ON3P Jeffrey – Best Ski Ever?

Capurnicus

Capurnicus

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Title says it all. I got a pair last season based on the dimensions alone, and I must say GODDAMN. Those guys at ON3P hit this one outta the park. I've literally been waiting years for someone to make a ski with these dimensions and rocker profile, and I'm just real stoked a ski manufacturer finally came through for me.

You may ask yourself, where the hell does capurnicus even ski at and how do I know what he even does with these skis? How do I know this isn't stupid advice from a retard. Well let me tell you, I am kinda retarded but I also skied literally everything on these fuckers. Every single condition you can have on a mountain or city or whatever you call the muddy fucking mess that is Vermont in May. I skied bullet proof ice on a 300 vertical hill. I skied 40 days of park at Mount Snow. I skied champagne pillows at Brighton and jumped off everything in sight at Alta (minus divingboard and those other big ones). I skied true sierra cement at Mammoth in late March and slid handrails in Boston when it pooped snow. I honestly put these skis on my feet and subjected them to anything and everything for 6 months.

Now you may ask yourself “how can one pair of skis do all that?” The answer is I don’t know, but they did. The most amazing part is not only did they suffice in all conditions, they fucking SLAYED in all conditions. I’m one hundred percent serious when I say they were the best park skis AND the best pow skis I’ve ever ridden. On a pristine 24 inch pow day in Utah, I returned to the car to shed my Benchetlers and grab the Jeffreys (no offense Chris, you’re skis aren’t bad). On a sunny park day in Vermont, I headed back to turn in my Kung Fujas’s for my beloved Jeffreys.

At this point you’re likely thinking “this kid is either dumb or high”. I may be both, but hear me out on this one. I’ve been riding wider skis in the park for a bit, so I kinda had that one under my belt, but I’m telling y’all this is the perfect park width. Landings are super stable on the 110 waist, but they’re not at all hard to throw around quick even when spinning lipslide into down rails. The rocker profile and lightweight construction actually make for a surprisingly agile yet stable park ski. In the pow I expected to sink a bit more than I otherwise would on my bentchets, but was pleasantly surprised to find that they floated wonderfully but weren’t at all a pain to rip bumps after the storm got skied out.

I’m still a little confused as to how they managed to kill so hard in such various conditions, but I was definitely stoked on not having to carry two pairs of skis around the country. I have a theory: the more you ski on one single pair of skis, the better you ski. When you can rely on a single pair of skis for everyday on the mountain, they essentially become an extension of your body and that’s a beautiful thing.

In the sake of shameless self-promotion and to prove I’m not completely full of shit, check me riding my lovely Jeffreys at about 1:18 - vimeo.com/59716972

 
I agree with everythig you just said.

I too, skied these fuckers in every single condition, except urban haha. But california powder, colorado powder, steamboat's golorious powder, icy shit days. Killed everything.

My next pair of skis will probably be another jeffrey....
 
i cant afford them this year but im saving for next year, i cant wait already, i rode my friends and fell in love
 
I have a biased opinion, but I will say that if I could only ever have one pair of ON3Ps it would be the Jeffrey.
 
Hit the nail on the head. They really are fun everywhere, from East Coast groomers to spring Utah pow and everything in between, if I'm ever just looking to have a good time skiing I break out my Jefferys. We got almost 3ft of powder here in CT (unheard of at the time) last year and most of the mountains around here aren't steep enough to handle that, my Jefferys were the only things that could float enough to make it down without straight-lining backseat, I was able to slash turn and play around in the powder, at the end of the day everyone was tired and trying to figure out why powder is considered to be so much fun while I was just giggling down the hill all day, haha. In my opinion they really are the greatest ski of all time, and I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels that way, haha.
 
I've literally never seen a bad review for any ON3P ski, I really have to try these out, but have a feeling if I do I'll just not be able to live without a pair haha.
 
I've owned both the 11/12 186cm Jeffrey and 12/13 186cm Jeffrey and I know that the 12/13 186cm Jeffrey is the most fun ski I've been on. (Owned: JJ's/Bentchetlers/Super 7's/S3's/old Obsethed/Billy Goats/Caylors/J-mo's/Wrenegades/Viciks/Pillowfights...etc, etc, etc.)

Doesn't matter what the conditions are, or where or what I am riding; I know the Jeffrey's will be a good call and they'll make riding that day a fucking blast.
 
I've been saying it ever since I got my hands on the 12/13 proto. If I had to own just one ski. It would be the Jeffery.
 
Griffon's. I used to be all about the race stock pivots and I've got plenty laying around but after tearing my ACL a couple years ago I switched over to the Griffons and have been very pleased with their function, not to mention they're much lighter.
 
Seriously? I found my griffons unsafe, I may have had a bad pair, but the fact that the rear binding snapped off while I was going down some pretty steep stuff without severe pressure led me to never buying them again, although they were nice and light I'll give you that.
 
Where have you guys been generally mounting your Jeffreys?

I have the 186 mounted dead centre with fks 18

I found myself regularly skiing lines with soft/powder conditions in the mornings and the park in the afternoon almost every weekend this year and it was such a treat to never have to switch skis at lunch. I also skied them 18 days on the glacier at momentum this summer and they were just the best thing ever when it game to dealing with mass amounts of slush and stomping high speed landings in total soup.

And they are totally bomb proof! I have maybe 2 edge cracks and one tiny top sheet chip. I have never seen a ski that isnt capped construction not have the top sheet start to peel after a few months of skiing. They will easily last another season for me and I havent had a ski that has done that in years.
 
I mounted FKS140's on the recommended line and wouldn't ever change that. I don't ski much park anymore, so they work great for what little park I do ride, yet perfectly setup for all mountain destruction.
 
More than 6" fresh/leftovers, and I will definitely agree with you that I'd be on my BG's over my Jeffrey's.

Fucking around any other day, the Jeffery's are more playful which ultimately equals more fun overall.
 
I will agree the Billy Goat is a better powder ski. That is all.

I am very stoked to start working on the Billy Goat Jib/RES Jib variant.
 
shit, after the thread i made to help me choose some all moutn skis, i was positive about buying the jeronimos (kinda fell in love with their graphics too) and now this^^? Wat should i do NS, considering ill be doing more groomer+park than powder and wana be able to butter a bit??
 
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anyone who's skiied them care to compare the jeffrey to the jeronimo or filthy rich for park? and or hte jeffrey to the caylor in powder? is the jeffery as surfey/loose feeling as the jeffrey?

im re-doing my quiver this year, thinking about a 100 waistish park ski, cause i always like a lil wider park ski. and a more powder oriented ski. so i was thinking something like jeronimo's for park and caylors or pillowfights for powder.

but id almost consider something more along the lines of the filthy rich for park and the jeffrey for powder.
 
Among the skis you mentioned I've owned 10/11 181cm J-mo's, 10/11 191cm Caylors, 11/12 186cm Jeffrey's, 12/13 186cm Jeffrey's, and 11/12 196cm Pillowfights, so hopefully I can help you out a little bit.

I have used the J-mo's and Caylors as a 2 ski quiver for the PNW. The Caylors are an amazingly versatile ski; I used them on far more days than I ever would have imagined. They obviously excel in the deep snow, but even with the lack of camber underfoot, I found them more than manageable on the hardpack. They were too fun and too stable not to grab in the morning. The Caylors are the only ski that I regret selling... I then used the J-mo's as my "mini Caylors" on the days that were obviously not appropriate for the Caylors. Because ON3P did not offer a 186cm J-mo back in 11/12, I did find the J-mo's to be a bit short for my size and liking; but overall they were an extremely lively and playful ski. All ON3P skis that I've been on cater to riders that drive the skis with a more aggressive style. Their skis thrive on this aggressiveness and really come alive; however you don't want to get backseat on some of their skis such as Wrens/BG's/etc. as they will take you down hard.

I have also used the 12/13 Jeffrey's and Pillowfights as a 2 ski quiver and found they filled most of my needs with those 2 skis alone. Obviously the Pillowfights didn't see nearly as many days as the Jeffrey's, but again, the Pillowfights were far more versatile than I would have expected. They made 3" of dust on crust feel bottomless and anything above that feel epic. I've had them in over 40" of fresh and I can only sum that experience up with sex, pure sex. Regarding the Jeffrey's, I think you can get a pretty good feel for how they hold up for various locations, conditions, and riding preferences in this thread. But I will say that the 12/13 Jeffrey is a one-ski, do-it-all, and then some kind of ski. I have yet to find conditions they didn't make skiing enjoyable in; besides super icy moguls, but I don't enjoy icy moguls anyways.

If you are going to do a 2 ski quiver, the J-mo's and Caylors, or Jeffrey's and Pillowfights would cover all your bases. Although having a more dedicated park ski such as the FR combined with the Caylors would also make an awesome 2 ski quiver. You have many potential combinations that you couldn't go wrong with, but I would advise against a 2 ski quiver of Jeffrey's and Caylors. There is a ton of overlap there and you'd have some tough choices to make in the morning of which skis to grab on any given day. The Caylors and Jeffrey's are very different skis, but can handle the same conditions very similarly. You'll just have to decide where your needs cross paths with your wants; if you need a park specific ski (FR) or just want one; and if you need a very pow specific ski (Pillowfights) or just want one.

Hangover is getting the best of me now, so I'm done. Hopefully this is somewhat coherent and helps. Let me know if you have any questions that I can possibly answer.
 
Alright thanks for that, super helpful. I guess I'm having a hard time deciding if I want a totally dedicated powder ski, or a powder ski that's fun in the park too. I'm pretty set on a 100ish wide park ski. For me that's the ideal width.

I loved taking my hellbents into the park, they actually killed it. And the Caylors seem pretty similar to those. What's the flex like? They seem pretty middle ground from what I've heard.

Did you ever think the pillow fights were too wide even in powder, that's a huge ski, seems like it could be a bit too much and kinda get in the way.
 
The Caylors are on the medium/stiff side of things. The tips/tails hand flex softer than they ski, and they are very stable underfoot where it counts. That's not to say they aren't playful, but I prefer skis that don't flap or waver at speed and the Caylors were exactly that. Fun, floaty, poppy, and stable; exactly what we need out here in the PNW.

Sounds like the J-mo's and Caylors would be a good setup, or J-mo's and Pillowfights too if you wanted the very specific powder ski.

I never once had a complaint about the Pillowfights, ever. They are surprisingly light given their length and width due to the carbon layup. The softer flex on the tips/tails and short turn radius helps keep them nimble too. My pair is from the first year so they had 90cm effective edge or something super short, so they pivot and maneuver as you'd expect from a ski with that much rocker. Way fun, can't wait to get back on them again this winter.
 
hahaha yes! perfect, but i have to agree. i thought the same exact thing when i got my bluesteeles. i used them day in and day out, deep pow days and slushy park days, even urban. They lasted 2 and a half seasons before i grew out of them, while i witnessed the kids i was skiing with go thorough 2 pairs of skis each before i even had to retire my trusty bluesteeles. After reading this review i can safely say i am TOO STOKED to be riding john kutchers jeffreys this year, and i will put them through hell and back and report back into this thread once complete mountain destruction has been achieved.
 
ON3P owners = best resource for knowing what the skis are like to live with. SIA and magazines tell you what they are like to briefly ride, but you guys never cease to impress me with your firsthand knowledge and experience you share with the community.
 
Really interested in this.

The question currently is whether to couple my jmos (a bit short for my size- so kind of a wide park/all mountain ski) with the bgs, bg tours, or caylors. But now I might have to wait to see this! Please hurry up haha
 
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