cobra_commander
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and how much is fresh water. salt water does not hydrate you. Distrobution would be a problem water is very dense.
Oil production has already peaked?
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MC_POUTINE
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it also flows through pipes, kinda like oil. and we all get lots of that
seeingstars
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do you even know what a reverse osmosis machine does?
cobra_commander
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how many are you planing on distributing. how will you get them there? how many are you going to make? where is the money going to come from? cool yes the technology is there. the technology for alot of stuff is there. but its just too damn expensive.
seeingstars
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they already have a ton of them in the middle east. Plus you can buy personal models, my friend almost got one for his sailboat.
I'm not worried about the distributing the machines because I'm not a communist. The free market will distribute them.
I'm not worried about the distributing the machines because I'm not a communist. The free market will distribute them.
seeingstars
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who currently pays for water that doesn't live in a city?
And accessibility will not be a factor if there are better distribution systems in the future. See - "Los Angeles"
We can already get gasoline to everyone who needs it. Why can't we get water there too?
And where is the water that people are using now going to go?
And accessibility will not be a factor if there are better distribution systems in the future. See - "Los Angeles"
We can already get gasoline to everyone who needs it. Why can't we get water there too?
And where is the water that people are using now going to go?
cobra_commander
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Oh I don't see any problems with people that live in first world countries getting water for a while.
I was think other places, places where water is not free. I have been
to very few countries outside the US where drinkable water came free.
And water is not free in the country even in the US it takes
electricity to pump the water out of the ground. electricity costs
money. especially in places with limited electricity.
and what is going to happen with all the current clean water? it will
probably become contaminated. not all of it, but it is really easy to
contaminate water.
Also who in south east asia who makes pennies a day is going to fork over for a personal reverse osmosis machine, when he could just kill the person next to him and take his water...
so when you have to leave your house in the Yellowstone club why don't you just wake the fuck up for a little bit and realize that money does not grow on trees for most people.
I was think other places, places where water is not free. I have been
to very few countries outside the US where drinkable water came free.
And water is not free in the country even in the US it takes
electricity to pump the water out of the ground. electricity costs
money. especially in places with limited electricity.
and what is going to happen with all the current clean water? it will
probably become contaminated. not all of it, but it is really easy to
contaminate water.
Also who in south east asia who makes pennies a day is going to fork over for a personal reverse osmosis machine, when he could just kill the person next to him and take his water...
so when you have to leave your house in the Yellowstone club why don't you just wake the fuck up for a little bit and realize that money does not grow on trees for most people.
cobra_commander
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gotta protect the pipes, oil is not necessary for life. water is. you just expect people who have no water to sit by a pipeline that carries plenty of water and not do anything?
http://cals.arizona.edu/AZWATER/awr/dec99/Feature2.htm
"Consider: More than a dozen nations receive most of their water from rivers that cross borders of neighboring countries viewed as hostile. These include Botswana, Bulgaria, Cambodia, the Congo, Gambia, the Sudan, and Syria, all of whom receive 75 percent or more of their fresh water from the river flow of often hostile upstream neighbors."
"The World Bank reports that 80 countries now have water shortages that threaten health and economies while 40 percent of the world — more than 2 billion people — have no access to clean water or sanitation"
"Meanwhile many countries suffer accelerating desertification. Water quality is deteriorating in many areas of the developing world as population increases and salinity caused by industrial farming and over-extraction rises. About 95 percent of the world's cities still dump raw sewage into their waters. "
Can desalination help? Yes. but it also has MAJOR drawbacks. Mainly energy usage by a desalination plant is huge.
"Energy use requirements for desalination plants are high. For example, an estimated 50 million kWh/yr would be required for full-time operation of the City of Santa Barbara's desalination plant to produce 7,500 AF/yr of water. In contrast, the energy needed to pump 7,500 AF/yr of water from the Colorado River Aqueduct or the State Water Project to the Metropolitan Water District (MWD) of Southern California is 15 to 26 million kWh/yr. These energy requirements may be compared to the energy use of a small- to medium-sized industrial facility (such as a large refinery, small steel mill, or large computer center) which uses 75,000 to 100,000 kWh/yr."
-http://www.coastal.ca.gov/desalrpt/dchap1.html
And with global energy sources decreasing, thus driving up costs, it becomes more and more difficult for desailnation to meet the demands for providing potable water in the developing world.
"Consider: More than a dozen nations receive most of their water from rivers that cross borders of neighboring countries viewed as hostile. These include Botswana, Bulgaria, Cambodia, the Congo, Gambia, the Sudan, and Syria, all of whom receive 75 percent or more of their fresh water from the river flow of often hostile upstream neighbors."
"The World Bank reports that 80 countries now have water shortages that threaten health and economies while 40 percent of the world — more than 2 billion people — have no access to clean water or sanitation"
"Meanwhile many countries suffer accelerating desertification. Water quality is deteriorating in many areas of the developing world as population increases and salinity caused by industrial farming and over-extraction rises. About 95 percent of the world's cities still dump raw sewage into their waters. "
Can desalination help? Yes. but it also has MAJOR drawbacks. Mainly energy usage by a desalination plant is huge.
"Energy use requirements for desalination plants are high. For example, an estimated 50 million kWh/yr would be required for full-time operation of the City of Santa Barbara's desalination plant to produce 7,500 AF/yr of water. In contrast, the energy needed to pump 7,500 AF/yr of water from the Colorado River Aqueduct or the State Water Project to the Metropolitan Water District (MWD) of Southern California is 15 to 26 million kWh/yr. These energy requirements may be compared to the energy use of a small- to medium-sized industrial facility (such as a large refinery, small steel mill, or large computer center) which uses 75,000 to 100,000 kWh/yr."
-http://www.coastal.ca.gov/desalrpt/dchap1.html
And with global energy sources decreasing, thus driving up costs, it becomes more and more difficult for desailnation to meet the demands for providing potable water in the developing world.