Peer Pressure, Big Jumps and Little Brothers

SteveXs2

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My 13 year old brother is in the hospital from landing on his back on the biggest jump in the park. I don't know how big the jump is, the lip itself is a good 8ft tall, and the flat is only like 20-30 feet but with a looong landing where most people were landing a good 40-50ft.

Anyways, he's not that good of a skier, I can admit, it's only his second year skiing and he tends to lean a bit backseat when he skis, partially because his rear-entry boots are set back and leave him in that position. But anyways, the thing that pisses me off is that he doesn't normally do that kind of thing, the jump had been open for only like an hour or so, and he's not the kind of kid to hit it without a lot of incentive.

I think that came from his friend's though, I've known one of his friends for a looong time (12 years maybe) and he's always been slightly stupid and pressures my brother to do things. Now, my brother excels in team sports like soccer and hockey, rep team player etc, and he's a pretty good BMXer, but skiing is new to him and this jump is totally out of his league and his friends know this, but they hit it, so, of course he should hit it right? Fuck, peer pressure is gay, my brother's lying on his back in a hospital bed now because of peer pressure, I know my brother, he hates doing these kind of things, but his friends will pressure him like mad in any sport, and if he doesn't do it they rub it in his face until he does, same thing happened with BMXing which has scarred my brother up pretty good.

Anyways, just sharing my version of a shitty day where I had to hold my brother to the ground so the ski patrol could check him out without him moving and possibly fucking something up. Fuck Peer Pressure.

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Yes, this is a definite problem that almost all of us face. Sadly he is injured as a result of it, in future though you as his older sibling can and probably will be the strongest and greatest influence to curb this behaviour in him.

You can either simply look to others and say 'they should stop' which we all know from personal experience will never really happen, there will always be some clown calling chicken.

So the real answer in preventing a catastrophy from happening will be educating your brother and strengthening his sense of self esteem, because it is a lack of positive self esteem that makes a person sucummb to poor judgement from pressure.

I am sure he is a great kid, with tons of physical talent, but he has to get a solid grip on his mental game, he has to learn to listen only to HIS limitations, fear is his ally. I am sure he will not go to the opposite spectrum and be afraid to do anything, it does not sound like he is of that persuasion. But he may need to learn to come to grips with the fact that his 'friends' may call him a pussy or such.. He has to learn to tell them off.

I am sure you were there too, think back how you handled it, and try to give him the tools you learned.

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Mabe it's time to find some new 'friends' and also to figure out that peer pressure is a joke. When he gets out of the hospital tell him to quit giving a shit about what other dumb asses think and to do things for himself. Hope he gets better soon.

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wow, that sucks. best wishes for your brother, and you too. keep us posted.

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Skimack, you have to remember that he is 13. Most 13 year olds are pretty insecure and are concerned about what people think. Anyways, I hope your brother gets better

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Doctors said he's not paralyzed and i don't know if there are any fractures or anything. But I know if I were there (I was about 2 mins down the run) I woulda told his friends to shut the fuck up. I've had to do it before when they're pressuring him into shit like that, and the worst part is that my brother has been skiing for 2 years, whereas one of the kids that's pressuring him has beed skiing for like 9 years and the other does a LOT of skiing.

Also, another skier like 10 minutes before my brother hit it did the same thing and ended up breaking his back. Pretty shitty, I'm guessing it has a good deal to do with the jump because a lot of people were landing backseat on it.

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gethyped.net
 
man, that blows, like sum1 else said, i think u can have an effect on him. Whenever my older brother tells me to do something, I usually listen and respect it, even tho my brother and i aren't that close. Peer pressure is hard tho, and thats wut pisses me off about people who give kids hard times when they're not pros. A lot of people on this website give people shit about puttin up videos of their first threes and stuff like that. If they do that on the mountain, sum1 could definitely try sumthing theyre not prepared for and hurt yourself like your brother.

 
Big jumps can be a pain in the butt, or heel in my case. I came up about 2 feet short of the landing last night on a big table and my heel is killing me!

Anyways, glad to hear your brother doesnt sound like he has any serious injury. He's very lucky. Some positive things could come out of it though. Next time his 'friends' pull a stunt like this, he'll have this experience to look back on and remember what happens when he succumbs to peer pressure. Get well soon little steve.

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theres only one thing to be said, your brother almost deserves a darwin award, its asshole, but you know its true

Fuck You
 
what it all comes down to is what your bro wanted to do. im sorry but its not your bros friends fault that he hit the jump, its his own.

 
Yah, I thik he konws that. He's making the point that peer presure sucks. We all fall into it at one time.

better to burn out...

...then fade away
 
if he was older and more mature i would say that it was tottaly his fault, but sinces hes only(13 you say) i defantly agree that it was partly his friends fault for pressureing him into it because i wasnt just starting to care about my self image so long ago and i know what its like to not want people to think your gay for being afraid to do somthing

 
hang on...if the injured 13 year old can't be held responsible because of age, then how can his PEERS be held responsible for peer pressuring him? weird

 
pressure in the park is ok, it helps u to get u stoked and to help u overcome some fears, BUT dont max that pressure out, if this it totally out of ur friends leauge teell him to hold up for a few more seasons.

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Most of you people can't relate to this cause you don't know his friends, seriously, they're fucking evil and I don't know why he still hangs out with him, they're so opinionated and a bunch of posers.

Anyways, my brother is in a neck brace now for 6 weeks and his CT Scans are getting sent off to a Radiologist to find out what's wrong with his neck. He's missing competing in the Winter Games, Hockey Playoffs, and the rest of the ski season.

To those who were saying 'It was his fault', obviously it was his choice to go and hit it, but when your friends are pressuring you into doing some indesirable, you don't want to do it, but you know if you don't do it it's going to come back on haunt you. This time, backing out and actually hitting it will both come back to haunt him. And to those people, you sound like a couple of pressurers yourselves so all I have to say to you is fuck off.

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gethyped.net
 
if your bro aint smart enough to 1 not hit the jump and 2 get some new friends, then hes just a fuckin loser man, try helpin him get some self confidence

Fuck You
 
^^ Real constructive.

Grow up. He is a kid, we all were kids once and some of us still are.

We all want to impress our peer group, and no matter what age we are we all sometimes do and or say things that are foolish or even dangerous to live up to the imagined expectations of our peer group.

That said, yes, his 'friends' are cones, they probably fully well know that this jump was far beyond his capability and probably assumed he would case it and crash. They however did not posses the foresight to imagine the 'worst' possible income.

He truly needs new friends, but that is not likely to happen as he chose these peers.. He has personal reasons for his investment.

It is only up to you, his brother to try and instill a stronger sense of self worth.

But at the same time we can all learn from this, we all pressure our friends, I know I have, and you all know that there were times where you have as well.

If you are going to pressure someone you really have to understand that you are starting to accept liability for what might happen.

Don't hide behind the cop out of 'well he had the final decision'.

If you goad someone, you are partly responsible for what the outcome is.

Funny how when the outcome is positive, for example you tell your friend to hit a jump and he greases it I bet you are the first one to remind him that you were the one who got him to do it.... so in the same line of reasoning if something terribly wrong happens, pony up and take responsibilty for your actions.

These cones should all be down at the hospital appologizing but sadly that won't happen.

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^You havent been here long enough to realize that that was one of Ds91260's more helpful posts...

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Fuck you Ds91260. You don't even know anything about my brother except:

a) he's in a neck brace for 6 weeks, and the doctors are unsure of what the problem is with his neck until they get his CT scan results back, for all we know it could be something totally fucked up.

b) His friends suck

I'll say it again, fuck you.

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i always do that kinda stuff i peer pressured mikee to hit a rail and he almost died ... but i chanegd my ways a little since he almsot died...

D.I.
 
peer presure can be good, just like alot of other things. But when it comes down to it, it wasn't entirely your bro's friends fault. He decided to hit the jump so its just as much is fault than his friends. Would your brother jump off a cliff if his friends jumped off a clif?...

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this sounds like my brother, i push him so much hes going to die someday, hes like 12 and he will try anything i tell him to, he usually sticks it tho... thats the doffrence.....

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^^ It's his second year skiing, he doesn't exactly know how these jumps are gonna throw him, his friends were just saying 'go fast'.

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i don't want to talk shit, but DS should really stop bein an asshole here. Peer pressure can be good, but it can also be really bad. You have to try things you're scared of to get better, but there's also certain things that you're just not ready for, but that maybe in a few months or a season, you will be. You need to wait on those.

There's really no 'lesson' or anything in this post, or right or wrong. But, when I read this, I really thought that one of the most difficult things I've learned in skiing is when to push yourself and when to realize you're not good enough for something and to chill out on it.

Hope your brother gets better, and hope ds91260 chokes on the next knob he slobs for those comments.

 
that totally sucks, best wishes.... but peer pressure can be good. like i was wussin' out on this rail, and my friends pressured me into hitting it, and i got it first try. it was sweet.

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He should do what he wants and not what other people want him to do, best wishes to your brother.

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Screw them, let them cry in the dark.
 
its only my second year skiing and im sure im better then alot of people on here.....

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yeah hope you bro gets well n maybee this ill teach him to work up i know every time i got for a new jump i just stright air it to get a feel for it even if i think can do better best wishes n tell him to work up rather then hittign it big first time round

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yeah hope you bro gets well n maybee this ill teach him to work up i know every time i got for a new jump i just stright air it to get a feel for it even if i think can do better best wishes n tell him to work up rather then hittign it big first time round

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some older boys tryed to peer pressure this clown i know into raping a midget. ya so then he did but the midget was into to it. ya, they got maried last week

and a lesbian midget clown daughter is on her way it

will be a happy family.

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Hey that's so sad about your little bro Steve. Its sux that people have to go thru things like that and it sux even more that your brother felt pressured to do that

Wut really pisses me off is there's still jerks out there (ahem. . .Ds91260.. . . .) that are just trying to get attention by being assholes, just don't even pay attention to him

Best luck 2 your little brother

 
Hey,sorry about your bro.

I always look up for my older bro (who is a kickass waterskier!He knows how to do 4 different kind of backflips,so for me he is way better than anybody else),and when we are skiing together(which doesn't happen very often,since he lives in Spain and I in Canada for now)we always push each other.But that's because we know how to do it and in what occasions(specially rippin the chutes in Spain...)

Steve,it's pretty obvious to me that u should grab a shovel and stick it up you bro's friends'ass!!Do it man,this sort of people will never learn until you make something about it...protect ur bro and kill the motherfucker who was calling him a chicken before he landed on his back.

Hopefully he'll get better soon.

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RS4LIFE, little do you know, park isn't the only kind of skiing out there...

And yeah, his CT Scans are back, and his neck is broken. 6 weeks in a neck brace + chiropractic therapy and possibly spinal surgery.

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damn steve, that really sux. I feel for you man because i have two younger bros too. Your brothers friends seem stupid and if they really cared about your bro they would have def told him not to hit it.

That is crazy though because something like that happened to me last weekend. I wasn't peer pressured into it, but I launched a huge lip table that sent me backseat about 25 feet in the air and i came down without flailing right onto my back/side. I prob schould not have moved around much because it felt like my f'n back was broken. Wow, did it hurt and I am still sore from it. I went to the doc and he didnt think anything was broke, I just really bashed my back muscles, hopefully....its still sore.

But yea, now your bros season is done! All because of a stupid cocky little kid. Well, all you can do now is spend as much time with your bro as you can. I always enjoy spending time with my brothers no matter what. Teach him about what you've learned through your life and teach him to ski safely. It will make your bro forget about his injury some if you make him happy. Keep his mind off of it and cater to his every need.

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Sorry bout your brother man, i hope he gets better soon.

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I'm so big

you'd have to jump and swing up

just to hit me in the knees....

 
If his friends were 'pushing him' to 'progress' into becoming a better skier, they would have brought him to a smaller jump that wouldn't have much of a consequence if he fell. His friends were not trying to push him, they were most likely trying to tease him and prove that they are better, that happens all the time. The bottomline is that his friends coaxed Steve's bro into hitting a jump they knew he shouldn't have, causing him to break his neck, and now he is missing out on his Hockey Playoffs, Winter Games, the whole shpeal. Bummer for your brother man, hope he gets better soon.

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iv decided im goign to peer pressure people. and if they give in ill lecture them . this way i make a difference!!

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