Orange names suck

cobra_commander

cobra_commander

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The orange name idea, might have been good at one point, however the idea completely failed practically. All it has done is create another status symbol on NS, and that is one thing this site really does not need. Just look at how much 3/4th of the donators bitched about letting new people donate. If you don't believe it is a status symbol just go look at the top rated members, notice that about 30% are orange, then notice that 1/5th don't do anything but post team updates, and one quite the site 2 years ago since he hated it. Then you see threads such as the one nominating some random kid for an Orange name because he 'kills it' what the fuck I know plenty of people who 'kill it' but they really have nothing to do with the industry other then getting some cheap/free product.

The worst part about it is that it is not even a real status at all. It does not seem that you really need to be in the industry to actualy have one. and by in the industry I don't mean sponsored because that just means you gave a rep or team manager a better blow job then the next guy (but that is a whole other rant).

If the orange name is actually supposed to do what it was intended to there will need to be some tighter limits place on what qualifies as an orange name. The Orange name was originally designed to allow members to be able to know who to direct their questions towards regarding news relating to a company, product information, etc etc. If this is to be the case then it would be a good idea for people to be able to tell who the fuck you are and why you have an orange name. This should not require anything more then either reading the persons name or a quick glance at their profile. Someone should not half to go digging around the site in order to find out what this 'orange name' does and if they are the correct person to send their question(s) to. With that in mind it would also help if the people with orange names were people who questions should be directed towards. This is usually not team members, pro skiers, or others like that. If I wanted to know who to talk to regarding warranty issues, a team member is usually not the right person to ask since they don't usually deal with that sort of thing and may not even know the correct answer. A rep or someone similar is going to know the answers to those questions.

Another thing to consider with making a name orange is the company actualy in the ski industry or not just some kids calling themselves a company with no real idea about what they are trying to attempt to do (read: RMU).

So yea the Orange name idea failed. It could have worked, and it still has a chance to work but some changes need to be made. Right now it is just another status symbol of who know how to give a good blow job and who does not.

Thats my rant for tonight. Peace

P.S. Since I know it will be brought up that I am envious of the people who are orange names and want my name to be orange, I don't, I probably could be, but don't want to, even if I would get access to the 'industry insiders forum.'
 
hes sPaNzRd thats why hes orange, coreupt saw his promo video and signed him for a lot of money (for a skier)
 
I agree with Xav, certian aspects of that system need to be reviewed and remodeled because its kind of a farce right now .
 
Now that a complaint has been brought public. I'll add my 2 cents as a member and active participant, not as a mod.

I also agree with most parts of the original post. IMO - working in reverse.

1. If your profile is not filled out completely. you should not be orange

Including who you represent

Including contact information outside of NS

Including your position with in a company - I think team riders are okay - they are reps

2. If you do not have posts and are not active in the forums. You should not be orange.

3. If you don't log in or are not willing to regularly to check for PM's and such - you should not be orange.

4. If you don't return PM's (reasonable ones) - you should not be orange.

 
Very true. That will eliminate some, but what about the "pro skiers"? Gkenworthy is orange, but probably shouldn't be, whereas Jon Olsson should because he runs JOI/JOSS...You can also get into tricky ones, like Ian Cosco: is he a big enough part of Rage to be orange?

XD is right, this system needs to be tweaked...
 
And by the way (sorry for the double post), does anyone see that Pipe_Munky (11th from the top right now) is oranage? When you click on his name though to see it in his full profile, its not...GLITCH!
 
Exactly. There are curretnly too many communication flaws which end up hindering the effectiveness of having orange names in the first place. The idea is great in theory but it seemed like it was rushed to implimentation without fully 'debugging' the system.
 
Guys its the summer. We'll review all this stuff and come up with a way to sort it out I promise.

I think the orange names are amazing. There's no more "Is that really tanner posting" questions when Mr.Hall gets in there. Plus when we get it dialed it'll be a fantastic way to communicate with the companies that you want.

Often its up to the company who they want to make orange. I always check with someone's team manager if they want this person to officially represent the company.

The problem is that kids think its a prize for being good. Its not, its a matter of representation, just like sponsorship.

Gus is Orange. Gus gets paid from CoreUPT. Kids who are good but just on flow aren't orange.

 
But Bishop, its not about kids knowing who Tanner is, is it? Its because Tanner runs a film company. I thought it was so that kids could ask these people questions about their companies and get straight, informed answers. I could go to schmies, Line_Skis, or pdrago and ask them questions about K2, Line, and Jiberish...could Tim Durtschi or TJ answer those questions as well? (no offense guys). I'll give it to you that Gus probably knows more about CoreUPT than any of us, including me, so thats okay, but its gotten a bit out of hand in who you make orange...
 
i think it's good cos it shows who is a real pro rather than someone pretening to be a pro and when people claim to know about things you can tell they actually do when they are orange.

i do think some of the am film companys and clothing companys that don't actually sell anything yet don't really need it.

i think the riders that get it usually deserve it. Gkenworthy def does-he is a pro, so is cosco, i agree fully with doug on that point.

there should be an indication of why thet are orange on their profile though.
 
^yes I agree...I believe for some tehre should be descriptions why people are orange. I undertand Joystick..rep the company...stept is a film company and nick runs the shit very well...no offense to pipe_munky...he is new to the orange crew I believe but why? there are some that I question who they are and why they are orange. Descriptions would be SWELL
 
"I am the western canada sales rep for the company that distributes films from MSP, RAGE, THEORY-3, PBP, Nimbus, etc..."

This is what he told me when he read my post above and interpreted that I had a problem with his orange-ness. Tis legit I guess, sounds good to me...
 
i think that all the orange names repping a company should actually have the company name as their username like Moment and Amplid. itd be easier to find them and ask them questions
 
As per your requests, we just did some 'house cleaning' on the orange names, and will be more selective with who we make orange from now on. Hopefully you'll notice the changes and be happy with them.

cheers.

JS
 
good ideas, and i like Rob's ideas for criteria...if you don't man up and rep your orange name and comp, theres absoluetly no need...except for pros
 
I think that in the orange member's profile they should have a box that can only be edited by a mod saying who they are, example:

__________ Rep

Sponsored Skier

Owner of ________

etc

that way you can identify people in the industry by their name color and find out what they really do by looking in their profile.
 
all orange names should be run by me. if I have heard of them and trust them with my ski advice, they are orange. if not, fuck em.

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actually... he knows just about everything about the world. if i had a question about anything, he'd be the first one i'd go to. and you're right steve shouldnt be orange, he should be green. gabi kills it.
 
i see both sides. its sort of cool to see the orange people but im pretty sure most kids on here already know who they are without hte orange. on the other hand, i do hate how the member list is becoming a damn rainbow
 
Apparently you don't know what it means to ride for a company....

Being sponsored by a certain company, assuming its more than flow, means that you are repping that company. You need to know everything about the skis and why they are better than other skis.

I'm sure Tom, Steve, Henrik, and maybe even Gus have gotten the 'low down' on all of the equiptment. Enough to sit in a shop and tell customers everything there is to know about them. From my experience with pros, they usually have a speil that they go through concerning the product.
 
like bishop said, i like the idea, it just needs somemore tweaking. i liked your rant though. very argumentative.
 
I haven't really been in contact with a lit of the people with orange names, except Dave from moment skis. As far as i know, he's actually inside that company, and deserves an orange name. Personally i'm not sure if i'd trust "just a pro" when i need information on a product, i'd rather get it from the people who are actually behind it, and not just repping it.

What if pros had another color than orange, blue, pink etc? It might sort out this issue. You will still be able to tell what status they have in this community, and it will also keep the orange names to who it is really meant for.
 
I agree with the OP fully. Many of the orange names are not of large assistance.

I saw a post the other day by an orange name, which was about as bad as a thread from a 10 post-count 14 year old.
 
I'm the only person running the promotional media in skiing for Camp of Champions, I film, edit, and do anything else for Stept Productions, and i work for Proctor Jones
 
im not sure i agree.. as others have said if you are sponsered by a company and its 'not flow' then you will know about the equipment, such as what color a certain suit is going to come in, how the flex is on a certain ski, etc. If these skiers are orange then it is much easier to i.d. them so that you can ask questions regarding the product and you know that they are legitimate. There is no need to ask the owner/ceo/manager of a company about that stuff when they are most likely busy with more important things such as running the company.
 
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