Ollie bands and butter zones

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Davin_Cowper

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Lines park skis this year have these ollie bands in the base and this idea oof butter zones on the tip and tails of the skis. Do you think these will actually improve your pop and controle or is it just another selling point for the company? will other companies follow with the butter zones?
 
fujis have a "unique flex pattern that keeps the ski rigid underfoot for control and stability but soft toward the extremities for presses, ollies and butters.".......im geussing that this is equivilant to lines butterzone
 
yeah it probobly makes a difference but i dont think it makes a substacial one.i think it is a little bit of a markating ploy but most of those kind of things are.i think it might change park performance but its not like its goin to make a big impact on the skiing industry.
 
maybe one day k2, and line more-so will figure out that the flex in a butter happens inches from your feet, not way out 2 feet away on the tips. they both have tips and tail ends that are too soft and sap away pop.
 
ya, think about it, its a simple matter of leverage. if the softer flex zone is closer to your feet it will take less effort to flex than if the soft zone is far away from your feet.
 
haha yeah me and charles have been pushing that idea for years and it always gets shut down, then someone makes "rockered" skis and its the best thing since sliced bread. I guess if kids give you the idea they are natually stupid, but if pep says its good do it!

oh hey ollie bands and butter zones been around for like 4 years so its coo.
 
Go try one of theses skis, Invader/anthem/fuji/thall, it is easier to do a controlled butter with them than say something like a head ski. Also with the Lines models, if you look closely you can see where the profile changes to create a softer area. So how is it a gimmik? It would only be a gimik if these things didnt help create a better park ski which they do.
 
They're basically just buzzwords for a certain flex pattern Line is using. Whether or not you're a fan of those patterns is up to you.
 
t halls got it down pretty good, but not fujis and def not invaders. yeah they butter easily, but the design is far from ideal. point im trying to make is you dont need super soft tips(im talkin last foot or so of the ski on each end), you just need softish spots near your feet, then an even flex that makes a platform to press out on(not lines floppy ass noodle tips). ride some comtes or og scratches/scratch sprayers and you'll know.
 
Rockered skis buterr 10 times better than any other ski out there. You could butter better on a pair of rockered gotama's than on the invaders
 
T-Halls did get it just about perfect. Keeps the pop and stiffness where it should be, but a few inches out of the foot that soften up.
 
I had a pair of some old armada ar5s that had this flex. You are right, that it makes it really easy to get into a butter, BUT i hated that flex for pretty much everything else. it was so easy to get off balance b/c you had no platform under your feet.
 
haha my wides still have that and i'm still lovin it. in my opinion, the ollie band defenitley gives you a little exra pop, at least compared to pe's and tm's that i've ridden.
 
If I'm correct, aren't "ollie bands" just carbon stringers inserted in the ski over the core, and the "window" is a section of translucent topsheet?
 
Everyone has different preferences and almost no one has skied all of the options out there, so my advice would be to demo before you buy. No matter what you end up with, you'll get used to it. Chances are your mind is not on the flex pattern of your skis in the middle of a trick, it's on spotting the landing or getting the grab....etc. Skiing is something like is 90 percent you and 10 percent equiptment.
 
This is true for the most part, until you dig into tricks like nollies, butters and other technical rail type stuff. Not to mention big jumps. These are the extremes, and this is when your skis design become extremely important and its not just 10 percent your skis anymore.
 
these remind me of like 6 years ago when rossi released the "pow-air grind"--grind plates built into the skis, aka plastic edges!! bwahahahaha.  My prediction: the areas of these skis where they thinned out the core will probably work great for butters/presses when new, but after riding them for a year I bet it will just turn into a weak point where the ski loses flex/pop/liveliness.  Just  like solly "spaceframe" material--great for pro riders that get 5 pairs of skis every season, shitty for the consumer because they completely lose flex after a season.
 
well said. and if no one has seen the wild west video on line's site, you shoud. because this kid know's what the hell he's talking about when it comes to butters and nollies and presses on line skis.
 
i just thought i would bring this back becasue this weekend i skied on some 178 anthems and im 5'4" 130lbs and i love to butter and the "butter zones" on the anthems actualy work! i usualy ride the 169 fujative and they butter nicely but its kinda hard to "lock into" a butter.. i didnt think the butter zones would work too well, but i was deffinitly wrong..

cliff notes: butter zones actualy work like crazy good! (on the anthems at least.)
 
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