I think they ski great outside of the park. I ski mostly Minnesota, so there is mostly ice, but since they are a stiff ski they can hold somewhat of an edge on groomers. I have also taken them to Colorado, and they worked great for cruising around at high speeds. I also skied about 10 inches on them. That was a little difficult at times, but completely possible and fun. I loved using them as an all mountai style ski when I get the opportunity, and as a park ski they fucking slay. ( I also have never gotten the chance to ski anything much wider than the FR, since I am mostly skiing park in MN, so I don't have a ski designed for all mountain to compare it to)