One thing I really like about the Karma System

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KRASHED

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When I go into a thread and read the replies the first thing I notice is their karma, not their post count. Bolding the Karma percentage was a great idea. props
 
I really agree with you. If I'm trying to get opinions in a thread, I'm going to take people more seriously if they have a good postcount, whether they have 50 posts of 20,000. Some of the most legit people rarely post, and then get flamed for being n00bs, and some of the highest posters, have been here the shortest amount of time, and might not know what they're taling about. Really nice feature.
 
It's just made me notice that because more people hate than give props, 9/10 people on the site are under 50. I try to give props when deserved. Even if I just think someone was easy to work with while buying/selling, I up their karma.
 
the x/10 rating system is horrible. I would much prefer a point based system where i can reward a user for making good posts and punish them for stupid ones.

With the current system I can only reward people so much. Lets say someone makes a cool post. I'll bump them up to 6/10. Then I see another one. 7/10 and so on. Once 10/10 hits I can't give them any more positive karma.
 
I will bring that point to the attention of Doug and Paul. Anyway, we plan to test and try stuff until it does help the community and until most of the users are happy with it. And thanks for the suggestion.
 
and I could create 100 accounts and rate myself 10/10.

Sure its more work but still possible.

That could be solved by giving people a certain number of karma ratings per day, maybe based on the time they've been on the site, their current karma, or whatever other criteria you want. It would be a little more programming work but it would for sure make a better system (in my opinion) and thats whats the most important.

 
But whatever, I think that we will work on something that will allow mods to see which users are alias or not.
 
I've already got that fun little tool; gotta love bringing out the admin panel on the noobs :)
 
its a small factor in a huge formula.. I doubt anyone will be able to manipulate it like that and if they did it should be obvious.
 
but would that REALLY be worth it?

I mean does it really matter if someone takes your post seriously? if your post contains a decent contribution to the thread then I don't think your karma matters.
 
"As beat as denim crowbars..." Hah that shit is priceless!

Look guys I think the karma system is super close to being what we all want it to be, its just going to take some tweaking to cross that barrier. Couple of things:

-The reason you can only give so much karma is to make it WAY harder to cheat the karma system. If one member can only give so much, it prevents aliases from fucking the whole thing up (see SSE)

-The karma is NOT only about the forums! Remember, there are many other things being rated here, the goal is to rate you as an overall member, not just a poster. Forums make up for only 46% of the traffic of newschoolers, there's a lot more to this site.

Both of these things are in place so that karma can eventually feed member of the month. Member of the month would be chosen from top rated karma people, measured around the site and be given some sort of super cool prize.

Thats the idea at least... and I think that we're going to get this figured out.

 
To be fully honest I don't take the karma system too seriously (yet). Ive

seen some members who i respect with ratings below 50 and I see other

members I have very little respect for with high ratings because

they've donated in the past have pics or something. Its a great idea, i just don't know if the karma ratings accurately reflect members quite yet
 
If you see that, rate those members accordingly then. Its the only way to balance out the system.
 
I did think a lot about your critique of the Karma system. The way you see it, it makes a lot of sense. But I will bring you the point of view I just got there.

Let's say that someday, somebody do a nice trick tip thread in the forums. Everybody would rate him up. Then the next day, action/reaction, he would see his Karma increased by a few points. But the next day this guys is a total douchebag about how skiing is more skiing when you do it in a certain way. So, with the actual system, at that exact moment you are going to rate his Karma. You would have a feedback of how you rated him last time. Then you would have the choice, to retract you previous rating and bring him to 0 or just re-think why you did rated him in the past and maybe, now, you would rate him down but not to 0.

Pretty much, it means more power to the actual vote you do "right now". And the Karma can fluctuate up and down depending on the latest action you just did on this site. Instead of having your vote piled to the 10 others votes you previously did to him. Which is piled with the other 10 votes of 200 persons who did rated him. It means more power to "now", when you read the thread. Because it's a lot less diluted.
 
I don't have much explanations than : "Because that's what the algorithm gives you, right now." As said previously, this algorithm will change.
 
wouldn't that just defeat the purpose of the secret formula?

I'm pretty sure it's just about being a good ns member...whatever that means. high rated videos, pictures, posts, maybe?
 
You got it!

For some reason people on here love to cheat the system as much as is possible. So we basically made it super hard for any one account to affect Karma. You get karma from doing many things across the site, and for member-member ratings you can only give someone so much karma. So if you like them, give them a 10, but thats all you'll ever give them.

It relies on the idea that good members will recieve higher ratings from many different sources, so that you can't cheat one metric.

That being said, we do need to adjust the formula a little, but its getting close. The formula will always be secret, as we don't want anyone to figure out how to cheat it.

Remember as well, that a 50 karma rating doesn't mean that you've got low karma, it just means that you've got average karma.

We're working on it... changes to come soon.

 
seems like 50 is better than average for lots of people on here? there are heaps of legit members under 50 while there are some people who might post more often or maybe be more popular because they have funny stuff to say, who have higher karma ratings.
 
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