Photo of the Day and Splash Page Discussion

13007210:cydwhit said:
Guess I just need to post some more photos then....
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I like it!

Doesn't harm the photos ability to get into the yearbook at all though, so you're still perfectly fine in the running.
 
13006358:Boax said:
Why no login box on the splash page any more? Logging in quickly is more important to me than viewing the POTD, but if there is a login box on the splash page then that's something else to look at so that's what I currently bookmark. If there is to be no login box on the splash page then I'll change my bookmark tohttps://www.newschoolers.com/home meaning no more POTD to look at unless I go out of my way to visit the splash page.
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Bug. Addressed, go check it.

13006361:Walter.1337 said:
Doug, My photo of Noah was uploaded with dimensions of 2000px by 3000px, and was still skipped for "Bad Picture Width" that day:

Noah Albaladejo' ... (+63, -0): SKIPPED - Bad Picture width (2000)

It sounded like there possibly was some change recently that the 1000px minimum isn't the actual minimum? Or portrait images need to have a different size?

**This post was edited on May 27th 2014 at 10:19:55am
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Bug, also addressed and in the photo upload page the text has been updated.

Its now 1000px minimum for horizontal, and 500px minimum for Vertical.
 
13009057:Walter.1337 said:
You rule, Doug. Thanks for clearing that up.
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Hey man honestly I feel really bad for how much of a disaster that splash page we built was.

Sorry Photographers - we didn't treat you right this year.
 
So the splash page,

- I like how you reverted back to the stationary full photo.

- I think there should be a login box at the top, for people who have multiple accounts (company vs personal) (like the photo mousseau posted above)

Here is my biggest qualm.

To view the VOTD, Article of the Day, and whatever the other box is you have to scroll down aka most people just click the picture and don't scroll.

Personally, I think the videos and articles gain a lot more attention when they're in eye-sight on the splash page. If not, most people don't go out of their way to look in the news section, yet if they see something right away (key word) they're more likely to take a gander.

Maybe move them to the top? or to the side in a vertical line?
 
This new Splash Page is sooooooooooooooooo much better. Only thing I would change now is bringing back the ability to log in from it.
 
13010328:errrka said:
So the splash page,

- I like how you reverted back to the stationary full photo.

- I think there should be a login box at the top, for people who have multiple accounts (company vs personal) (like the photo mousseau posted above)

Here is my biggest qualm.

To view the VOTD, Article of the Day, and whatever the other box is you have to scroll down aka most people just click the picture and don't scroll.

Personally, I think the videos and articles gain a lot more attention when they're in eye-sight on the splash page. If not, most people don't go out of their way to look in the news section, yet if they see something right away (key word) they're more likely to take a gander.

Maybe move them to the top? or to the side in a vertical line?
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Yeah we see that too. The vertical one is banger for those, but a lot of the photos have been horizontal. On a big monitor its pretty good, but I think we're going to play with it being overlaid on the photo at the bottom and see how it looks.

You can log in, that was a bug. Refresh your cache.

13010335:ThaLorax said:
This new Splash Page is sooooooooooooooooo much better. Only thing I would change now is bringing back the ability to log in from it.
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Refresh your cache.
 
Much better! I don't think you even need to put VOTD on the Splash page. I like how clean it is right now. No need to ad clutter. Feature them on the main site like Pinkbike does. As long as there's a sick picture to get people to click, then the next thing they should see is the VOTD/article of the day, etc.
 
13010354:ThaLorax said:
Much better! I don't think you even need to put VOTD on the Splash page. I like how clean it is right now. No need to ad clutter. Feature them on the main site like Pinkbike does. As long as there's a sick picture to get people to click, then the next thing they should see is the VOTD/article of the day, etc.
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I still really want to try and incorporate the VOTD into the splash page. It looks so sick when we have a vertical photo, and we don't (without re-designing) have a spot for it on the Homepage.

We just made a small adjustment that will make this work better on smaller screens. See how you like this for a week or two and we can go back to the drawing board if we see any future issues.
 
13006319:Mr.Bishop said:
Its a great issue to bring up about photo theft. Its a massive problem all across the internet - as is the problem that photographers don't realize their signing over the rights to their photos when they upload to services like Facebook and Instagram. Rights management is a disaster, and we all need to wake up and work towards a system that pushes compensation vs. paranoid hoarding of photos that never go anywhere
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Yes, we sign them to the company but it isn't the company that okays the useage. I understand they have the right to use it but these instances were straight theft with no FB as a middleman like the T&Cs say they can.

Anyways, I am with you
 
13026786:RileySnyderPhoto said:
Yes, we sign them to the company but it isn't the company that okays the useage. I understand they have the right to use it but these instances were straight theft with no FB as a middleman like the T&Cs say they can.

Anyways, I am with you
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So you're saying the 'google images' issue basically... where people need a cool ski image and just grab whatever they can find? If its high rez then it increases the chances that they'll just snag it?

Interesting.

Still, I think that the future solution is frictionless licensing. How to accomplish that, I don't yet know. Great topic to bring up in the photographers cult, as I'd love to be a part of solving this issue.
 
13027157:ThaLorax said:
You guys have had some serious ADD with changing the splash page formats.
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Well, it now automatically changes between portrait and landscape, so you will see that change depending on what format the POTD is.

In terms of the big picture changes - yes, we have been making a lot of them. We've been trying to find something that works for a few different issues we wanted to address, and some of the experiments have worked better than others.

The full screen photo was terrible, and much worse than the original splash page. This current version is much better than both of those, but I still don't think its perfect.

For the time being we'll run with this and see if we get any other tweaks that might make it better. The big breakthrough was how we're handling the vertical photos - that has always been the killer for every iteration of the splash page we've ever tried.
 
13027397:Mr.Bishop said:
Well, it now automatically changes between portrait and landscape, so you will see that change depending on what format the POTD is.
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That makes a lot more sense.
 
13027606:ThaLorax said:
That makes a lot more sense.
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That has been the hardest part to solve... how do you get one layout that can look good with both horizontal and vertical photos?

Realizing we simply couldn't solve this and then making two different ones I think was a game changer.
 
13027732:Mr.Bishop said:
That has been the hardest part to solve... how do you get one layout that can look good with both horizontal and vertical photos?

Realizing we simply couldn't solve this and then making two different ones I think was a game changer.
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The main issue is also most computer monitors are 16:9 anymore and for some reason, camera companies make the sensors in a 3:2 ratio. This is the big thing causing all these problems imho.
 
13034162:RileySnyderPhoto said:
The main issue is also most computer monitors are 16:9 anymore and for some reason, camera companies make the sensors in a 3:2 ratio. This is the big thing causing all these problems imho.
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And to further this issue, in print the most popular frame sizes and cheapest prints come in 4:5 ratios (8x10, 11x14, etc)

Can't we just all get along?! :(
 
13027397:Mr.Bishop said:
Well, it now automatically changes between portrait and landscape, so you will see that change depending on what format the POTD is.

In terms of the big picture changes - yes, we have been making a lot of them. We've been trying to find something that works for a few different issues we wanted to address, and some of the experiments have worked better than others.

The full screen photo was terrible, and much worse than the original splash page. This current version is much better than both of those, but I still don't think its perfect.

For the time being we'll run with this and see if we get any other tweaks that might make it better. The big breakthrough was how we're handling the vertical photos - that has always been the killer for every iteration of the splash page we've ever tried.
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Just wanted to say I really like it right now! I think its a good way to go about it, plus it gives videos (VOD?) a chance to make a bigger appearance with the vertical photo. I'm a fan, good work!
 
13026869:Mr.Bishop said:
So you're saying the 'google images' issue basically... where people need a cool ski image and just grab whatever they can find? If its high rez then it increases the chances that they'll just snag it?

Interesting.

Still, I think that the future solution is frictionless licensing. How to accomplish that, I don't yet know. Great topic to bring up in the photographers cult, as I'd love to be a part of solving this issue.
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In terms of theft, how hard is it to implement a system where you tick a box when uploading your image, and it means that like on flickr it is protected from right clicking and doing save as. I think the opportunity to choose whether or not they are protected is quite important, as for example with my photos as I do not plan to monetise from them I don't mind sharing them with other people to allow them to use as backgrounds.

For new layout ideas for landscape, I have an idea for what it could look like, if it works out ill take a picture and upload it here tomorrow morning.
 
13039299:MLJ said:
In terms of theft, how hard is it to implement a system where you tick a box when uploading your image, and it means that like on flickr it is protected from right clicking and doing save as. I think the opportunity to choose whether or not they are protected is quite important, as for example with my photos as I do not plan to monetise from them I don't mind sharing them with other people to allow them to use as backgrounds.

For new layout ideas for landscape, I have an idea for what it could look like, if it works out ill take a picture and upload it here tomorrow morning.
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Well first off, disabling right click - save as doesn't in the slightest bit protect that photo. Makes it a touch harder, but anyone can easily google how to get it.
http://foliovision.com/2010/11/download-flickr-images

13066033:SDrvper said:
How did a photo from july 14th get potd on july 21st?
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The algorithm actually has a minimum 'wilson score' requirement. So when we don't have something within the past 7 days that has a high enough Wilson Score, we go deeper to the last 14. If nothing from there, then to 21, 30 and 365.
 
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