Pep fujas?

skiizy

skiizy

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ok so i have the fugitives, and heres the deal i love pep hes an inspiration to me... but to be honest i see him in the back country the majority of the time, so why give him a soft semi skinnier ski that doesnt represent him as the skier he is now? opposed to something like the seth pro model? considering the silencer is near identical to the fugitive K2 would not be losing a ski in that profile... anyone ever wonder the same thing?
 


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fujative exists since 3 or 4 years, it was in my mind never a promodel for pep but more a low cost ski made in china made for everyone particularly people who want to begin freestyle skiing

next winter will appear the kung fujas, BC oriented ski, i try it and for me it's one of the best ski for do everything in a mountain
 
i want kung fu at low price = need large stock + low demand = secrecy = kill redundant thread = twitch = i h8 ^
 
i didnt realize the fung fujas was back country oriented, this years fugis were 113/85/104 and next years KFujas are jumpin up at 126/95/120, but still nowhere close to the hellbent (150/122/141) which is what he rode mainly in IDEA or the obSethed (138/105/125) sure they are moving up, but i still think they should be considered a park ski like the reno rocker (although a different company) this ski is definately a park ski, and its dimension at 117/92/117 are slightly smaller than those of the Kung Fujas... so i disagree that the kungs are BC oriented and i think that pep's pro model should be that of the hellbents dimensions... to match his personality as a skier
 
Flargin nargin shut your mouth old school bastard me is need new ski better than seth pistol 03' dimensions 128/95/118 k2 launch backcountry twin. i poor. you suck = nub
 
Sorry dude, but just because its "only" 95 doesnt mean that it cant be a BC ski, and of course his pro model isnt going to be a lot like the hellbent, it doesnt make as much sense to make two skis so similiar, now that the seths has fattened up they need a ski to take its place, hope that made sense, I really need some fucking sleep~
 
no what you said makes sense, but thats kind of my point why did they have the silencers AND fugis?

fugitives dimensions: 113/84/104

silencer dimensions: 113/80/104

the only difference is underfoot, and even then its 4mm! i mean come on what is K2 thinking? i guess i should rethink my thoughts on what K2 should do, bump the seths up more, eliminate the hellbents and bump up fugis, replacing the seths as well as making them more BC, and then next year with the disorderlies as well as the extremes coming in it keep 2 skis at park and 2 at BC, with slow steps up for those who do more... i think that would be a perfect balance.
 
You are completely ignoring the internal aspects of the Fujative in comparison to the Silencer. The Fujative was the first-ever park specific ski with a modified core of softer blended woods at two distinct points in the ski for tail and tip presses. The Silencer is going to give you more traditional stiffer tail performance all over.
As for what we create with our ski line-up, there is no way we would eliminate the HellBent, that thing is way too sick and these overall line lists are not decisions we make in a five minute period. We spend all year deciding, creating and testing what we will come out with and where it fits in our current offerings.
 
i believe i read somewhere that he wanted to have a lower priced pro model so kids could get into skiing easier. i could be completely wrong though. either way obviously hes going to be using the hellbent 99 percent of the time thats the type of skiing he does.
 
Yes, he wanted it affordable, and you might remember nobody sold skis for 299.00 back then:) Especially a ski as sick as the Fujative. Pep does hunt down the pow most of his time now, and he wanted his pro-model to be a bit more versatile on days he might not be rocking HellBents. That is why he helped us create the new Kung Fuajs at 95mm underfoot. Something you could ski park on all year and still take it in pow or go shred the rest of the mountain. It is envisioned to be a ski that can do all.
 
alright so fujatives came out a few seasons before silencers... so they were THE k2 park ski, while the public enemy was a heavier all mountian twin tip ski with the dimensions 113/80/104... after the first season, the public enemy dimensions were beefed up another 5mm all around to keep the same sidecut and turning radius. now they were 118/85/109 and pretty heavy for park skiing. a few seasons later, k2 realized that people like the sidecut and radius of this ski but wanted something lighter. this made the arrival as the k2 silencer, 113/80/104, a softer, more park oriented sibling to the public enemy at a lower price than the p.e.

if you have tested the fujative, silencer, and public enemy you would notice the difference in turn radius, flex, and weight.

the fujative is a noodle and has very little sidecut, thus making it mainly good for just straight lines toward a jump or rail in the park and not very good for just all around carving on the mountain... unless you have a decent amount of skill actually skiing. 90% park 10% all mountain (the k2 site said it a while back)

the silencer is a light, all mountain one ski quiver for somone that can only afford one pair or whatever. this ski has good pop in the park and has a decent waist to stomp the big tricks, while also having the sidecut of a more all mountain ski, enabling it to be able to get on edge easier and quicker. 60% park 40% allmountain (k2 site)

the public enemy is a "heavy" all mountain ski that is also a twin tip model.. decently wide waist for a little powder but not really a bc ski, just meant for ripping all over the mountain with the added stability of an 85mm waist for high speeds.... 20 or 30% park 80 or 70% allmountain

and the fujatives were designed when pep was more into the park anyway... and he does use them when he is in the park other than when he was on the hellbents

hope i dont have a bunch of info wrong here, i used to be looking for a k2 twintip as my first twintips and did a lot of research on public enemies and silencers a couple seasons ago... and my brother and my friend both have the 06 fujatives and i have tried them out
 
i think the new kung fujas look sick, plus they come in 189, so a company is finally making a long park-ish ski for us tall folk. TOO bad i just bought PEs and don't need another all mountian/park ski.
i'm pretty set on the disoderlys though, the only question i have is why haven't i seen any pros riding them.
 
i haven't skied anything besides east coast ice that my fujatives were not fun in. i've dropped cliffs in whistler on them, and they're still fun, even though they're center mounted. just because they're soft as hell and have minimal sidecut does not make them a crappy all mountain ski; i think that it depends on your style of skiing. being able to butter and press everything i can find, whether its in the park or otherwise, is why i like the ski so much. i'm sad to see it go.
 
fujatives are a fun ski, i know that, but all mountain includes groomers and crud which the fujatives dont do so well in. they were made as a fun park ski with a bigger waist than any other park ski at the time so they could go into the pow. they are also wicked fun in moguls cause they are so soft, but when i was saying all mountain i was considering carving and groomers and stuff like that... its just not what they were made for.
 
Actually the Fujative is fun as hell on groomers. It is super stiff torsionally underfoot, aka, carves well because the ski doesn't want to twist when pressure is applied into a turn.
 
Even if you held all else equal (i.e. ignore all the other significant differences between the skis), that 4mm difference makes the skis completely different in the way they ride and the radius of turns etc.
 
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