Obesity America

Grimace.

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ok so today was my 17th birthday so my family and i went out to dinner at this rib place a few minutes from my house. and while we were waiting for our food i noticed that not one kid in the place would be considered skinny and the majority were obese. Not to mentions the kids parents who shared the same physical attributes. Then the drinks came, they were in giant classes, filled all the way to the top. I'd say the height of the glass was just under a foot, and about 5 inches in diameter. and when the food came, the portions were enormously. When looking over the menu i noticed that they served chicken and waffles as well. now this is considered a more upscale rip joint where entries average 20 dollars, yet there serving chicken and waffles. now i would like to say that these people and serving sizes are only limited to this restaurant, but in literally every single restaurant i attend i find the same thing. now i feel like i should include some information about where i live. i have lived in Massachusetts my whole life, so I'm not ranting about the south or anything. but America is way to fat and its pissing me off. oh yeah, kfc's half a gallon fountain drink is a little over the top too. no wonder diabetes, hear problems, and people just strait out eating until they can't eat anymore is so common here.

oh yeah, its 3:42am right now so I'm not really sure what it is I'm trying to say.
 
just go to any buffet style restaraunt and you'll be throwing up. i don't worry about it too much though. just keep the values that were instilled on you like eating healthy, normal sized portions, make sure you get a wife with the same values and pass them on to your children.
 
yea its messed up. But as much as I blame the restaurants that serve portions like that, I blame the people for being dumb fatasses. I mean come on fatties, It's practically common sense to not eat so much that you explode, exercise every so often, and you won't get fat unless you are one of hte few people who really are genetically predisposed to obesity. And in reality, there really aren't very many people who have bad genetics, its the whole culture. And even when people try to eat better foods, when will they learn that eating low fat potato chips, diet soda, and sugar free ice cream is NOT good for you at all and you won't lose any weight, you will just fuck your body up. It is kind of dissapointing
 
I hate seeing diet pills, diet programs, etc commercials on tv. It gets soooo annoying because you know it's total bs. I know what you're saying though, it really brings down the morale of a nation being fat. It's pretty disguisting to look at some people and think how they can do it to themselves, but the society we live in needs to change in order for people to eat healthier. I love seeing people going to the gym and running. I usually compliment them if I get the chance. I also get my little cousins into sports so they can get some excersise at a young age.

 
i see all the lose weight fast programs as the downfall of society. when in the day we live in, hard work isn't how things are done. people want to see results quickly and immediatly. they aren't willing to put in the time to fix their mistakes
 
i agree 100%. If you can't put in the hard work to get in shape, fuck you, and fuck your tubby ass. Same for me goes with all the cheating ways a lot of gym rats use. If you want to use steroids, go ahead, and I will consider you a cheater.
 
i hate watching dr phil and oprah and montel and shit like that and seeing fat people complain about how they get bullied and shit at school for being fat. you know what fat people? FUCK YOU. most obese people are that fucking huge because they chose to be. fuck now im all riled up
 
well, the United States Surgeon General, Richard H. Carmona, seems to share the same thought as me and even calls it a crisis.

"The Obesity Crisis in America"

Statement of

Richard H. Carmona, M.D., M.P.H., F.A.C.S.

Surgeon General

U.S. Public Health Service

Acting Assistant Secretary for Health

Department of Health and Human Services

For Release on Delivery

Expected at 10:00 am

on Wednesday, July 16, 2003

Good morning Mr. Chairman and distinguished members of the Subcommittee. My name is Dr. Richard Carmona, and I am the Surgeon General of the United States.

As an American, I want to take this opportunity to thank you for your service to our nation. I’ve had the honor of working with many of you during my first 11 months as Surgeon General, and I look forward to strengthening our partnerships to improve the health and well-being of all Americans.

Mr. Chairman, you have been a leader in developing innovative approaches to combat childhood obesity. Thank you for your commitment to the health and well-being of our children. The hearing you have called today will draw further public attention to this growing pediatric health crisis.

As Surgeon General, I welcome this chance to talk with you about a health crisis affecting every state, every city, every community, and every school across our great nation.

The crisis is obesity. It’s the fastest-growing cause of disease and death in America. And it’s completely preventable.

* Nearly two out of every three Americans are overweight or obese.

* One out of every eight deaths in America is caused by an illness directly related to overweight and obesity.

Think of it this way: statistics tell us that of the 20 members serving on this subcommittee, at least two will die because of a completely preventable illness related to overweight or obesity. Because of overweight or obesity, two of you will spend less time serving your communities and enjoying your children and grandchildren.

America’s children are already seeing the initial consequences of a lack of physical activity and unhealthy eating habits. Fortunately, there is still time to reverse this dangerous trend in our children’s lives.

Let’s start with the good news: I am pleased to be able to report that most of America’s children are healthy.

Overall, 82 percent of our nation’s 70 million children are in very good or excellent health. Infant mortality is at an all-time low, childhood immunization is at an all-time high. Our children are less likely to smoke, and less likely to give birth as teenagers.

These are important gains in pediatric health.

But the bad news is that an unprecedented number of children are carrying excess body weight. That excess weight significantly increases our kids’ risk factors for a range of health problems, including diabetes, heart disease, asthma, and emotional and mental health problems.

As a father, I work hard to teach my children about the importance of physical activity and healthy eating. Every parent in this room wants the best for their children.

But the fact is that we have an epidemic of childhood obesity. A study conducted in May by the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene and the Department of Education found that, adjusted to National Standards, nearly one in four of the children in New York City’s public elementary schools is overweight.

Today I will discuss the three key factors that we must address to reduce and eliminate childhood obesity in America. They are:

1. Increased physical activity;

2. Healthier eating habits; and

3. Improved health literacy.

Mr. Chairman, I ask that my statement and the scientific information contained in it be considered as read and made part of the record. In the interest of time, this morning I will present only part of that statement to the subcommittee.

Looking back 40 years to the 1960s, when many of us in this room were children, just over four percent of 6- to 17-year-olds were overweight. Since then, that rate has more than tripled, to over 15 percent. And the problem doesn’t go away when children grow up. Nearly three out of every four overweight teenagers may become overweight adults.

I’m not willing to stand by and let that happen. American children deserve much better than being condemned to a lifetime of serious, costly, and potentially fatal medical complications associated with excess weight. The facts are staggering:

* In the year 2000, the total annual cost of obesity in the United States was $117 billion. While extra value meals may save us some change at the counter, they’re costing us billions of dollars in health care and lost productivity. Physical inactivity and super-sized meals are leading to a nation of oversized people.

* This year, more than 300,000 Americans will die from illnesses related to overweight and obesity.

* Obesity contributes to the number-one cause of death in our nation: heart disease.

* Excess weight has also led to an increase in the number of people suffering from Type 2 diabetes. There are at least 17 million Americans with diabetes, and another 16 million have pre-diabetes. Each year, diabetes costs America $132 billion. It can lead to eye diseases, cardiovascular problems, kidney failure, and early death.

Why are we facing this epidemic of overweight and obesity? Over 50 genes associated with obesity have been located in the human gene map. But the ever-increasing problem of overweight among American children cannot be explained away by changes in genetic composition.

Studies conducted by HHS’ National Institutes of Health and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention are already yielding important clues about the multiple factors that contribute to overweight and obesity. Studies are also providing new information about potentially successful interventions.

We know more than ever about the combination of genetic, social, metabolic, and environmental factors that play a role in children’s weight.

But the fundamental reason that our children are overweight is this: Too many children are eating too much and moving too little.

In some cases, solving the problem is as easy as turning off the television and keeping the lid on the cookie jar.

Our children did not create this problem. Adults did. Adults increased the portion size of children’s meals, developed the games and television that children find spellbinding, and chose the sedentary lifestyles that our children emulate. So adults must take the lead in solving this problem.

I’m pleased that businesses like Kraft Foods, Coca Cola, and Nike are supporting major efforts and making significant changes to help kids make healthier choices.

These and other business leaders, foundations, schools and universities across our nation are starting to make a difference in children’s health. I encourage other organizations and every parent in America to join the fight against childhood obesity.

We must teach our children to enjoy healthy foods in healthy portions. As parents, we should never use food as a reward or punishment.

And especially now, during the summer, we need to encourage all children to be physically active for at least 60 minutes a day. Not only sports, but simple things like taking the stairs, riding their bikes, and just getting out and playing.

And as we are getting our kids to make healthy choices, we also need to make them for ourselves. James Baldwin captured the essence of this when he said: "Children have never been good at listening to their elders, but they have never failed to imitate them."

I’ll be the first to say it won’t be easy. My wife and I have four kids. I know first-hand that families live such busy lives that it’s tough to prepare healthy meals and have enough time to get in some physical activity.

But it’s so important, because the choices that children make now, the behaviors they learn now, will last a lifetime.

As adults we must lead by example. Personally, I work out every day. I do my best to make healthy choices in all I do. My bosses President Bush and Secretary Thompson also find time to exercise. In fact, Secretary Thompson put the Department of Health and Human Services on a diet and has led by example by losing over 15 pounds.

President Bush, Secretary Thompson, and I have made disease prevention and health promotion a priority in our roles as leaders. As Surgeon General, prevention comes first in everything I do. Prevention is the vision behind the President’s HealthierUS Initiative and the Secretary’s Steps to a HealthierUS Initiative.

One of the many challenges is that there are so many more incentives in our current health care system for treatment than for prevention. When I was a practicing physician in a hospital, I made a good living treating people who could have avoided my hospital entirely if they had made better lifestyle choices.

Benjamin Franklin was absolutely right back in the 1700s: an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. But more than 200 years later, prevention is still a radical concept to most Americans.

At the Department of Health and Human Services, we’re encouraging healthy habits more than ever through our work to eliminate health disparities; our many initiatives designed to encourage physical activity, healthy eating, and regular checkups; and our nationwide campaigns to discourage smoking and drug and alcohol abuse.

To help promote healthy lifestyles, I am visiting schools across America in my 50 Schools in 50 States Initiative to talk with kids about avoiding drugs and alcohol, avoiding tobacco in every form, being physically active, eating right, and making healthy choices every day.

Each time I’m out on the road, whether at a school or passing through an airport, I meet young people who are making choices that affect their health and well-being. I believe that what they see and hear in the media can have a profound effect on their choices.

Secretary Thompson also appreciates that, and it’s why he focused the Youth Media Campaign on getting young people excited about increasing the physical activity in their lives and on showing parents that physical activity and healthy eating are essential to their children’s well-being.

This week, the President’s Council on Physical Fitness and Sports will launch a brand-new Presidential Champions Award. The award encourages a lifetime of activities for children and their parents or other role models.

We need initiatives like the Youth Media Campaign and the Presidential Champions Awards because the average American child spends more than four hours every day watching television, playing video games, or surfing the web. We are seeing a generation of kids who grew up off the playground and on the PlayStation.

We must all work together to help our children lead healthy lives. I caution people against playing the "blame game." Instead of blaming children for being overweight, we need to encourage them and help them to make healthier choices.

We need physical activity and healthy food choices in every school in America. We need better food choices at affordable prices in every neighborhood in America. And we need community planning that includes neighborhood playgrounds and safe walking paths.

Some people want to blame the food industry for our growing waistlines. The reality is that restaurants, including many fast food restaurants, now offer low-fat, healthy choices.

For the meals we eat at home, and the meals we eat out, it’s still our decision what we eat, where we eat, and how much we eat. That concept is part of what I’m talking about with Americans of all ages: increasing our health literacy.

Health literacy is the ability of an individual to access, understand, and use health-related information and services to make appropriate health decisions.

Low health literacy contributes to our nation’s epidemic of overweight and obesity. For example, some mothers are unaware that they can promote their baby’s health through breastfeeding. Experience with my own patients and students indicates that many Americans don’t understand the impact of caloric intake versus expenditure.

Every morning people wake up and, while they’re sitting at the kitchen table, they read the newspaper and the cereal box. Throughout the day they read the nutritional information on their meals and on their snacks. But do they really understand the information they’re reading?

The labels list grams of fat. But do you know how many grams of fat you should eat in a meal? Or in a day? Or how many is too many? Or too few? These are seemingly simple questions, but we’re not giving Americans simple answers.

Parents are hearing about overweight and obesity. So they’re trying to figure out how much food they should feed their children. How much is too much? How much is not enough? They’re concerned and confused about everything from calories and carbohydrates, to vitamins and portion sizes.

When children are growing and developing, a restrictive diet may not be the best choice for every child. Just as with adults, one diet does not fit every child.

As parents, we know that. But when we see a child gaining weight and not exercising enough, we see the social and psychological pain it causes. When we see a child’s self-esteem drop by the day because she’s left out of schoolyard games, or because he just can’t keep up with the other kids on their bikes, we know that we need to help that child.

I’m pleased to hear from parents and pediatricians that moms and dads are asking about how to establish healthy eating habits for kids.

Parents should always talk to a pediatrician or family physician before putting any child on a diet or beginning any vigorous exercise plan.

The reality is that often, if a child is overweight but still gaining height, the best thing parents can do is maintain the child’s weight. Kids come in all shapes and sizes, and sometimes a child just needs a little more physical activity and a little less food intake. Again, it’s not about blame — it’s about balance.

And to make healthy choices, parents and children need easy-to-understand information that fits into their busy lifestyles. All of us — government, academia, health care professionals, businesses, schools, and communities — need to work together to ensure that straightforward information about healthy eating and physical activity is available.

For example, Secretary Thompson announced last week that food labels will list trans fat content. By putting trans fat information on food labels, we’re giving American families information to make smart choices to lower their intake of these unhealthy fats.

The food pyramid is another great example. It’s probably the most-recognized nutrition guideline tool in America. HHS is looking forward to working with the Department of Agriculture to evaluate and update the food pyramid based on the latest scientific evidence.

I don’t have all the answers today. But we can figure this out together. We can increase health literacy and reduce childhood obesity. Secretary Thompson has been a pioneer in getting prevention into the American mindset. We’re starting to see some results, and we need your help. As members of Congress, as members of your communities, and as parents, you are role models and leaders.

As Surgeon General, I charge you to make healthy personal choices in your own lives, and to set good examples for all the children around you.

And I ask you to work with me to support our efforts to improve Americans’ health literacy, to put prevention first, and to end our nation’s obesity epidemic before it has a chance to reach into another generation of Americans.

Thank you. I would be happy to answer any questions.
 
I mean if you think it really starts in youth... In NY state at least, in our schools the food service contracts went to the lowest bidder. This means you get food cooked in cheap fatty oils like hydrogenated palm or cottonseed oil. Almost everything is deep or pan fried, because it's easy and cheap. Kids drink juice that is in reality doctored with so much corn syrup or sugar that it ends up having MORE sugars than a soda. Its gross as hell. I've seen kids literally growing up on nothing but hot pockets, taquitos, and pepsi. Really unfortunate, because at age 16 their blood pressure is like 150/100~

Soda is such a terrible thing. 40 grams of sugar in average mountain dew~! If you are not very active, this becomes fat, almost totally. Kids never ever drink water in America. Very sad, and very dangerous...
 
True, but many kids probably have a nice cold mountain dew. I used to be stuck on it myself... pretty much destroyed my entire set of teeth in 6 months' time. Oh well, gotta learn from your own mistakes some times :/

 
i just thought of something...noone has ragged on two of NS famous "big boned" people. i'm proud of you NS
 
i don't get why people don't just eat healthier? i would eat fruit over chips any day. and its not like it costs more. It might just be because my parents brought me up eating fairly healthy. With every dinner i have either fruit or a salad, i drink a lot of milk, real juice, and water and my house never has soda. i don't see why parents can't just do this for their kids, when i was little i use to love junk food, but that was probably because of the foods mascots and toys offered, if fruit actually got some dope characters i bet alot of kids would prefer it. lets face it, little kids can't tell if a food has fat, calories, and sugar they just eat what the tv and parents tell them to. it would be hard to fix the tv but parents can easily influence what there kids eat.
 
Unfortunately we have this subculture of obese people 'embracing who they are', convinced that they're beautiful and have no reason to change. The fact is it's more than fitting in a prom dress, the biggest problem is your health. Even the joint damage alone just from carrying so much weight is staggering even if they'er otherwise healthy. And if we ever get a social medical system, guess who will pay for all the injuries and ilnesses associated with obesity in 20 years? We will, whether skinny or big, so get on that diet!
 
I hate that it's called 'the obesity epidemic'. Typhus, small pox and the plague are epidemics. Shovelling high-cal, high-fat foods that have no nutritional value into your face all day long is a choice. Put down the burger and pick up a carrot stick already. It's all that convenience, pre-made food crap. If you can't even pronouce the ingredients, don't eat it.

I'm just glad 'the epidemic' isn't prevalent up here in Canada.
 
it is a big problem but i say that people can live the way they want, and if they want to be 400 lbs, thats ok. but its not all their faults-its the fast food companies and the food industry pushing unhealthy food on America. They need to take some responsibility. Also, our lifestyle is a big problem. Its possible, with cars and elevators and teh like to live a whole day and not walk more than say, 100 yards. thats just sad.
 
True, people can live how they want, but I don't think it's okay that parents are killing their children with the foods they feed them. Feeding a kid fast food everyday while they're zoned out in front of the tv is not resposible parenting. I just don't know how parents can look at their overweight children and not feel like they're doing something wrong.

Cook yourself and get exercise....GO SKIING!
 
thats the biggest thing with overweight children today, lazy parents. simply because they don't want to fight with their children, they'll give them whatever food they want. parents with morbidly obese children should be prosecuted somehow. its just as bad to give a kid twinkies and fast food for the first 10 years of their life as it is to give a kid a pack of smokes or alcohol. its probably worse
 
Like I said, I wouldn't mind the lifestyle if it didnt cause my medicare, soc/sec med, and health insurance payouts to triple in the last 15 years. I'm 5'9" 150lbs completely healthy, yet I'm paying for every overweight smoker in America. Like it or not, everyone affects society, and the burden is spread across the board.
 
same here man, i was always brought up having salads and milk at dinner. i hated it then, but now i appreciate it when i see all the fatties running around. it isnt just in the states, either. im happy i was brought up with apples and oranges instead of chips and pop. the only pop in my house in ginger ale, and i only drink it when im kinda sick. juice is where its at.

and yes, i think that if fruit and veggies somehow came up with some dope ass mascots, the world would be a better place. and by better i mean less fat.
 
Easy there guy, we're bustin on obesity here not nicotine addiction. I haven't cost you anything yet by smoking, and i pay into the system just like you.
 
Not my intention at all to hate on smokers, but the fact remains that in 20 years when you develop emphasema, if you aren't insured, I will be bankrolling your surgery, even though I never touched a cigarette. It's only an example as we haven't really seen the end result of an overweight life, but we've all seen (and paid for) smokers. Again, no hate, it's just a fact...

Now if the system were perfect your care would be taken care of anyway, but unfortunately, it is far from that~
 
it is a lot of the schools fault also, our school serves us shit, thats always horrible for you, they advertise that they have "healthy choices, but the proportions arent enough to feed an anorexic person, and it costs 2x as much. its fucking rediculous i hate chartwellls
 
i always hated the fruits and healthy food too. but like you i appreciate it now. now today, even though i love my doritos and cheetos, my mouth will start to water when i see my mom bought a huge watermelon, apples, grapes, bananas, and a whole bunch of other fruits and veggies
 
word. You made my mouth water...I'm going to have some of that watermelon in my fridge right now.

I've also started a love affair with water.
 
thats just common fucking sense that you have vegetables and salad and milk/juice at dinner. who the fuck brings out chips and pop at dinner? Do people actually do that? Fucking retards.

and whistler girl, there is an obesity problem in canada, we aren't as bad as the US but we definitely have a problem. 40% of kids are obese here
 
im raising my kids like little ninja children.

I stayed at a dojo in northern japan for a while and just kind of observed how they ran the ship... Kids grew up eating rice, eggs, chicken, they didnt even know what candy or soda was. To them fruit was candy, lol. Yet, they were normal kids, not like these 'earth children' who grow up with crazy parents in the states an eat nothing but wheat gluten.

My kids wont even know what soda is until theyre like... 12
 
come on though, they have fast food, cars, and elevators all over the country, and fast food isn't the problem, its mostly the parents who continue to feed there kids the fast food.
 
I don't think you're gonna find that answer on NS. I'd venture to say that most people on here were brought up that way. How often do you see a fat skier?
 
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