Oldschoolers

jib_roni

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Skiing has changed/evolved so much since I first started skiing. Style, tricks, attitude, everything. From first seeing Tom Wallisch's super unknown, waiting for what felt like forever for the next chug life, Nick Martini's KOS edit, The faction collective putting down hammer edits, to now seeing the bunch and the craze that has become. I will watch edits and enjoy them, but it doesn't warm my soul like the old days. Once in a while I'll see a new edit and it will rekindle that flame. Any oldschoolers feel the same?
 
Ha ha ha , I love when young bucks think Wallisch and Martini are old school. Damn that makes me feel ancient. When I think of Old School I still think of Wane Wong, Stump and the likes. Remember the NEW Canadian Air force? Freeze the mag.... Mind the Addiction..... Now I'm just ageing myself even more..... Get off my lawn!
 
The difference is the video technology. Back when edits were dope, way less people had cameras. Now everyone can just shoot videos on their phones, so there are more edits, more content that sort of averages out the field from the best skiers only (2007) to every skier has videos online (2017) see what im saying?
 
i was thinking about this edit this morning for some reason.

[video]https://vimeo.com/24366026[/video]

**This post was edited on Aug 10th 2017 at 3:44:25pm
 
13829765:eheath said:
The difference is the video technology. Back when edits were dope, way less people had cameras. Now everyone can just shoot videos on their phones, so there are more edits, more content that sort of averages out the field from the best skiers only (2007) to every skier has videos online (2017) see what im saying?

True words

Remember those times when somebody who released edit wast the chosen.
 
13829738:snowpocalypse said:
Ha ha ha , I love when young bucks think Wallisch and Martini are old school. Damn that makes me feel ancient. When I think of Old School I still think of Wane Wong, Stump and the likes. Remember the NEW Canadian Air force? Freeze the mag.... Mind the Addiction..... Now I'm just ageing myself even more..... Get off my lawn!

I have Happy Dayz on VHS. Old guys unite.
 
13829819:CaptainObvious. said:
I have Happy Dayz on VHS. Old guys unite.

I found my Further and Globally Storming VHS's the other day. I no longer own a VHS player though. This disappointed me
 
13829738:snowpocalypse said:
Ha ha ha , I love when young bucks think Wallisch and Martini are old school. Damn that makes me feel ancient. When I think of Old School I still think of Wane Wong, Stump and the likes. Remember the NEW Canadian Air force? Freeze the mag.... Mind the Addiction..... Now I'm just ageing myself even more..... Get off my lawn!

Very true, I'm not old school, maybe more like oldish newschool. The first ski movie I saw was ski porn, and that's what sent me to the pegs.

Eheath definitely made a valid point as well. Everyone has a camera in some form these days. So it feels a little more diluted. Those days were great, because there wasn't as much to keep track of. People were rock stars on ns. I was so hyped to watch the clown school edits back in the day!
 
13829765:eheath said:
The difference is the video technology. Back when edits were dope, way less people had cameras. Now everyone can just shoot videos on their phones, so there are more edits, more content that sort of averages out the field from the best skiers only (2007) to every skier has videos online (2017) see what im saying?

No shit! I don't know how many hours and video cards it took me to upload analog footy to my moms computer, then wait 5 days for a 3 min video to render.
 
13829765:eheath said:
best skiers only (2007) to every skier has videos online (2017)

Yeah man, this was a good comment and especially this piece of it. For me, something that I've thought about for a while now but don't really know how to put into words is that a major difference from the "golden years" and today is that back then, the "pro skier" side of the sport seemed to be a really close knit group of people (skiers, filmers, some industry folks) that all kind of traveled around and lived/hung/skied together. It was kind of like this big All-Star team of skiers and their different personalities and line ups of sponsors and every single one of them shredded extremely hard... like big progression every year, true pro riding.

Today, because of what you said, it feels like the pro/industry or like insider/ "core" group of the sport or whatever you want to call is just this massive eclectic group of kids that are all over the place in terms of how they ski, how they document it, where they are located, what their attitudes are, etc. I believe that the vast majority of them wouldn't be around if they were held to the "All Star" standards of the "golden age".

There are pros and cons to both era's... but I miss the "All Star" feel that the pro side of the ski scene had back then. Those dudes were god damn rockstars.

You watch a Windell's edit from 2011 and the list of dudes skiing in that shit is insane.... now a days I watch a Windell's edit and its a bunch of kids I've never heard of doing hand plants in sweatpants.

Idk, does any of that make sense?
 
13830003:Park_Ranger said:
Yeah man, this was a good comment and especially this piece of it. For me, something that I've thought about for a while now but don't really know how to put into words is that a major difference from the "golden years" and today is that back then, the "pro skier" side of the sport seemed to be a really close knit group of people (skiers, filmers, some industry folks) that all kind of traveled around and lived/hung/skied together. It was kind of like this big All-Star team of skiers and their different personalities and line ups of sponsors and every single one of them shredded extremely hard... like big progression every year, true pro riding.

Today, because of what you said, it feels like the pro/industry or like insider/ "core" group of the sport or whatever you want to call is just this massive eclectic group of kids that are all over the place in terms of how they ski, how they document it, where they are located, what their attitudes are, etc. I believe that the vast majority of them wouldn't be around if they were held to the "All Star" standards of the "golden age".

There are pros and cons to both era's... but I miss the "All Star" feel that the pro side of the ski scene had back then. Those dudes were god damn rockstars.

You watch a Windell's edit from 2011 and the list of dudes skiing in that shit is insane.... now a days I watch a Windell's edit and its a bunch of kids I've never heard of doing hand plants in sweatpants.

Idk, does any of that make sense?

A great example of this is Hoodhouse, when it was all the biggest names (and still the biggest names) out all living in a house in Govy and putting out the most insane content on like a weekly basis. It was like Wallisch, Hornbeck, Phil Casabon, Henrik, Adam Delorme, Ahemt, Parker White, Chris Logan, Tanner Rainville, Dane Tudor, Matt Walker, Nick Martini, Liam Downey, etc.

That shit was insane and the kids these days just aren't that.
 
13830003:Park_Ranger said:
Yeah man, this was a good comment and especially this piece of it. For me, something that I've thought about for a while now but don't really know how to put into words is that a major difference from the "golden years" and today is that back then, the "pro skier" side of the sport seemed to be a really close knit group of people (skiers, filmers, some industry folks) that all kind of traveled around and lived/hung/skied together. It was kind of like this big All-Star team of skiers and their different personalities and line ups of sponsors and every single one of them shredded extremely hard... like big progression every year, true pro riding.

Today, because of what you said, it feels like the pro/industry or like insider/ "core" group of the sport or whatever you want to call is just this massive eclectic group of kids that are all over the place in terms of how they ski, how they document it, where they are located, what their attitudes are, etc. I believe that the vast majority of them wouldn't be around if they were held to the "All Star" standards of the "golden age".

There are pros and cons to both era's... but I miss the "All Star" feel that the pro side of the ski scene had back then. Those dudes were god damn rockstars.

You watch a Windell's edit from 2011 and the list of dudes skiing in that shit is insane.... now a days I watch a Windell's edit and its a bunch of kids I've never heard of doing hand plants in sweatpants.

Idk, does any of that make sense?

Dude, you are fully spot on. Old hood edits were awesome! It would make me want to go to Oregon so bad, now it really doesnt seem as eventful. Thats why they call it the golden age though.
 
13830003:Park_Ranger said:
You watch a Windell's edit from 2011 and the list of dudes skiing in that shit is insane.... now a days I watch a Windell's edit and its a bunch of kids I've never heard of doing hand plants in sweatpants.

When the tall t era came around I remember being like "who are these new guys wearing really baggy clothes?" Some of them blew up and had a huge impact on the sport. The kids doing hand plants in sweatpants will do the same.
 
13830003:Park_Ranger said:
Yeah man, this was a good comment and especially this piece of it. For me, something that I've thought about for a while now but don't really know how to put into words is that a major difference from the "golden years" and today is that back then, the "pro skier" side of the sport seemed to be a really close knit group of people (skiers, filmers, some industry folks) that all kind of traveled around and lived/hung/skied together. It was kind of like this big All-Star team of skiers and their different personalities and line ups of sponsors and every single one of them shredded extremely hard... like big progression every year, true pro riding.

Today, because of what you said, it feels like the pro/industry or like insider/ "core" group of the sport or whatever you want to call is just this massive eclectic group of kids that are all over the place in terms of how they ski, how they document it, where they are located, what their attitudes are, etc. I believe that the vast majority of them wouldn't be around if they were held to the "All Star" standards of the "golden age".

There are pros and cons to both era's... but I miss the "All Star" feel that the pro side of the ski scene had back then. Those dudes were god damn rockstars.

You watch a Windell's edit from 2011 and the list of dudes skiing in that shit is insane.... now a days I watch a Windell's edit and its a bunch of kids I've never heard of doing hand plants in sweatpants.

Idk, does any of that make sense?

100% with ya, but I'm pretty "oldschool" biased myself
 
I'm not old school at all. And I wish I knew a lot more about the beginning of freeskiing. I didn't even start skiing until 2013 lol.
 
When it comes to twintips and innovation in tricks, you just need to go back and look at the first ski movies/edits you saw, what you thought was "crazy" and "stylish", then go back to last year's films, and so and so on, until you reach Royalty and realise.
 
13830026:jib_roni said:
Dude, you are fully spot on. Old hood edits were awesome! It would make me want to go to Oregon so bad, now it really doesnt seem as eventful. Thats why they call it the golden age though.

i think we are just getting old too. i am same boat as you, first movie i bought was ski porn.

i used to be able to list every pro, who they were sponsored by, knew all their faces. you get older and more important stuff takes it place.

i watch edits now and all the "top" guys i wouldnt be able to recognize if they were standing beside me in walmart.

i agree with jib_roni though, tom wallisch super unknown, the massive webisodes t-hall they did, nimbus stuff. all our favorite skiers are getting old with us. the glory days
 
Not to be a nostalgic little bitch, but the days when most of all content most skiers viewed was ski movies. Everyone would be astonished after waiting an entire year for the next movie. Now pro's drop an edit every week or so.
 
13830623:GREEN_BASTARD said:
Not to be a nostalgic little bitch, but the days when most of all content most skiers viewed was ski movies. Everyone would be astonished after waiting an entire year for the next movie. Now pro's drop an edit every week or so.

Yup, and the stuff being done in those movies was/is 10x the riding compared to these Iphone edits of kids washing out and trying to make it look cool.
 
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