Opinion on The Bunch?

Yeah, I just hate it when people do something different and creative in skiing. Really grinds my gears to see the whole thing expand laterally and broaden its scope.

These guys should stick to a regimented training program of competition schedules and never do anything they haven't seen someone else do. Also, they should stop filming with their friends and having a good time because that's not progression.

Oops, I broke my own sarcasm meter there. And if you don't like the Bunch, that's fine. I happen to like watching their jib skiing more than most everyone else these days.
 
13464792:Literature said:
Yeah, I just hate it when people do something different and creative in skiing. Really grinds my gears to see the whole thing expand laterally and broaden its scope.

These guys should stick to a regimented training program of competition schedules and never do anything they haven't seen someone else do. Also, they should stop filming with their friends and having a good time because that's not progression.

Oops, I broke my own sarcasm meter there. And if you don't like the Bunch, that's fine. I happen to like watching their jib skiing more than most everyone else these days.
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I agree, skiing should just be one collective hivemind. How dare people go out of their ways to ski the ways they want to while putting out the content they want as well.

Needs more angry urban shots throwing skis around like a child.
 
to kind of expand on this thread a lot of what I think makes the bunch so great is their editing style. The Lappland edit is a really good example, In addition to the skiing the atmosphere was really nice too.
 
The bunch seems to reflect skating style alot, they remind me of pyramid country(skate company)

they are actually cool
 
the way i see it is any fucking kid with a coach can do a nice looking blind 4 out or a dub cork 10, but who wants to watch endless shots of that when you can look outside the box and really enjoy being on the mountain with friends and have fun, personally they are my favourite thing in skiing right now
 
13498426:w_skier said:
to kind of expand on this thread a lot of what I think makes the bunch so great is their editing style. The Lappland edit is a really good example, In addition to the skiing the atmosphere was really nice too.
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Yes! They have very good ears, always finding intricate grooves to ski to. Like someone already said, they probably watched a lot of Shaqson's videos.
 
love the skiing/ style... but they do have an edit where the do whippets on camera. Whippets are gross, go do some real drugs.
 
they need to separate themselves from them wack ass ymr kids. I mean shit, tommy wright? da fuk we ain't in tennessee

no idea how to embed on NS anymore
 
13500009:taj. said:
they need to separate themselves from them wack ass ymr kids. I mean shit, tommy wright? da fuk we ain't in tennessee
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Using tommy wright's music goes waaay back.. Way to spit on your roots.
 
I Love the bunch when they are actually doing tricks. I don't care how many times you can shuffle while hand dragging and wishy washy shit like that. But when they start to actually send shit I love them. I don't mean they have to be throwing 9s and 10s but stop just sliding around with your hand on the ground. In their dear JP video I fucking love the first shot. Just a big mute grab or peyben when he butters the lip at 1:21 and the shot after that but hate to see shit like 1:28 that is just a stupid trick and personally I think it just looks stupid all he does is a hand drag and a shuffle

[video]https://vimeo.com/128298220[/video]
 
Fuck the bunch they are the shittest skiers how are they even famous?? the SLVSH game made me want to vomit how can you call a hand drag 180 sitting on your bindings a fucking trick FUCK THE BUNCH
 
Why is the bunch getting so much hate??? This shit kind of makes me ashamed to be on newschoolers. Skiing is an individual experience and beyond that, everyone on here is just complaining about their FREE content. If you want to see triples and nick goepper himself, than YOU are the idiot watching the wrong edit.

I've been feeling the bunch lately. They do have a ton of bangers if you actually watch their videos. Plus Tobias reached out and hooked me up with a good deal on some new revisions which he didn't need to do. Does they get royalties if i buy a the bunch shirt from TTP??? I might go buy one right now
 
13462893:Shoelaces said:
The bunch is fresh air in skiing. They're the guys pushing it in a new direction.The exposure they're getting is totally deserved because everything they put out is original. Just look at Bardolino, if that shit came out tomorrow people would still be saying how progressive it is.

[video]https://www.newschoolers.com/watch/583465.0/Bardolino[/video]
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yeeeeeeeeeah but this is easily their best edit
 
13500270:kylemclean said:
I Love the bunch when they are actually doing tricks. I don't care how many times you can shuffle while hand dragging and wishy washy shit like that. But when they start to actually send shit I love them. I don't mean they have to be throwing 9s and 10s but stop just sliding around with your hand on the ground. In their dear JP video I fucking love the first shot. Just a big mute grab or peyben when he butters the lip at 1:21 and the shot after that but hate to see shit like 1:28 that is just a stupid trick and personally I think it just looks stupid all he does is a hand drag and a shuffle

[video]https://vimeo.com/128298220[/video]
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that stuffs fun though, the challenge is to make it look good and flow with whatever other stuff your doing. sometimes it doesn't go over super well, but other times (like 1:27 and 1:51 here) it looks sick

[video]https://vimeo.com/123854240[/video]
 
honestly i think skiing has something to take away from the bunch. they're pushing skiing in a different direction than most people are used to. i think the fact that they skateboard influences them a lot.

i got into skating a bit when i moved to salt lake city, and i love the culture. its similar to skiing and snowboarding especially in a lot of ways, but in my opinion often times the mentality of skiers and skaters are way different when approaching features or new tricks. skateboarding is cool because you can't really spin/flip a lot on a skateboard. so, in order to be original or do something new you really have to think outside of the box. think of competitions in skiing where they don't let you spin over a certain amount and it's more about style/creativity.

for example, last fall i went to a snowboard movie premiere at a local skate/board shop in SLC. they had some small skate features set up out front and dozens of kids were skating. at one point i looked over and saw a handful of kids having a full on sesh on a rock no bigger than my fist. like literally they were fucking around with that rock for like a half hour. people were getting stoked on other people shredding this rock that i'm sure people drove past everyday without ever even thinking about.

that's why i like the bunch. they take on progression with a non-linear mindset. they do things their own way. where you see a fridge, they see a feature. you might walk past a spot that the bunch hit and not even think of hitting urban there. that's pretty fuckin awesome to me
 
13500390:broto said:
honestly i think skiing has something to take away from the bunch. they're pushing skiing in a different direction than most people are used to. i think the fact that they skateboard influences them a lot.

i got into skating a bit when i moved to salt lake city, and i love the culture. its similar to skiing and snowboarding especially in a lot of ways, but in my opinion often times the mentality of skiers and skaters are way different when approaching features or new tricks. skateboarding is cool because you can't really spin/flip a lot on a skateboard. so, in order to be original or do something new you really have to think outside of the box. think of competitions in skiing where they don't let you spin over a certain amount and it's more about style/creativity.

for example, last fall i went to a snowboard movie premiere at a local skate/board shop in SLC. they had some small skate features set up out front and dozens of kids were skating. at one point i looked over and saw a handful of kids having a full on sesh on a rock no bigger than my fist. like literally they were fucking around with that rock for like a half hour. people were getting stoked on other people shredding this rock that i'm sure people drove past everyday without ever even thinking about.

that's why i like the bunch. they take on progression with a non-linear mindset. they do things their own way. where you see a fridge, they see a feature. you might walk past a spot that the bunch hit and not even think of hitting urban there. that's pretty fuckin awesome to me
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so much this. all of this. I'll reference this post in the future. the realness is off the charts. tybroto
 
13500449:NYager said:
I really like the bunch, but too much of a good thing is a bad thing.

It's like the Scott Stevens problem. When he first started doing weird stuff it was really cool and impressive, but now he does it all the time so it all looks the same.
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I think the same thing has happened with Andy parry for me. His wizard tricks are sick but don't have the same wow factor as they used to.
 
13500390:broto said:
honestly i think skiing has something to take away from the bunch. they're pushing skiing in a different direction than most people are used to. i think the fact that they skateboard influences them a lot.

i got into skating a bit when i moved to salt lake city, and i love the culture. its similar to skiing and snowboarding especially in a lot of ways, but in my opinion often times the mentality of skiers and skaters are way different when approaching features or new tricks. skateboarding is cool because you can't really spin/flip a lot on a skateboard. so, in order to be original or do something new you really have to think outside of the box. think of competitions in skiing where they don't let you spin over a certain amount and it's more about style/creativity.

for example, last fall i went to a snowboard movie premiere at a local skate/board shop in SLC. they had some small skate features set up out front and dozens of kids were skating. at one point i looked over and saw a handful of kids having a full on sesh on a rock no bigger than my fist. like literally they were fucking around with that rock for like a half hour. people were getting stoked on other people shredding this rock that i'm sure people drove past everyday without ever even thinking about.

that's why i like the bunch. they take on progression with a non-linear mindset. they do things their own way. where you see a fridge, they see a feature. you might walk past a spot that the bunch hit and not even think of hitting urban there. that's pretty fuckin awesome to me
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I see what you're getting at but something that you're forgetting is that this approach isn't exclusive to the bunch. While they exemplify it quite well, so many people in skiing have this mindset. People like to paint the drop video as black and white: the bunch vs competition jocks. It's not. Look at people like Hornbeck, Henrik, B Dog, Ahmet, Vanular, Leigh Powis, the list goes on. They've all pushed the sport in so many creative directions as well which is what the drop video is getting at. The bunch's approach to skiing is really nothing new if you break it down.

That being said, I do agree with the comparison to skateboarding and messing around on a rock. It is fun and its an amazing way to approach skiing. Some of the best times I've had skiing have been messing around on little jibs, trees, cliffs, or park features. I will never discourage anyone from skiing how they choose to. That's they're own form of expression that no one should inhibit it. However, as soon as they decide to film it and present it as a finished project, should one not be able to draw criticisms?

It is also tough to talk about the bunch in a less subjective light when it comes to the members included. Magnus is not the bunch. He is an amazing skier that slays in every way that I think anyone would be hard pressed to criticize. His segment in Less was easily the best in the whole film. However, he is not the bunch. The bunch is the bunch. He represents a piece of the bunch. Just as one can give praise to the bunch for his accomplishments and skiing, they should also be able to discuss the skiing of all of the other members as a true representation of the bunch. Make sense? You're only as strong as your weakest link.

Progression of the sport should always be praise worthy but it can take many different shapes, some that people like and dislike. It's interesting that blatant hate on triples is so widely accepted yet entertaining critical ideas about any other facet of skiing is really quite shunned. Jah feel?

Now I'm gonna go cry because the snow up at Alta probably already all melted :'(
 
13500858:K-Dot. said:
I see what you're getting at but something that you're forgetting is that this approach isn't exclusive to the bunch. While they exemplify it quite well, so many people in skiing have this mindset. People like to paint the drop video as black and white: the bunch vs competition jocks. It's not. Look at people like Hornbeck, Henrik, B Dog, Ahmet, Vanular, Leigh Powis, the list goes on. They've all pushed the sport in so many creative directions as well which is what the drop video is getting at. The bunch's approach to skiing is really nothing new if you break it down.
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see, but why aren't there debate threads on all of those dudes you just named? those are guys that are pretty much unanimously loved in the ski industry. they stray away from the average, but not nearly as much as the bunch does.
 
13500901:broto said:
see, but why aren't there debate threads on all of those dudes you just named? those are guys that are pretty much unanimously loved in the ski industry. they stray away from the average, but not nearly as much as the bunch does.
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Maybe in hindsight it might seem like that but for their time they were incredibly progressive. Edits on NS are already emulating the style of the bunch and soon what they're doing right now won't seem as progressive as it once was. I realize what you're saying though. Straying from the pack can breed controversy I suppose
 
So what if they aren't stomping ridiculous tricks? They capture the beauty of skiing so perfectly, which is purely to have fun and be creative.

No one has ever inspired me to ski like The Bunch has. They've influenced my skiing more than anyone else.

The bunch is by far my all time favorite ski group. Everything they're doing is 100% what skiing needs.
 
13462991:Sklar said:
Man, I think all the hate against The Drop video is wack.

Quote from The Drop video "Maybe its not my style." Says it all right there

Not everyone has to like the same things. The very reason why most people are hating on The Drop is for the same reason most people are advocating for The Bunch; showing their personal opinion and style. The Bunch are doing it through their personal style of skiing in front of a camera, and these guys are doing it talking in front of a camera.

So, I think the complete condemnation of an opposing viewpoint is dumb. As much as you may enjoy what The Bunch does, that does not mean that everyone else has to.

Good on them for sharing their opinion, although it may be unpopular, and I personally like what The Bunch is doing in large part.

I'll leave with another quote from the video "At the same time, I'm really glad they exist because of the way they are pushing the sport."
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ski more, talk less shit
 
It is possible to be creative by doing actual tricks. Also, why does everyone assume people who do triples not have fun skiing? People can do triples because they dedicated massive amounts of time to skiing. I'm pretty sure you would only do that if you were really passionate about the sport. The bunch can do whatever they want, but doing a 360 sliding around on the ground, and doing a 270 to sideways landing on a 5 foot jump is not hard, and really not that creative either. Real skifi is creative, and interesting. In my opinion, the bunch is not
 
13545687:icyburr said:
It is possible to be creative by doing actual tricks. Also, why does everyone assume people who do triples not have fun skiing? People can do triples because they dedicated massive amounts of time to skiing. I'm pretty sure you would only do that if you were really passionate about the sport. The bunch can do whatever they want, but doing a 360 sliding around on the ground, and doing a 270 to sideways landing on a 5 foot jump is not hard, and really not that creative either. Real skifi is creative, and interesting. In my opinion, the bunch is not
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lol
 
13500294:steves_nuts said:
Fuck the bunch they are the shittest skiers how are they even famous?? the SLVSH game made me want to vomit how can you call a hand drag 180 sitting on your bindings a fucking trick FUCK THE BUNCH
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kick rocks you nutbag
 
13498407:.Asain-Skiier said:
I try to ski like them, they use the whole mountain as a playground and it's rad.
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I don't know about that. If you want to see someone "making the whole mountain a playground" go watch The Troupe.

I personally think it's cool that the bunch is having fun and stuff, that's what skiing is all about, but calling them "the future of skiing"? I don't think so... They occasionally do some cool stuff, but really 90% of their new edits are just filler. Basically, the bunch may be "the future of skiing" for the common person (just trying to have fun), but for professional skiing I feel like more all terrain skiers like The Troupe, Burrlapz, and The Big Pic are a more accurate prediction.
 
13546031:Surfboard said:
I don't know about that. If you want to see someone "making the whole mountain a playground" go watch The Troupe.

I personally think it's cool that the bunch is having fun and stuff, that's what skiing is all about, but calling them "the future of skiing"? I don't think so... They occasionally do some cool stuff, but really 90% of their new edits are just filler. Basically, the bunch may be "the future of skiing" for the common person (just trying to have fun), but for professional skiing I feel like more all terrain skiers like The Troupe, Burrlapz, and The Big Pic are a more accurate prediction.
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your not wrong, but if skiing is really gonna grow we need people who are "the future" on all different levels in the streets, backyards, resorts, halfpipes, and big mtns so if people get bored or reach the skill ceiling of one they can move on to another

thanks to the bunch everytime I see a random pile of scrap stuff now I think of ways I could set it up as a jib when we get like 3 inches of snow. Travelling circus definitely set the standard with pvc rails and now the bunch are setting it somewhere even more accessible to the average kid who has an oil drum in their backyard and can do slashes on snowmaking whales at their home hill, and I think thats rad
 
13546031:Surfboard said:
I don't know about that. If you want to see someone "making the whole mountain a playground" go watch The Troupe.

I personally think it's cool that the bunch is having fun and stuff, that's what skiing is all about, but calling them "the future of skiing"? I don't think so... They occasionally do some cool stuff, but really 90% of their new edits are just filler. Basically, the bunch may be "the future of skiing" for the common person (just trying to have fun), but for professional skiing I feel like more all terrain skiers like The Troupe, Burrlapz, and The Big Pic are a more accurate prediction.
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Have you ever skied with or watched the bunch ski in person? Theyre all over the place surfing around and popping crazy butters all the time. Their shit is nuts. I totally get what youre saying but the bunch looks at the mountain in a different way. It really is their playground. They find out how to make a feature out of something that I would never even make a second look at.
 
13462385:McLS said:
I don't even know if the people above are trolling or not.

@op, you said in vid that most of what the bunch does isn't mind-blowing. Maybe we have very different views, but this edit right here (woulda been my all time favourite if the filming was a bit better, and especially a better song...) is made of 100% of bangers. Seriously. More than half of this stuff is totally new, and has more style than Delorme and young Dumont put together.

[video]https://vimeo.com/127065187[/video]I mean what the fuck. Everything in that edit is pure creativity mixed with style and wizardry.

The bunch, imo, is the best thing to ever happen to freeskiing in the past few years. Sure, a trip 10 with a mute is impressive, but I never really liked the spin more flip more aspect of freeskiing, brought by comps. I'm all for comps, gets skiers sponsored, money, but to me it's a different sport. Being able to land a slopestyle run perfectly, with back to back doubles and perfectly executed pretz 4 outs on any given weather is impressive, and I admire all those who do it. But to me, it shouldn't be called freeskiing anymore, but gymnastic skiing (you get the idea). There is still an element of style in comps, but most of the time even grabs are executed in order to get more points, depending on the difficulty of the grab.

I was never in freeskiing for this shit. Maybe because I'm more of an all mountain skier, leaning towards big bc lines rather than huge park kickers. The bunch is bringing back the style, the creativity, that started freestyle skiing. And they're taking it to another level of awesomeness. Yes, to me a massive butter 3 to tail pressed rail slide is MUCH more enjoyable to watch than a sw dub 12. What the bunch does is exactly why I love freeskiing. The park is their canvas, and they'll paint whatever the fuck they feel that looks and feels the best to them, and I feel exactly the same way.

I feel sorry for those who say that they're getting too much love/exposure/sponsors when we rarely see dubs in their edits, and that most of what they do isn't that impressive technically (you guys must be real good too, cos half the shit they do I have no idea how they pull it off), if for you freeskiing is all about the spins, the amount of air, yeah, I feel sorry that you're not enjoying what freeskiing really is.

The bunch is the Candide of park that I've been waiting for. If there is maybe one aspect that I can criticise is their perpetrating of the g look, leaning towards the hood crew attitude. Don't get me wrong, I love to shred the park in XXL, trying to look as steezy as possible, but it's just sad that people outside of the freeskiing world will automatically think "ah, fucking pot smokers dressing like clowns and blasting horrible rap thinking what they do is cool". But if that's really what the bunch likes to do, and not just an appearance they give themselves, then fine by me.

Freeskiing is too damn good to let appearances be important. Leave that shit to skateboarders.
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where can i get that Tall T?
 
It really bothers me when people dislike things because lots of other people like it. In my opinion the term "overhyped" is a crock of shit. A group doesn't have a ton of control over how many people like them, and that's a terrible way to base your opinion. its one thing to dislike someones style, or not understand how others do but disliking people more because others get exited by what they do and you don't is wack.
 
I'm over the bunch. There's only so many butters and swivels and shit I can watch before I pull the plug.
 
Dang know one knows SHITTT. You need to see these guys in person to be able to fully judge ANYONES skiing. Yeah you pick and choose what you like to throw in an edit but wait until you see how damn good and fucking consistent they are in person. I skied with LSM for most of the day yesterday in keystones pre season park following him/ matching lines. The guy is fucking unreal....Anything he can do, he can do it the opposite direction and make it look just as good. Every trick he wants to do he makes it happen basically first try no matter how technical. And yeah to have a certain style doing a certain trick IS ACTUALLY TECHNICAL and difficult if you are trying to make it look a certain way even if its not the hardest trick in the book. The point is it doesnt have to be a hard trick but making it look exactly how you want it to look is difficult and thats exactly what they are doing... Yeah i love the bunch and my skiing is influenced heavily by them so this is bias but seriously they are amazing fucking skiers who can do some fucked up shit on the dinkiest features. If thats not skill/ technicality idk what is.
 
13546459:egg. said:
Dang know one knows SHITTT. You need to see these guys in person to be able to fully judge ANYONES skiing. Yeah you pick and choose what you like to throw in an edit but wait until you see how damn good and fucking consistent they are in person. I skied with LSM for most of the day yesterday in keystones pre season park following him/ matching lines. The guy is fucking unreal....Anything he can do, he can do it the opposite direction and make it look just as good. Every trick he wants to do he makes it happen basically first try no matter how technical. And yeah to have a certain style doing a certain trick IS ACTUALLY TECHNICAL and difficult if you are trying to make it look a certain way even if its not the hardest trick in the book. The point is it doesnt have to be a hard trick but making it look exactly how you want it to look is difficult and thats exactly what they are doing... Yeah i love the bunch and my skiing is influenced heavily by them so this is bias but seriously they are amazing fucking skiers who can do some fucked up shit on the dinkiest features. If thats not skill/ technicality idk what is.
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lol at my second word typo

probably a lot more in there tehe
 
13500294:steves_nuts said:
Fuck the bunch they are the shittest skiers how are they even famous?? the SLVSH game made me want to vomit how can you call a hand drag 180 sitting on your bindings a fucking trick FUCK THE BUNCH
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You need Jesus.. son ...the bunch are awesome. . A little to hipster try hard sometimes. . But action sports are about being your own individual person and doing tricks the way you want.. hence why we call it FREEskiing..
 
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