasn't just talking about the psi^2 function. I also meant quantum phenomenon such as EPR paradox and entanglement. Entaglement was first theorized less than 80 years ago, then experimentally practiced on systems approximately a bohr radius in size less than 40 years ago, then just this year two diamonds 3mm in size were entangled. In just 40 years we have increased that size approximately 7 orders of magnitude to a size once deemed impossible due to decoherence. That increase is about equivalent to the increase from one meter to the diameter of the earth. I just believe to put hypothetical limits on our future advancement is a discredit to advancements of the past is all.
 
Yes, the act of measuring determines small particles locations and we dont know why, the higgs bozon shows some light on this subject and why shits so wierd on the small scale.
 
Well, said man i like and agree with all you said, and i will probably be doing the same job as you in the future,

"considering that we haven't been visited."

^ this is think can be debated dude becuase i have seen some fucked up shit for real, and i know most people are ignorant untill they see something and then no one believes them either, but with all the online footage and personal sightings and encounters i am 80% sure we have been visited at some point or we are being visited currently. Its actually fucked because before my sighting/encounter i was the most skeptical person out haha, but it has really changed my views on shit man.

but other than alien contact (what you were saying) a hypothesis of mine is that the beings that are here are not in fact extra terrestrial, they are future humans coming back in time to observe, gather resources etc. but thats my theory haha

mad respect to everyone in this thread has been super sick so far.
 
Tommorow could be the day. I have heard from people involved that ATLAS doesn't quite have the 5 sigma they wanted for a discovery. I also know that they wanted both CMS and ATLAS to verify it independently.

However they are flying in the original team who predicted the particle way back in the day. Plus the tevatron teams probably know, and their announcment might have been them throwing in their contribution to this piece of history. So basically I think this is gonna be it. I think tommorow they announce that the higgs boson exists!

although it would be more exciting if they didn't know.

 
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