ON3P Jeffrey 100 vs ON3P Woodsman 100 vs Wildcat 101

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Quantumlag

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I'm trying to decide between these two skis. I broke a pair of lines (shocked face) and I'm going to replace them. I'm definitely an expert skier so I ski a lot of bumps, trees and also like blasting groomers. I haven't done much in the park, but I really want to learn. I currently have Stockli Stormrider 88s and Wildcat 108s. Out of these 3 skis, which should I choose/why?

ON3P Jeffrey 100

ON3P Woodsman 100

Moment Wildcat 101
 
I bought Jeffrey 100s a month ago, mounted griffon 13s on them and I love them so much, can’t speak about the woodsman or the wildcat I haven’t skied those, but I love my Jeffrey’s for all-mountain/park, if you’re gonna do more all mountain or like a stiffer more powerful ski I’d go with the woodsman instead of the Jeffrey, otherwise I’d 100% recommend the Jeffrey. Too bad the 100 doesn’t come with the green bases tho
 
topic:Quantumlag said:
I'm trying to decide between these two skis. I broke a pair of lines (shocked face) and I'm going to replace them. I'm definitely an expert skier so I ski a lot of bumps, trees and also like blasting groomers. I haven't done much in the park, but I really want to learn. I currently have Stockli Stormrider 88s and Wildcat 108s. Out of these 3 skis, which should I choose/why?

ON3P Jeffrey 100

ON3P Woodsman 100

Moment Wildcat 101
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Probably figure out what you prioritize first. That'll dictate whether you go a Jeffrey/Wildcat or a Woodsman. My guess is the Woodsman feel similar to your Wildcat 108 in a narrower platform. If you are wanting to learn park and have a ski to jump into the park a bit, but also whip around the mountain, the Jeff or Wildcat will be the answer. From all the reviews already posted about this a ton of folks rip all over the mountain on Jeff and Wildcats, but also dabble in the park. Some even use the Jeff as their park ski (I've already asked these types of questions in the past!). Between the Jeff and Wildcat I'd honestly figure out what company you'd rather support or what ski looks better to you. They are both incredible companies from what everyone has said.

FYI I have a pair of Jeffrey 100s in 181 with or without pivots for sale on here.
 
On3p Jeff 100. Love mine I rip all mtn and some park love how they ski. They are soon going to make most likely a Jeff 92 for the next season
 
All 3 skis are great.

The Jeffs are the most progressive, stiffish all mountain park ski. Strongest tail ime. Also the ski just wants to go FAST.

Wildcats are very slightly less progressive. Ime less stiff, especially in the tail. Waaaay better one hard groomers than the Jeff and better, ime, than the woodsman,

Woodmans are most directional, you can really push the tips comparatively. Feels "slower" than the Jeff, but not in a bad way. It's hard to explain, but basically the Jeff wants to striaghtline everything, the wildcats want to make a few turns and the woodsmans want all few more.

Which ski you want depends on what and where you'll be skiing, and how you want to ski it.

I'd say, if you like the wildcats and want a similar vibe get the smaller size.

If you want something more progressive and/or to charge extremely hard and/or to really get into the park go Jeff's.

From what you've said, it sounds like the woodsman ain't it.
 
14592069:apc.fr said:
All 3 skis are great.

The Jeffs are the most progressive, stiffish all mountain park ski. Strongest tail ime. Also the ski just wants to go FAST.

Wildcats are very slightly less progressive. Ime less stiff, especially in the tail. Waaaay better one hard groomers than the Jeff and better, ime, than the woodsman,

Woodmans are most directional, you can really push the tips comparatively. Feels "slower" than the Jeff, but not in a bad way. It's hard to explain, but basically the Jeff wants to striaghtline everything, the wildcats want to make a few turns and the woodsmans want all few more.

Which ski you want depends on what and where you'll be skiing, and how you want to ski it.

I'd say, if you like the wildcats and want a similar vibe get the smaller size.

If you want something more progressive and/or to charge extremely hard and/or to really get into the park go Jeff's.

From what you've said, it sounds like the woodsman ain't it.
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Having been on the Jeff 100, in addition to actual stiff, heavier, more freeride skis, IME they aren't super fast skis that want to straight line everything. Sure they are fast for freestyle oriented skis, but are no means some charger. The woodsman is ON3P's "freeride ski" and would be suitable for larger and fewer turns and higher speeds. I'm going to guess ON3P would agree with that.
 
I'm guessing tune had a lot to do with my experience on each of the skis, but at least spec wise the Jeff and woodsman have the same weight, effective edge and turn radius, so they're really not that different outside of mount point and maybe to some degree flex, maybe.

14592089:colerichardmyers said:
Having been on the Jeff 100, in addition to actual stiff, heavier, more freeride skis, IME they aren't super fast skis that want to straight line everything. Sure they are fast for freestyle oriented skis, but are no means some charger. The woodsman is ON3P's "freeride ski" and would be suitable for larger and fewer turns and higher speeds. I'm going to guess ON3P would agree with that.
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14591853:jumpman101 said:
On3p Jeff 100. Love mine I rip all mtn and some park love how they ski. They are soon going to make most likely a Jeff 92 for the next season
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They’re going to make a 92? Do you know if they’ll make a woodsman in that width as well?
 
14592131:gustafsonkevin12 said:
They’re going to make a 92? Do you know if they’ll make a woodsman in that width as well?
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14592134:colerichardmyers said:
92 Woodsman would be a killer for mid west and east coast.
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I think they said in a custom they have the capability to do a 96 or 98 I forget when I spoke for the woodsman. But the Jeff line will be a 92 100 108 and 118 I believe
 
I ski Kartel 108s @186cm (Now the Jeff) and just remounted my Woodsman 108s at 186cm with STH 16s. The Woodsman is an insane ski to ride. The right amount of meat on the bone, so to speak. It snaps in and out of turns soooo well. Its a mean ski to ride for sure.

**This post was edited on Mar 2nd 2024 at 9:38:15pm
 
I loved my kartel 108 just barely get to use them I wonder if they can spec a 96 woodsman for touring

14595479:GayWolf420 said:
I ski Kartel 108s @186cm (Now the Jeff) and just remounted my Woodsman 108s at 186cm with STH 16s. The Woodsman is an insane ski to ride. The right amount of meat on the bone, so to speak. It snaps in and out of turns soooo well. It’s a mean ski to ride for sure.

**This post was edited on Mar 2nd 2024 at 9:38:15pm
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As someone who owns on3p and moment I would grab jeffs. Rode all mountain and park on kartels for a long time and it’s an awesome ski. Progressive mount likes a more upright stance than the other skis and you can’t drive the tips quite as much, they still absolutely rip. Wouldn’t be too worried about hard snow performance when you have those stocklis.
 
14595479:GayWolf420 said:
I ski Kartel 108s @186cm (Now the Jeff) and just remounted my Woodsman 108s at 186cm with STH 16s. The Woodsman is an insane ski to ride. The right amount of meat on the bone, so to speak. It snaps in and out of turns soooo well. Its a mean ski to ride for sure.
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Hey mate, I’m also trying to decide on some 3ps so hope you no mind if I jack this thread and ask you since you seem to have em all. I’ve never had a chance to try them. Trying to downsize my collection of shitty promo skis I hate and get one good honest resort ripper. Probably a woodsman 108.

would you say the Woodsman can kinda box in the same class as like Volkl Revolts, Fischer Rangers, Nordica Enforcers, Head Kores etc?

Looking for something that skis with some refinement but knows how to party. I really like damp, energetic, chargy. I generally like a stiffer ski but hate light+stiff, and esp hate planky park skis.
 
14597364:Benchhitter said:
Hey mate, I’m also trying to decide on some 3ps so hope you no mind if I jack this thread and ask you since you seem to have em all. I’ve never had a chance to try them. Trying to downsize my collection of shitty promo skis I hate and get one good honest resort ripper. Probably a woodsman 108.

would you say the Woodsman can kinda box in the same class as like Volkl Revolts, Fischer Rangers, Nordica Enforcers, Head Kores etc?

Looking for something that skis with some refinement but knows how to party. I really like damp, energetic, chargy. I generally like a stiffer ski but hate light+stiff, and esp hate planky park skis.
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Honestly its in a different category of a directional freeride ski in my opinion. Its shape is really unique. But i havent skied enough of other brands. It wants to be on-edge alot and its a decent bit of meat on the ski with the construction and rocker/camber profile. Its pretty fun to tear-ass on. It can rail GS turns, blast through crud, and ski some pretty deep turns as well. Its a solid daily driver. It super-jibby too. You can throw them around pretty decently on slash turns AND you can ski switch on them!

**This post was edited on Mar 10th 2024 at 9:27:00pm
 
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