One Switch Up is Tasteful

stokedelic

stokedelic

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Title says it all, can we stop with the 5 swaps on a rail? I’ve found in my studies that one swap is sufficient in 99% of unsponsored cases. We’re greasin a pole, not composing some lame ass balance beam routine.

This does not apply to presses or surface swaps on handrails for some reason. Every test I ran came back inconclusive or straight up negative. If anyone can find that double nose press b dog did on the quad kink this year please post.
 
On Luke Votaws 2 Planker Pod he said the reason why he does tricks like that is because they’re the hardest and he wants to do hard tricks. A lot of skiers are completely oblivious to the fact that theres so many ways to do hard tricks on rails that don’t include spinning more. I think its honestly just a misunderstanding for a lot of ppl.

I still never see ppl ollie or nollie into their swaps. I think fs tail tap at 90 is sick. Proper ollie back 2’s, actually doing a nosebutter instead of reverting, etc. Theres so many ways to make rail skiing harder
 
One switch up, always on one leg

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14532853:Slowbro said:
Double swaps on longer rails are cool.
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I agree. To be fair I have seen some cool triple swaps too but its very rare that they look good. Fs bs ollie to sw is like the sickest dub swap imo. Always looks good. If you ollie out of any trick it makes it look 100x more sick because it shows you have control

**This post was edited on Apr 28th 2023 at 11:54:24am
 
If you can’t do one swap with no 270 out on a rail/tube while making it look good ur just doin it wrong lol. Less is more.
 
14532823:BLandz said:
On Luke Votaws 2 Planker Pod he said the reason why he does tricks like that is because they’re the hardest and he wants to do hard tricks. A lot of skiers are completely oblivious to the fact that theres so many ways to do hard tricks on rails that don’t include spinning more. I think its honestly just a misunderstanding for a lot of ppl.

I still never see ppl ollie or nollie into their swaps. I think fs tail tap at 90 is sick. Proper ollie back 2’s, actually doing a nosebutter instead of reverting, etc. Theres so many ways to make rail skiing harder
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That kid is such a fuck, so narrow minded on what “hard tricks” are and you nailed it on the head with what u said about alternative ways to make rail skiing harder.
 
14532819:Icant_kfed said:
5 surface swaps maybe, but if someone’s doing a proper bs or fs 5 times on a rail that’s pretty sick
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bad take imo. I think surface swaps are the proper way to do swaps
 
14532869:Christian_Bale said:
On a related note, fsfsf2 has got to be one of my least favorite tricks to see
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oh my god I'm so glad I'm not the only one. I hate that trick so much and when I said that to my friends while we were skiing one time they all looked at me like I had just killed somebody or something
 
14532871:Rparr said:
oh my god I'm so glad I'm not the only one. I hate that trick so much and when I said that to my friends while we were skiing one time they all looked at me like I had just killed somebody or something
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fs, bs, back 2 is dank though
 
Multiple swaps are cool when you have some sliding in between swaps where your momentum stops. If you don't lock in after the swap then its kinda like a revert idk
 
14532892:Str8Chedda said:
Agreed but on the other hand Siver throws DOWN with his crazy swaps
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Siver throws down but multiple front swaps is not impressive. Relatively easy to do front swap front swap after front swap. Doesn’t showcase any skill it just looks dumb asf lol.
 
14532869:Christian_Bale said:
On a related note, fsfsf2 has got to be one of my least favorite tricks to see
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Siver Voll special

Edit: fuck ppl said this already later in the thread. Disregard

**This post was edited on Apr 28th 2023 at 6:27:18pm
 
14532823:BLandz said:
On Luke Votaws 2 Planker Pod he said the reason why he does tricks like that is because they’re the hardest and he wants to do hard tricks. A lot of skiers are completely oblivious to the fact that theres so many ways to do hard tricks on rails that don’t include spinning more. I think its honestly just a misunderstanding for a lot of ppl.
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When i was younger i had a similar mindset where i wanted to do hard switch up combos that i had never really seen before. But what it comes down to is adding another swap really, which at a certain point you should just learn something else, like a lip 270 or something, where adding a swap isn't really learning a trick. I still think that dub swaps 270s out combos are cool, depends which ones, but triple swaps not really most of the time, depends on the rail and how it's done. At the end of the day, skiing is a visual thing and complicated tricks are impressive but hardly ever cool to watch or stylish.

Also, if you ski a lot of park rails or pvcs and are into hard tech tricks, your perspective will be very narrow. That's when street comes into play and you should take those skills to the streets, and hitting more and more streets and watching street parts will open your mind to what looks cool and what doesn't.
 
One swap per one minute of footy, golden ratio.

The switch up is a building block for rail skiing. To invest a career into scissor locked ballerina spins, is whack AF, a d I called it the way it was a decade ago. The jocks of the sport needed comp tricks to train and the anti-freestyle was forced down our throats...some quit, some just kept it freestyle.

The idea of buttering and pressing was toyed with by the best, but was never supported as anything more than goofing around. Ollie's made the team at freeskier blush....

blunt-sameway270, tail-nose switch ups, butter blunts... The future of jibbing is still behind a locked door.
 
14532965:fredyferl said:
When i was younger i had a similar mindset where i wanted to do hard switch up combos that i had never really seen before. But what it comes down to is adding another swap really, which at a certain point you should just learn something else, like a lip 270 or something, where adding a swap isn't really learning a trick. I still think that dub swaps 270s out combos are cool, depends which ones, but triple swaps not really most of the time, depends on the rail and how it's done. At the end of the day, skiing is a visual thing and complicated tricks are impressive but hardly ever cool to watch or stylish.

Also, if you ski a lot of park rails or pvcs and are into hard tech tricks, your perspective will be very narrow. That's when street comes into play and you should take those skills to the streets, and hitting more and more streets and watching street parts will open your mind to what looks cool and what doesn't.
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Thought about this all day and this is with no doubt one of the most based responses I’ve ever seen on this site
 
14532823:BLandz said:
On Luke Votaws 2 Planker Pod he said the reason why he does tricks like that is because they’re the hardest and he wants to do hard tricks. A lot of skiers are completely oblivious to the fact that theres so many ways to do hard tricks on rails that don’t include spinning more. I think its honestly just a misunderstanding for a lot of ppl.

I still never see ppl ollie or nollie into their swaps. I think fs tail tap at 90 is sick. Proper ollie back 2’s, actually doing a nosebutter instead of reverting, etc. Theres so many ways to make rail skiing harder
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i can back this ! i was playing around with fs nollie swaps, and boy this made me step back and think i never thought i'd say fs swap is hard. there is plenty of standout skiers going down this path recently and i thoroughly enjoy it.
 
I'm having a hard time visualizing nollie swap... A mule kick swap is something will wesson would do... Did.

It is possible to blind swap from nose press to nose press. Keep it freestyle!

14533048:CoachTrifes said:
i can back this ! i was playing around with fs nollie swaps, and boy this made me step back and think i never thought i'd say fs swap is hard. there is plenty of standout skiers going down this path recently and i thoroughly enjoy it.
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14532859:weatcoast said:
That kid is such a fuck, so narrow minded on what “hard tricks” are and you nailed it on the head with what u said about alternative ways to make rail skiing harder.
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he's a teenager ofc he's narrow minded, it takes a lot of experience to have good vision and trick selection

Jackson wells used to huck quads look at him now, it's part of the process
 
14533076:thankagaper said:
I'm having a hard time visualizing nollie swap... A mule kick swap is something will wesson would do... Did.

It is possible to blind swap from nose press to nose press. Keep it freestyle!
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Its called a noseslide not a nosepress. A nosepress is when you go 5050, a noseslide is a railslide on your noses.
 
5050 nosepress on a rail?

ROFL, at will wesson tube tricks...

I can nose press/slide swap to nose press/slide ... Did it ten years ago and since then, no one else has...

I will continue telling you what tricks are called.

Go!

14533121:BLandz said:
Its called a noseslide not a nosepress. A nosepress is when you go 5050, a noseslide is a railslide on your noses.
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14533218:thankagaper said:
Acceptance Issues...

while you are working on it, JSkis , are whackAF.

Get out there and butter into a press.../slide,

Go!

Now!
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Is it really that whack if they are some of the best park skis on the market rn?
 
14533303:Farmville420 said:
Is it really that whack if they are some of the best park skis on the market rn?
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I bet they ride well I just don’t think they really nail it with graphics, and neither with brand image. I get BIG TIME Gilson vibes from them.
 
Cool! Now that I know the majority of us don't like a million swaps, I dont have to learn them, and can just focus on making one look good lol
 
14533307:weatcoast said:
I bet they ride well I just don’t think they really nail it with graphics, and neither with brand image. I get BIG TIME Gilson vibes from them.
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They are literally founded by a mt rushmore originator of freeskiing. you are tripping. also this graphic is amazing
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14533307:weatcoast said:
I bet they ride well I just don’t think they really nail it with graphics, and neither with brand image. I get BIG TIME Gilson vibes from them.
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Marketing is whatever, hes just tryna sell them. Cool marketing doesn't always mean a good product or a good company lol

-stacked as shit team

-amazing skis

-gives a street skier a pro model

Idk what I'm missing but the company does everything else a good ski company would lol

The skis are like $500 if you buy the "blemished" ones lol. I promise you the marketing will mean nothing the day you actually ride them lol
 
14533489:Farmville420 said:
Marketing is whatever, hes just tryna sell them. Cool marketing doesn't always mean a good product or a good company lol

-stacked as shit team

-amazing skis

-gives a street skier a pro model

Idk what I'm missing but the company does everything else a good ski company would lol

The skis are like $500 if you buy the "blemished" ones lol. I promise you the marketing will mean nothing the day you actually ride them lol
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yup got hooked up with a pair of the vacations and I freaking love em
 
jason levinthal is a snowblader, that hates the fact that his dream was whack, and had to sell skis for a living...everything he tried to do, FAILED, because hes whack. line skis has been a joke since 2000 , and yeah, we grew up a town away from each other, in ny

14533303:Farmville420 said:
Is it really that whack if they are some of the best park skis on the market rn?
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