Opinion Poll: Moderation

J.D.

J.D.

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Caveat: this isn't a vote or anything, and the response isn't necessarily going to change the way we moderate the forums. I'm just curious to hear people's thoughts on this.

Looking at deleting threads, I'm wondering if it might be better to start drawing a stricter line. We've always had these complaints about how the general discourse has gotten so much worse as time has passed on here, and a lot of that seems to be because SG and NSG are sort of like the Craigslist of opinion: there's so much useless trash that sorting through it to find good threads represents a pretty heroic effort.

So I'm wondering if people like it that way, ie, you can post whatever you want and we'll basically leave it up there, aside from the odd thing that gets removed, or if you'd like to see the green names use their discretion to remove things we think are pointless or stupid. Technically that's our policy anyway (surprise!) but often it's hard to know where to draw the line as to excessive censorship. Pointless hate? Delete. Blatant stupidity? Tough to say sometimes.

Basically it comes down to this question: Are people liking the freer market of posting whatever anyone wants, or do you want us to try to clean up the trash a little (which will probably make for a better quality forum but which entails deferring to the staff's judgment about what should stay and what should go)?

 
i like it the way it is right now. i think it should be up to the thread creator to delete his thread unless its really bad or something
 
The members complained before that the site was getting trashy and we compensated by adding new mods and clamping down a little more. They liked that and I haven't seen anyone complain since.
 
Even though this sounds dumb, I think that if you start deleting some of the pointless stuff, topics that are brought up every other day, reposts, and threads that aren't made with much thought, then you would be taking away part of NS. I like the way things are right now. Sure, stuff gets mad annoying...but whatever. It's pretty easy to tell if a thread is worth your while just by looking at the title basically. I guess you could become a little more strict about things, but completely eliminating threads I think isn't necessary. Unless the searchbar gets upgraded and is more efficent of course :)
 


I almost deleted the current Nipples thread as stupid, mean, derogatory towards women, hateful towards me... pick one..... ! But since the majority seems to be having fun.... I left it up.

Nearly all the moderation I do now is moving threads to proper categories. I leave moving stuff to regionals for the most part to a winter time activity. When winter comes around I tend to be more stringent with crap and will delete stuff faster.

I do however, delete posts that get ugly in Ski Gabber threads and I will delete any subsequent posts that quoted the offending post.
 
im kinda curious what is currently considered grounds for thread deletion. if something is just kind of stupid and pointless but not outright hurtful or anything, does that stay? does it have to be totally "tasteless and offensive" to be deleted? sometimes i dont mind really random threads- they can be interesting. usually if something is totally pointless, i just ignore it.

wondering how shit is moderated now, vs. how much stricter you are talking here.

also, not much really offends me, so i usually dont care...
 
Well right now the policy is really, delete whatever the rules we laid out say you should delete, and on top of that, delete anything you think should be deleted. So basically, if one of us opens a thread and goes "NSG would really be a better forum without this thread" (or "Wow, I really wish I had those 5 seconds of my life back"), we're entitled / supposed to axe said thread. However, in practice we leave a lot of that mind-bogglingly useless stuff right where it is, because someone else might somehow get some entertainment or enjoyment out of it. So really I guess what I'm asking is how harshly people would like to see us enforce the policy that's already in place. Because we're being pretty lenient with it right now.
 
There is no way to draw a line on this and you have to realize that. I delete mindless thread all the time without complaint. Its not hard to tell which ones have some value and which ones don't.
 
The hardest topic I struggle with is drinking and drugs. I would delete all threads in the public forums if I could, but since I am in a minority on this topic I don't touch them.
 
As I don't really create many threads any more or pointless threads i think...i am really not one to be offended to leaving the way it is. I think the forums are great the way they are and I never wish something was there that isn't or was deleted. You guys do great work
 
really i am liking how it is. i say pretty much let NSG be as free as you want (besides blatant hate, derogatory terms etc.) but a little bit of cleaning up of threads in SG and B/S/T wouldn't hurt anyone. i mean when i'm bored and want a laugh or something i go to NSG and i expect stupid threads. if i'm looking for gear or the latest news on ski shit, i don't like sorting through the stupid shit in there. so maybe a little stricter in the forums besides NSG? anyways you guys have been doing a really good job lately as far as trying to conform to what "we" (if you will) want as long as it's within limits.
 
i think they should be left. i mean, you're a dad you have to not like those things haha. but a lot of them offer a good bit of advice and entertainment.

my bad on the double post, i didn't read through the thread until after i posted.
 
Most of the threads in NSG and for the mostpart cause its now summer SG are straight up useless to me. Heres what I think - if a thread isnt contributing in any way shape or form to the forums, delete it. If someone posts something blatantly stupid, leave it up for their public humiliation.

I'm sure someone may argue that its the stupid and pointlessly one sided threads that bring out the best discussion (Aspens thread about Oil and ANWR for example), but if you want a serious discussion that isnt just shouting, start your thread with a represented and supported statement and make it a place for open discussion.

Basically, I wouldnt mind seeing mods clean up a little bit. If people complain too much, we can always revert to the present level of moderation.

And I'd also like to throw up a resolution that the mods rub the member of the months feet once and a while. And by mods I mean Ryno.
 
I think what I'll do to start with is this: if anyone thinks a thread should be deleted, they can PM me a link and tell me why they think so and I'll read it. I won't necessarily agree with you but I'll have a look. In the meantime I guess I'll just continue the hands off thing (unless subsequent posters totally disagree with everyone who's posted so far here). But I do want to pay a little closer attention, because it seems like it could be better than it is.

I think I've been too much in the cults lately and not on the main forums as I probably should be, in fact I think a lot of the green names have had that tendency, just because, to be honest, NSG and SG are unbearably idiotic a lot of the time. But it would probably be better if we could fix that rather than give up on them completely. So I'll start seeing if that's possible, and I'm sure other mods will take part.
 
^^^ I predict you won't get any PM's.... Rowen, I would like to see examples of current threads that you would delete.
 
Education is key. I understand how mods can be put into tough situations such as the ones above. I think things should be kept the same. Moderators should join thread discussions before deleting threads. Since they are people as well they have the ability to sway a topic like the rest of us and this could result in less argument over the banning of threads, and ultimately more arguments as well. Still I think the idea is to keep away from censorship. To conclude: keep things the way they are, kudos for getting more mods involved. And get even more mods involved as long as you can keep the mods under control, lol. Welcome to the downward spiral that is censorship and our lives.
 
It sucks when half the stuff in My Threads has been deleted, but I guess that's what I get for messin' around with taboo threads. I think there should be no moderation aside from spam removal. Or at least less entire thread deletes.
 
i like it the way it is right now. 'font got bigger' probably never wouldve gotten where it is today because its so stupid
 
here's an idea... instead of immediately banning memebers, especially ones who have been on the site for a long time and are in premiere cults, why don't the mods take a second to contact the member in question to try to resolve the situation? seems to me like a mature response that would set the bar for integrity. just an idea, JD... just an idea.

and don't delete this post simply be i posted it... it's actually a good idea that should be considered. it would certainly have saved us and other NS staff the trouble we find ourselves in now...
 
Delete all threads having to do with:

-Obscene shit

-Racist/sexist arguments

-"why was this thread deleted"

-Pointless ie: im taking a dump right now

-Thread going towards infinity of dumb arguments (mostly 10 pages of political ignorance ie:Bush is awesome)

-VOTING FOR PEOPLE ONLINE
 
I agree, I think, that they should only be kept if:

We are voting for:

And active member of NS or

Something Related to Skiing

Delete anything that's like... vote for my friends uncle's band or anything secondhand like that unless it's like that kid on cartoon network or swaying the polls at expn.
 
I like how you guys remove useless comments of old threads when bumped, sending them back into the history vaults. It gets annoying seeing them around.

As far as content, its fine.. it is nsg and sg... not exactly the strong points of the site for great information/content. People can have fun in these forums, so leave it as it is. We all have cults for sharing better content.

 
All your guy's "fantasy" moderated NS doesn't sound fun at ALL. Don't censor and overmoderate NS. Keep it the way it is. Taking away all the stupid shit would take away from NS and make it boring.
 
word.

other than that, the more strict you guys get, the more fun gets sucked out of NS. fuck what would this site be without a lot of the non-sense and silly shit? just a ski site? if i want that ill go to freeskier. but for a ski site plus shit thatll make me lol or wtf, i go here. more entertaining.
 
Agreed on the active member part. There was someone who signed up for NS just to get the vote sway. He was called out and that was the end of that.
 
I'm not sure if NS is being moderated more or less than before these days, but I like it right now. Though I must admit I spend more time in cults than in the main forums.
 
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