Please help with my FKS heel problem!!!!

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anxju

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well ok so it isnt actually my problem, but my bro's. but hes at college right now, (yes, hes back at syracuse). so he got rossi ghettos and bought a pair of fks 155's off of an unamed person on ns (i wont say his name).

so i went to the local ski shop to get our skis mounted, i got suspects with px12 jibs, his rossis with fks 155s. i went and picked em up today and the guy at the shop told me that one of the heels for the fkses are releasing too easily.

so i brought em home and tested em out. it was a struggle but i fit into my brother's boots, and tried to click in. all of the following goes for both skis

this is what they look like resting on the binding

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so i pressed down, and im no FKexpert, but it didnt seem right. this is what they looked like

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closer up:

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then (outside), i tested the releasing early part. on each ski, i can eject it just using my leg, not putting all my bodyweight forward or anything. before it releases, it seems to get more horizontal, like this. my boot heel comes up a bit. i tried to do tipstands, and was able to do them successfully 4 out of 6 times. one time i double ejected, one time i single ejected. the other times i tipstanded and stood there for a couple seconds, no ejections. notice the difference from the resting still one.

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when i clicked the binding without the boot, it looks like this

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when i clicked the boot in, i can force it to be more vertical like the above pic.

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compared to:

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and again, im a huge noob when it comes to binders, but is this really supposed to happen? i turned the binding 180 just with one hand using not much strength at all

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please help!!!! we need to ski the weekend after thanksgiving!!!

 
oh by the way, the din is at 7 and my bro is 5'8, 160. im 5'10-5'11, 160-165ish. so were similar in weight.

so unless i have superhuman strength, theres something wrong here
 
it should not be like that, something is very wrong with those bindingsi would say it looks like the boot is too thick but that is not likely at allhuh, i'm stumped, but yes, that is messed upcan you easily pre-release if you force the binding all the way to the closed position with the boot in it?
 
its hard to tell from those pics, but it just looks like the forward pressure is set wrong. When you click the boot in, the small white tab at the back of the heel piece should be lined up with the two marks on the plastic. The end of the small white tab that is...
 
check the forward pressure, that sometimes fucks shit up....

also, the boot might be too wide at the heel for the "curve" of the heel piece, so you might just have to pull it up.

do you still eject super easily when the binding has been pulled up?
 
just looking at the one side picture where your holding the heelpiece, it vaguely looks like there is too much forward pressure.
 
the problem seems to be that the bar under the heel isn't liftingwhen the boot is in the binding and it's closed the bar should be about a centimeter above the plastic plate, yours seems to stay there even when you push the binding closedthat might have to do with the binding moving up or down on those two little bearings near the turntable assemblycheck those out and see if you can somehow get the bar to lift with the boot in it
 
actually yeah, it looks like thatjust adjust the forward pressure so that the back of the white tab lines up with the two little black tabs that stick up off the bottom plastic plate, see if that makes any difference
 
Check the forward pressure. Could be way too much on the one that's faulty.

And find a better shop. They shouldn't have let those go out the door like that.
 
here is the white tab thing, im not sure what end of the plastic youre talking about

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and here is the front:

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ok so yeah these look off. and being the gigantic binder noob and never owning a pair of fkses before, how do i adjust the foward pressure?

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i took a pic of itso the red circled things are the two tabs on the plasticyou want the back of the white piece (one with the arrows) to line up with those tabsit's not in that pic because the boot is not in the binding, but it's just to show you the idea
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on the arms that hold the heelpiece. it's a posidrive setup, and make sure they are even
 
ok so i adjusted the foward pressure and now theyre all set, but they still eject really easily :(. and when i lift up on my heel my heel still goes like a centimeter up and the heelpiece still becomes less vertical, sorta like its half ejecting before it fully ejects

any solutions?
 
^nah that part usually doesnt touch the base

this is a pretty weird situation. Im trying to think of what could be wrong now, since you said youve adjust forward pressure correctly but its still releasing like that? hmm
 
yeah it seems like when im lifting my heel, the heelpiece rotates back, until that bar does touch the base. thats where it stops, then when i put some more pressure on, it ejects

and THANKS to everyone!!! mad k for all of you
 
i used to have that same issue, it was a long time ago but i took them in to a race shop and the guy put a new spring in the heel piece and in the toe piece and it stayed vertical like its supposed to. so i would suggest that
 
i am almost 100% certain that its a forward pressure issue....
take it to a tech that its insured...if u do it ur way, if u break urself or ur binding ur fucked...
 
im gonna agree with the forward pressure issue

and def find a better shop. they shouldnt have given you the skis like that. if you hurt yourself you could def sue the shit outta them for that, they were clearing a pair of bindings as ok, that def arent.
 
no no the shop said the binding had failed is tests

and i fixed the forward pressure issue, didnt i? the thing slides back to the 2 tabs now and is nice and vertical, it just doesnt stay that way
 
can you video record it? and throw it on youtube or something? that would make it alot easier to understand.
 
I think I might have a solution. You probably won't like but...

I tested my fks to see if they 180d like yours and they don't. I took them apart to bend brakes. Then I pushed on the spring under the white tab and it came out. I noticed my bindings 180d now. I put the spring back in and it didn't 180. So you'll have to unmount your binding dissemble them and then check under the white tab if there's a spring. If there isn't just go to a shop and ask for one.
 
Some FKS models have a piece that doesn't let the donkey dick slap around or spin very freely. You'll notice it holds the two forward pressure telescopic rods in place as well.

I'm thinking you either have dead springs (unlikely) or a forward pressure issue.

Your forward pressure indicator can be off very easily. That white piece (indicator) will slide under the actual pivot heel. When you lock your boot down it pinches your forward pressure indicator, preventing it from sliding toward the ski tail and giving an accurate reading. This is the most likely scenario. Spin the binding completely around and remove the (white) indicator from underneath the metal pivot plate (should happen around 90 degrees. Then try unscrewing those screws next to the donkey dick - with boot locked in. Loosen them till you either have the forward pressure right or that heel piece locks completely down. Then try your tip stand.

If you're still not having any luck, you may indeed need to repack the springs. Pretty rare that both springs go out at the same time. Kind of like both headlights going out at the same time. Might wanna get rid of em then. I'll take em off your hands.

Push that DIN up more if you're doing tip stands, that's why you've got FKS 15s. Otherwise I've got some Solly z12s I'll trade you straight up for!
 
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