Yeah we're talking about completely different things. Men's and Women's clothes are different animals. Different things are important, and different companies consequently hold sway. Lanvin is a high-fashion street brand for guys... YSL is basically not even a player right now. Everyone's talking about Geller, Raf (as always), Acne, Filippa K, Tim Hamilton, Rick Owens and to a lesser extent Michael Bastian, Patrick Ervell, Shipley & Halmos, Kris Van Assche among others on that 2nd tier. Girls look for totally different things in clothes and the design philosophy of the company can vary immensely. So, apples to oranges. For the record, gucci and D&G both have HORRENDOUS price to quality ratio in mens, although some gucci dress shoes are arguably worth the price for the lasts... but you could just buy from people like Lobb, Greene and Vass and do better for the price. I have some black label Dolce&Gabanna dress shirts, they're extremely well made and fit slim off the rack but the long collar got old very quickly and the $3-400 retail price is just robbery when I can get shirts custom made or MTM for around $100.