Official ski company request thread

14008476:Poikenz said:
Moment did this with the frankenski, didn't turn out very well.
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14008617:Pipe_Munky said:
Rossignol did it about 15 years ago...
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Thanks for letting me know! Did the rossi not work well either? Also as I’m curious, what issues did the Frankenskis have? Delam issues?
 
14008620:finder said:
Like I said, there are planty of design kinks that would have to be worked out. I think with the right layering or even some fiberglass completely surrounded by plastic could get the ski stiff enough for urban/low speed use. I’d butter around on some noodles, but probably not worth it to try to get it to the performance of anything meant to go fast.
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Sounds fun till they snap and stab you when you fall on them. Plastic+cold=brittle in most cases.
 
Might be asking a bit much but it would be dope if Revision shipped me the skis I bought August 3rd, 2016 I would be pumped
 
14008502:finder said:
Yeah if you suck at welding or make it entirely out of plastic. How do you think penny makes a longboard with no metal in it?
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Plastic that you would use for this application would be heavier per square foot than most wood used in skis, it is also a lot weaker than most wood used in skis (hardwood that is, poplar and balsa are absolute shit). The extra steel you plan on welding would make it way heavier than any ski on the market and the sandwich construction used in today's skis is actually a really good design for strength. Longboards undergo different stresses than skis so that is how it is possible to make a 100% plastic board. If you want a ski that doesn't rot, make a ski with a closed cell foam core. It won't be better than the average ski, but the foam core will solve that single problem.
 
14009392:Poikenz said:
Plastic that you would use for this application would be heavier per square foot than most wood used in skis, it is also a lot weaker than most wood used in skis (hardwood that is, poplar and balsa are absolute shit). The extra steel you plan on welding would make it way heavier than any ski on the market and the sandwich construction used in today's skis is actually a really good design for strength. Longboards undergo different stresses than skis so that is how it is possible to make a 100% plastic board. If you want a ski that doesn't rot, make a ski with a closed cell foam core. It won't be better than the average ski, but the foam core will solve that single problem.
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Bro, idk why this back and forth has been going on for so long but a completely plastic/composite ski isn't out of the realm of possibility, at all. Chevy's been using glass reinforced plastic leaf springs for the corvette for decades -point is carbon composites with plastic and steel will almost always be stronger and lighter than a wood component.
 
14009398:Biffbarf said:
Bro, idk why this back and forth has been going on for so long but a completely plastic/composite ski isn't out of the realm of possibility, at all. Chevy's been using glass reinforced plastic leaf springs for the corvette for decades -point is carbon composites with plastic and steel will almost always be stronger and lighter than a wood component.
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I mean yes, there is obviously a reason leaf springs are made out of steel or carbon composites and not wood, but again you are comparing apples to oranges. The other guy said plastic though, and nothing about any sort of added cloth. It is entirely possible to make a ski out of purely plastic, carbon fiber, or e- glass, is it a good or viable idea is another question. Based on the properties of those materials not being suitable to be used on their own in a ski, I would say no. Carbon fiber for example is extremely stiff compared to wood and would noticeably chatter a lot more than an average ski in most conditions (I've made a pair they are awful, don't do it). Plastics are typically as heavy per cubic foot as hardwoods if not more so (~40lbs+ depending on the material) and without an added fiber, plastics are weak as fuck. Any sort of molding you could do to increase the strength of plastic you can do with a lighter and stronger wood so there isn't a point. Those materials are also expensive compared to wood, so do you sell $1000+ park skis or do you eat the cost yourself? I personally don't know of a good core replacement as of this moment.
 
14008550:skiswerve said:
I can see why this would be a good idea, but will plastic be able to hold up on the skiers weight and have any flex? It would be dope to have a clear plastic ski with a recycled topsheet of a bunch of plastic shit and I think the idea is a great one but that would be like a ETT episode from Signal Snowboards (if u know u know), I don't think it would be sustainable as a base.
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even though im a skier ett was the shit!
 
14007815:RudyGarmisch said:
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WhAt ThE HeLl iS ThAt
 
Except for Moment, Armada, and somewhat Liberty, this years topesheets are all really, really boring. It’s great that skis have been a medium to include some awesome, awesome art in the past. These past couple years, ski graphics *ON AVERAGE* have been getting much less creative.

Line is the most disappointing this year, considering how awesome their topsheets have been in the past. People have just gotten lazy it feels.

Also, the new textured topsheets that many skis have make the skis look plasticky and cheap. It makes them look like a Walmart ski.
 
14010487:colbyapplegate said:
Vishnus last because nobody does anything hard on them
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Somewhat agree, but I’ve seen some people rip on them and they seem to use them for a long time
 
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