SharfSchutze
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Hmm, can you even do that with Macs?
Pc or a mac? laptop
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OutofOrder
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No, thats how they make money
SharfSchutze
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Interesting, another point for Windows.
WINDOWS FTW!!
WINDOWS FTW!!
t-man152
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someone said that PCs get outdated faster than Macs.
here is why. you have hundreds of companies making thousands of parts for PCs all of them interchangeable and all competing against each other.
a couple of months ago Nvidia anounced the Geforce 8 series (about 2 times more powerful than the graphics card in the PS3)
a week later 4 models of that card were available to buy. I could have bought it the day it came out and have it in my computer the day those cards were released.
same with processors, ram, blue ray drives, HD-DVD drives and so forth, I can buy those components and have them in my case the same day.
Mac on the other hand a new component comes out PC users adopt it, then another product comes out pc users adopt it until one day Steve Jobs comes on stage and anounces to the world you guys can now buy a mac with the same technology that windows users have been able to use for the past 8 or 9 months.
PCs have new products coming out every day Mac gives you a new upgrade on the macs every 6 or so months
here is why. you have hundreds of companies making thousands of parts for PCs all of them interchangeable and all competing against each other.
a couple of months ago Nvidia anounced the Geforce 8 series (about 2 times more powerful than the graphics card in the PS3)
a week later 4 models of that card were available to buy. I could have bought it the day it came out and have it in my computer the day those cards were released.
same with processors, ram, blue ray drives, HD-DVD drives and so forth, I can buy those components and have them in my case the same day.
Mac on the other hand a new component comes out PC users adopt it, then another product comes out pc users adopt it until one day Steve Jobs comes on stage and anounces to the world you guys can now buy a mac with the same technology that windows users have been able to use for the past 8 or 9 months.
PCs have new products coming out every day Mac gives you a new upgrade on the macs every 6 or so months
aoe
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um.. you dont pay for updates with Mac OS X.. You get 10.4.1,2,3,4 etc. you pay for an UPGRADE same as going from windows xp to vista. the fact that apple called each os release 10.something may be bad marketing on their part but you are getting an upgraded os.
What do you mean they would have to go to system 11 to be more secure(do you mean x11 like the developers tools)?? Leopard encorporates many new security features. look it up. And what do you guys mean when you say not as secure? OS X still doesn't have to deal with viruses/adware/malware/spyware
And I honestly don't see why this debate is still going on? Mac's can run windows now... best of both worlds.
The only arguement left is price. Ah not so lets do a little comparison on a similar config:
DELL XPS
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T7600 (2.33GHz, 4MB L2 Cache, 667 MHz FSB)
Genuine Windows® XP Media Center Edition 2005
No Express Upgrade to Windows Vista Selected
17 inch UltraSharp™ Wide Screen UXGA Display with TrueLife™
2GB DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHZ, 2 DIMM
160GB 5400 RPM SATA Hard Drive
8X CD/DVD Burner (DVD+/-RW) with double-layer DVD+R write capability
256MB NVIDIA® GeForce™ Go 7900 GS
Integrated Audio
Price: $3104USD
APPLE MacBook Pro
2.33GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
2GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM - 2x1GB
160GB Serial ATA Drive @ 5400 rpm
SuperDrive 8x (DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
MacBook Pro 17-inch Widescreen Display
Backlit Keyboard/Mac OS - U.S. English
Accessory Kit
Price:$2799USD ($2239USD w/ADC)
Nearly an identical spec and the apple is cheaper (much cheaper if you include the ADC). This also doesn't take into account the sheer beauty of the Mac. I don't understand why anyone would buy a different high end notebook? The only PC I can see why anyone (including myself) would be would be a gaming desktop.
What do you mean they would have to go to system 11 to be more secure(do you mean x11 like the developers tools)?? Leopard encorporates many new security features. look it up. And what do you guys mean when you say not as secure? OS X still doesn't have to deal with viruses/adware/malware/spyware
And I honestly don't see why this debate is still going on? Mac's can run windows now... best of both worlds.
The only arguement left is price. Ah not so lets do a little comparison on a similar config:
DELL XPS
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T7600 (2.33GHz, 4MB L2 Cache, 667 MHz FSB)
Genuine Windows® XP Media Center Edition 2005
No Express Upgrade to Windows Vista Selected
17 inch UltraSharp™ Wide Screen UXGA Display with TrueLife™
2GB DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHZ, 2 DIMM
160GB 5400 RPM SATA Hard Drive
8X CD/DVD Burner (DVD+/-RW) with double-layer DVD+R write capability
256MB NVIDIA® GeForce™ Go 7900 GS
Integrated Audio
Price: $3104USD
APPLE MacBook Pro
2.33GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
2GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM - 2x1GB
160GB Serial ATA Drive @ 5400 rpm
SuperDrive 8x (DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
MacBook Pro 17-inch Widescreen Display
Backlit Keyboard/Mac OS - U.S. English
Accessory Kit
Price:$2799USD ($2239USD w/ADC)
Nearly an identical spec and the apple is cheaper (much cheaper if you include the ADC). This also doesn't take into account the sheer beauty of the Mac. I don't understand why anyone would buy a different high end notebook? The only PC I can see why anyone (including myself) would be would be a gaming desktop.
t-man152
Active member
For the upgrades I mean that their are some upgrades but its still the same operating system OSX their is no Kernel change. it still has the same old way of using processor data and using the components, just a couple extra features which is just an OS upgrade not a whole new operating system.
as for the price diffenrence you are right similarily configured Dell and Mac setups have Macs beating Dell on price but those are similar products not identical products
but im sure that if Dell had gone with the slower ATI X1600 instead of the geforce 7900GS and had gone with the cheaper screen that displays a resolution of 1680 x 1050(the one apple uses) instead of the one that runs at 1920 x 1200 (also has more accurate color) then they could have saved the price difference
I agree with the best of both worlds and would pick a Macbook pro over any other notebook just because it runs Mac, Linux and Windows on the same machine.
but for desktop computers PC is still king its got more performance and more upgradde options.if apple makes a quad processor system a week later that quad processor is no longer the best and PC regains the edge on performance for the next few months until apple decides to sell that proccessor with their machines
as for the price diffenrence you are right similarily configured Dell and Mac setups have Macs beating Dell on price but those are similar products not identical products
but im sure that if Dell had gone with the slower ATI X1600 instead of the geforce 7900GS and had gone with the cheaper screen that displays a resolution of 1680 x 1050(the one apple uses) instead of the one that runs at 1920 x 1200 (also has more accurate color) then they could have saved the price difference
I agree with the best of both worlds and would pick a Macbook pro over any other notebook just because it runs Mac, Linux and Windows on the same machine.
but for desktop computers PC is still king its got more performance and more upgradde options.if apple makes a quad processor system a week later that quad processor is no longer the best and PC regains the edge on performance for the next few months until apple decides to sell that proccessor with their machines
RussellK141
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well, technically you can run OSX on PC. Its been hacked... and it runs better on PC than it does on mac. Check it out:
http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,68501-0.html
http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,68501-0.html