Once we are done in Afghanistan and Iraq

cause god only knows the USA is the only country that's ever thought of/actually intervened in african affairs....
 
Not saying that, but you have over 700 military bases in over 130 countries around the world.

hmmmm wonder why America's economy is shit. Keep buildin that empire!
 
Perpetual war on terror. A war that we can't and never will win. A bullshit excuse to continue our policies around the world while taking away the freedoms away from the citizens of our country.

This war isn't going to end. The headlines keep rolling it, the situation at home keeps getting worse. People are dying overseas for no reason. I understand you want to be a hero. I know the stories from relatives that were in the wars. You want that too... But jesus, open your eyes. This war is a waste of life for no reason. There is no real goal that can or will be accomplished. Hope everyone makes it back safely.
 
No please research the economical benefits and repercussions of our military operations around the world. Then tell me if it is the reason why our economy is in the shape it is right now.

 
Although his post was meant to provoke emotional reaction and very poorly displayed he is pretty much on the money.
American foreign policy for the past few decades has been extremely incompetent. We know now that our exacerbation and exploitation of Islamic fundamentalism in the Middle East has come back to bite us in the ass, big time. The logic of the way we see the Middle East can be summed up into a game in which we use the "enemy of my enemy is my friend" philosophy.
Nearly every country we have ever propped up to fight one another (Afghanistan vs Russia, Iran vs Iraq, Saudi Arabia in the Gulf War, Pakistan in the Afghan conflict) has turned their back on us somehow. Yet we continue to push the boundaries of how far we can exploit and what next country we can welcome to our puppet alliance: NATO.
It would be nice if everyone could realize this. A lot of the world does, but most Americans are still oblivious to why we have terrorism and why a lot of the world heavily scrutinizes the American government. When it boils down to it who really pays? It's the common people. The ones trapped in the consistent tug of war for regional power. The ones who died in 9/11 had nothing to do with our decisions to use Saudi Arabia's proximity for basing rights only to anger the general population. The Afghan citizens suffered for our opposition of Russia.
I am optimistic of my generation. The more I talk with people my age the more I begin to realize the true history of geopolitics is coming around.
 
alright drop the condescending shit right now.

you posted twice in a row with vague, antagonistic replies with no substance (par for the course with you though i guess), then tell ME to do my research (on what even? you didnt even offer an argument)

our country has bases all over the fucking world, and people disagree with that. it's also undeniable that it can't do anything to help our financial crisis to keep trying to build an empire when we've failed at it in many ways. i'm pretty sure he didn't say it was the sole reason for our financial crisis..

get fucked. people that argue like you do are part of what makes arguing politics pointless and infuriating
 
and if you think you're going to sway any opinions to your perspective on shit (which is out the window anyway) you're not going to have much luck with douchebag responses like this. all i asked was for you to elaborate on a super vague reply. what a prick
 
The military industrial complex is the driving force for all of our wars, banksters finance both sides of the war make huge money on the loans, and we here just see it as Uncle Sam kicking Terrorist ass. The problem is that we have no just reason for war, yet it continues to perpetuate. In America we barely have money to pave our roads or rebuild bridges, but we did just develop the F-18 fighter pilot which costs 60 million dollars a plane.
 
if only you knew just the level of shittiness in the Middle East for every day citizens.... before we stepped in.
 
I hear you and agree with you but i fucking hate "The military industrial complex". It's become such a soundbite. Every time I hear somebody say that I think of alex jones saying that 2000 times in his videos.
 
haha alright man.. clearly the increasing # of US military bases across the world is the leading factor to our financial crisis.. certainly not irresponsible CEOs buying bad real estate debt and then selling it off 10 fold...

you in school yet dude?
 
I think what he was trying to say was, or at least what I'm trying to say is, spending hundreds of billions of dollars (possibly trillions) on an overseas empire that pisses the world off isn't good foreign policy. As well, spending billions of dollars to blow up bridges overseas and then paying to rebuild them when your infrastructure at home is dwindling, and your country is putting up HUGE deficits that are completely unsustainable, is poor economic policy. No it didn't create the 2008 financial crises, but it did create:

This:

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and, this:

(insert pic of twin towers crumbling - too graphic)
 
there is an ex-militant that supplies the security agencies about the attacks. Call him a mole. He told the US when the packages were to be sent, when to be sent and what the packages are. He did not know where exactly the explosives were to be stored.
 
yeah, ive gone to school, where they taught us to read and not be a complete idiot.

read my post and see where i explicitly said that neither of us claimed that our foreign policy was the sole or main reason for our financial crisis. we said it doesnt help.

this argument is over (and never began), you and Qmcbrew can run along and keep getting offended every time someone says something critical about the US's military situation that we pour money into, see if i give a shit
 
haha obviously that would be useless for me to do.. no big deal man, i just hate it when people blame the military for stuff. sorry for me getting defensive of something im a member of?? kinda the same thing if someone was shitting on NS to you.. can you blame me?
 
i hope it never happens.

although, with their one child policy, they have created a society where the male sex is in the majority because none of the families want to have a girl. this means there will be a lot of disenchanted bachelors angry at the world with nothing to do. so they are single, not much family ties left, so they go join the military for a sense of meaning. their military is 20 years in the making and it all started with the one child policy. but we never knew.
 
going to africa is a maybe. my dad is stationed in germany, i am here also. and i am in the place where they do everything about africa that they dont need to be there. they say that there is such high terriosim in africa that they dont want to fuck up another place like they did with iraq and ect.... thats what i have heard.

* also, my dad retured for his last time from afgan. so happy.
 
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