PBP, SAS, MSP, to name a few.

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i was wondering what programs all these companies use to edit their videos, i relize they are probablly all different but do you know what programs they are? Thanks.

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i dunno what they use, but sum Use Adobe Premier Pro. i think. er sumthin like it.

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i'm willing to put my life on it that they all use final cut pro probably, because they all use apple computers (they are the best) and final cut pro is the only worthy editing program for macs

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sas prolly uses adobe pro 1.5 but the bigger companys prolly use final cut....thats what berman uses

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apple computers actually are the best, i did a project on them for science or some shit in grade 9. Its amazing how much better they are, but if you start off with a pc your gonna buy a pc, start off with the mac, buy a mac

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mac is the way to go for editing, but im sure people will disagree..FCP is the best editing package for under 4000 (machine and program) on the market

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uhh, hate to break it to you but Mac's have nothing on a good PC for vid editing. pricewise they're way more expensive for the power. Yes, they frequently come with video features built in, but those are easily bought for a pc. apple cheats on most of their benchmarks, check out some articles about high end video editing, PCs come in much faster.

 
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the last... what ever your name is, fcp is not the best editing set up. AVID is far more powerful. And also as far as fcp goes if you want to use any kind of effects besides 'water drop' your better off using flame, smoke, or commotion, or aftereffects. FCP is basicly just to put clips in a row. it has a very useful ripple/rool/slip/side feature but so does premier. Yes most stuff is edited on macs at a begginer level, but profeshional cutters (profeshional editors) mostly prefer working on pc's. And yes I know what I'm talking about, I'm in fucking film school with a post production emphasis.

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people are always going to be bias towards what they grew up on. personally i have a ton of experience in film production and actually love to use both. I use PCs for Avid. Avid used to be more on the mac side but in the past years they have switched over to PC and seem to be dropping more and more features from their mac compatibility. I use xpress pro for offline and media composer or FCP for online. Personally I like either the HP wx8000 for avid stuff or the G5 for fcp stuff. the best thing anyone can do who wants to get into the business is learn all the tools they can. macs are pretty awesome when it comes to putting out great advances and taking great leaps and everytime they come out with something, Im surprised cause they are doing a good job. FCP, DVD studio pro, and shake are all really sweet programs. motion is a cool idea but has many limitations but watch for it to grow as a powerful product in the coming years. the PC side is where you have avid. avid is great but only if you are rich. problem is their dv line is full of bugs and has had problems over the years trying to get prosumers working it correctly. obviously if you have the money go avid but know that we are talking $40,000+ and goes up way beyond $100,000 just for a computer! NLE is YOUNG!!! the future is exciting in this field because each year both sides get so much more powerful and we need the competition between FCP and avid so us college kids can afford something worth it. premiere is nice but it has its limitations. personally for my workflow i like to use avid for offline, then tweak my project in FCP and media composers. besides those i use an array of tools such as protools, after effect, maya, lightwave, combustion...etc. basically all have their pros and cons and do something better than the other. dont just bash the other because you dont know how to use it... learn em all and you will love em all. damn i wrote a lot.....

 
i'm a PC user and use premiere 6.5, but, like someone above said, apple is GOD when it comes to multimedia/heavy video editing. as much as i love my comp, i know that PCs are nothing compared to macs when it comes to video editing.

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macs arent god, people just dont know what they are talking about and just hear from someone else or whatever. macs do accel in graphic design and content creation while pcs are targeted more for internet surfing and office work but both have their pros and cons and you need to look into that yourself rather than just listening to someone say 'macs are better' or 'pcs are better' you really cant compare them directly, kinda like anything in this world like skis, some say the public enemies are better while some say the 1080s are better, both are just skis but have their good and bad aspects

 
^ So basically you are saying that Mac's are indeed better for Graphic Design.

'macs do accel in graphic design and content creation while pcs are targeted more for internet surfing and office work'

A Mac can surf the internet just as well and/or easy as a PC. I'm not sure what you are talking about there. Plus if you want the Office Suite on an Mac, if for some reason Appleworks isn't good enough, you can always buy Office X for Mac which gets the job done just as well as Office XP.

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Dude, PC isn't the only thing they are finishing in high end. I was in post logic and they outputting to 2K on SGI (silicon graphics), which is more stable with RAID configurations. P.C.'s are good, but there are other options that are better for high end.

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avid is a professional editing software for pc.

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i personally DO know what im talking about when it comes to MAC. Ive been using once since the original monocrome Apple IIC was out when i was like 6

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i know that final cut is well over 1 grand, trust most people dont deserve to use it. as for myself i have a bootleg copy of adobe premiere 6.1 and it was free

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ive done some video editing on my pc with premiere pro, and on final cut pro, and i found the pc was a ton easier for some reason

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what i meant to say is that macs are targeted and marketed in general more for content creation and graphical work while pcs are marketed in general for business apps and home stuff, sorry bout the confusion, i mean in general they accel in graphic design more so than their business productivity and network infrastructure. also the high end SGI machines arent really considered pcs cause they run expensive version of UNIX and IRIX with the exception on linux in some cases but depends on the application

 
I used to be a PC guy, but I've been on mac for the last 4 years.

Final Cut Pro is infinitly better than Premiere, and personaly I think its every bit as good as Avid. The color correction in Final Cut Pro is as good as they get. Its like a Telecine in your computer. Plus you can use After effects (or any number of other third party plug in) filters right in Final Cut, maintaing all their key framing abilities, without the gehtto, non user friendly interface of After effects.

Now with Final Cut 4 HD on a dual prossesor G5, a fucking terrabyte raid stack and two 23 inch apple plasma displays, its every bit as good, if not better than a studio avid set up. The ability to firewire uncompressed High Def into your computer, and edit it full quality with real time effects is basicly as much as anyone needs in the year 2004. The other benifit of apple is their product work flow, begining in final cut, aplying complex effects in Shake (personal I think its far better than smoke, fire or combustion) Export an uncompressed master to DVD studio pro, make all that good stuff and burn away.

anyways thats my case for why I like mac more.

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^ plus the fact that everything in mac interconnects. I love the fact i can easily with one click create titles in TITLER to move to FCP4. In PC environment, you have to do 10 extra steps to do the same exact thing as in the Final Cut/Dvd Studio Suits. Apple makes things much more user friendly once u actually learn to use a mac

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well, to comment on a few things people have said. You can get a terrabyte raid stack on a PC much cheaper than on an Apple. And with hyperthreading and other advances, an x86 based dual processor machine will be a lot faster than the G5, at a lower cost.

When apple publishes their nubmers and benchmarks, they compile the software without optimizations that would make it run faster on a PC, among other things. This is why the results are skewed.

A good article on the subject (though slightly old) can be found here. A quick read will reveal that a cheaper PC outperformed the then fastest Mac available. This is going to give you faster rendering, and in general make your editing experience more responsive.

Even Adobe has shifted their focus from the Apple to the PC. That's a pretty big step for that company, and it tells you something.

As far as ease of use goes, if you prefer the Apple's interface to that of a PC, that's your preference, and there's no arguing that. However, as far as price and performance go (bang for the buck) the PC is the clear choice. I'd say this is especially applicable for ski movie production, and most movies are made with low budgets, and money saved on a computer can be spent on other things such as lenses, travel, etc.

 
what ever dude, apple look cooler. HAHA.

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