Parks used to be POPPIN

Kind of loose and generic title. What do you mean? Most mountains actually have decent parks now. Some parks got smaller, some parks got bigger.
 
Most places stopped putting money/as much money into parks because it isn’t as profitable in most places
 
14232842:WoFlowz said:
Most places stopped putting money/as much money into parks because it isn’t as profitable in most places

I mean pretty much every mtn has a park now and that wasnt a thing. Jumps are better built across the board, rail dimensions and set ups that make sense. Sure places arent as likely to gro rogue and build a 60 foot gap for no reason in the public park, but how good were some of thise builds actuslly. Some places have def gone soft, but parks are better across the board that they previously were for sure. Unless you like pipes then you might be salty.
 
This year we legit do not have enough snow to have an average park. Plus with covid theres not enough money to be made so parks come after everything.
 
14232862:theabortionator said:
I mean pretty much every mtn has a park now and that wasnt a thing. Jumps are better built across the board, rail dimensions and set ups that make sense. Sure places arent as likely to gro rogue and build a 60 foot gap for no reason in the public park, but how good were some of thise builds actuslly. Some places have def gone soft, but parks are better across the board that they previously were for sure. Unless you like pipes then you might be salty.

Yeah parks haven definitely gotten more wide spread and better built. I mean as in the size like my mtn used to have a 3 pack of two 45ft step downs then a 35ft step up. Ig what I also mean is a lot more ski areas have started putting less money into larger parks and more innovative/sketchy features
 
14232872:WoFlowz said:
Yeah parks haven definitely gotten more wide spread and better built. I mean as in the size like my mtn used to have a 3 pack of two 45ft step downs then a 35ft step up. Ig what I also mean is a lot more ski areas have started putting less money into larger parks and more innovative/sketchy features

I mean inovative and sketchy don't always have to go hand in hand. But yeah shit changes. Also less stepdowns and safer more fun jumps were a good trend in my opinion. It's a weird year though. Idk it sucks when your local gets nerfed. Beat thing you can do is try and give good suggestions in a non douchey way. Understanding that they're trying especially if small operation. I mean hell jumps were built by hand a lot of places for a long time.

Idk if your local sucks maybe try and get on the park crew and makes some possitive changes. Also if you suggest things to them don't be a dick about it.

It's 2021 though. Park building on the basic level isnt exactly rocket science, or shouldnt be.
 
14232906:theabortionator said:
I mean inovative and sketchy don't always have to go hand in hand. But yeah shit changes. Also less stepdowns and safer more fun jumps were a good trend in my opinion. It's a weird year though. Idk it sucks when your local gets nerfed. Beat thing you can do is try and give good suggestions in a non douchey way. Understanding that they're trying especially if small operation. I mean hell jumps were built by hand a lot of places for a long time.

Idk if your local sucks maybe try and get on the park crew and makes some possitive changes. Also if you suggest things to them don't be a dick about it.

It's 2021 though. Park building on the basic level isnt exactly rocket science, or shouldnt be.

Yeah I’m not old enough cause New York has super struck labor laws I def will try in a few years. I’ve been sending the park crew drawing of my ideas in the parks we have and they have thrown a few up which is nice theirs just a bit of a disconnect from upper management from what I’ve heard
 
Dude parks used to be so much more intense I feel like. I remember the dfd's from the early 2000's had like 45 degree kinks.
 
14233262:little1337 said:
Dude parks used to be so much more intense I feel like. I remember the dfd's from the early 2000's had like 45 degree kinks.

the worst part was the Dementors

seriously though things have gotten tamer. it doesn't shock me but i do miss the rawer looser approach some parks had in the past

i remember one park at stratton back when they were big on park, they basically just left a trail full of snow making whales and built lips all over them, it was so sick, tranny finding paradise
 
14232921:WoFlowz said:
Yeah I’m not old enough cause New York has super struck labor laws I def will try in a few years. I’ve been sending the park crew drawing of my ideas in the parks we have and they have thrown a few up which is nice theirs just a bit of a disconnect from upper management from what I’ve heard

Sounds like the ice coast scene i remember. What mountain you ride?

I worked at gore, west, and oak for for like 15 years between them. Rode a lot of the mtns, did a lot of night skiing as well.

But yeah. It sucks if your local isn't delivering. It's not much consultation but it coukd always be worse(usually). Have seen decent park programs all but disappear.

Also if jumps are whack or rail setuos are weird(and they arent being lazy but just honestly don't know) pictures can be super helpful.

If they dont know what a good jump or rail setup looks like other than replicating some whack 90s shit then showing them csn be helpful. Some of these small mtns have really good operators that can build stuff decent if they know what they're building.

Some also have crusty fuckers that will try to fight you for talking to them. So approach woth caution. Don't make any sudden movements lol.

Good luck man!
 
14233274:theabortionator said:
Sounds like the ice coast scene i remember. What mountain you ride?

I worked at gore, west, and oak for for like 15 years between them. Rode a lot of the mtns, did a lot of night skiing as well.

But yeah. It sucks if your local isn't delivering. It's not much consultation but it coukd always be worse(usually). Have seen decent park programs all but disappear.

Also if jumps are whack or rail setuos are weird(and they arent being lazy but just honestly don't know) pictures can be super helpful.

If they dont know what a good jump or rail setup looks like other than replicating some whack 90s shit then showing them csn be helpful. Some of these small mtns have really good operators that can build stuff decent if they know what they're building.

Some also have crusty fuckers that will try to fight you for talking to them. So approach woth caution. Don't make any sudden movements lol.

Good luck man!

Holiday Valley, they put more rails and boxes on trannys and hips like I had sent drawings of and built a jump in the same spot I sent drawings of

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Theirs some examples of the features I drew or spots with trannys with features on them. Props to the park crew tho from what they told me last year the cat operator is kinda a grouch. And they’ve had to do a lot on their own.

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I only have a photo of one of the flat bars but it’s like shifted side ways and you can see under it. (Opening weekend of our “big park”) our dfdfd you can see under the flats, our flat box down you could see under the down. I think it’s just the lack of snow this year but theirs always a handful of features like that where you can see under almost all season long. Now our jumps are another issue the lips are walls. You’d think their aerial jumps.

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14233262:little1337 said:
Dude parks used to be so much more intense I feel like. I remember the dfd's from the early 2000's had like 45 degree kinks.

And the jumps were basically thrown together with a shovel, good luck! At least shopping for park skis was easy since there weren't any options.
 
Seen some resorts playing the Covid excuse. "Too much crowding at the top"- translates into a cop out for defunding park and park crews. Most Colorado park friendly mtns are firing tho
 
14233262:little1337 said:
Dude parks used to be so much more intense I feel like. I remember the dfd's from the early 2000's had like 45 degree kinks.

yeah man even like flat bars would be 15 feet off the ground and needed a huge kicker to get onto the rail. i remember riding through killington's park way back in the day and seeing massive rainbow rails etc and wondering who hits these things
 
14233681:Dustin. said:
And the jumps were basically thrown together with a shovel, good luck! At least shopping for park skis was easy since there weren't any options.

Literally qere. You'd get a bladeful of snow if you were lucky. And how much the jump looked like a hump depended in the guy with the shovel. Also steep landings? Lololol never heard of em
 
14233884:theabortionator said:
Literally qere. You'd get a bladeful of snow if you were lucky. And how much the jump looked like a hump depended in the guy with the shovel. Also steep landings? Lololol never heard of em

That's why I bought trick skis.
 
They have changed slightly over time from pure just rails and jumps to more wonky and "playfull features" stuff like logs, bubbles, culverts, and other random jibs. Definitely changed but in my mind for the better
 
ours is actually really good right now, other than most the rails are almost to advanced. like you can't funly jib them, its only really safe to just go at um str8
 
14233848:Peter. said:
yeah man even like flat bars would be 15 feet off the ground and needed a huge kicker to get onto the rail. i remember riding through killington's park way back in the day and seeing massive rainbow rails etc and wondering who hits these things

Anyone else remember the wood parks from back in the day? At Schweitzer they had a crazy rail setup and everything was made out of wood and trees and stuff. It was really only for snowboarders but it was pretty crazy. That and Battleship rails that were super steep, I feel like you dont really see those as much anymore.
 
14234213:SuspiciousFish said:
Anyone else remember the wood parks from back in the day? At Schweitzer they had a crazy rail setup and everything was made out of wood and trees and stuff. It was really only for snowboarders but it was pretty crazy. That and Battleship rails that were super steep, I feel like you dont really see those as much anymore.

We were at crotched NH for their video park in 09 ish. They had a scavenger hunt contest for this video contest for an edit between multiple mtns. Was pretty cool shit.

But we had to find these wooden rails. This battleship had to have been at least 40' long and super steep on both sides. Prolly 4 feet tall with trees all around it. A pole jam off a cliff. A sketchy c rail.

Fuck I miss stumbling on sketchy wood shit in the trees.

Beaver creek actually has a pretty extensive set of wood features tucked away in spots.
 
14234213:SuspiciousFish said:
Battleship rails that were super steep, I feel like you dont really see those as much anymore.

14234217:theabortionator said:
This battleship had to have been at least 40' long and super steep on both sides.

wow what a nostalgia hit, i hadn't thought about that in years but yeah steep as fuck battleships and rainbows were endemic haha
 
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