Obama or Romney?

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On the off chance that you were open minded enough to read through everything that you posted, do you actually agree with any of those?
 
You posted too many for me to go through individually. However, any person with an IQ over 100 should be able to see how stupid those are.
 
Ok a couple were low blows, but your just a pussy that cant take a punch. It seems thats some of those are very true and all you stupid liberals (besides ruggyro) can come up with is a video on retarded hicks making conservatives look bad.

Im tired of the but hurt liberals of ns trying to sound smart and not backing up there shit. Then telling me that im not open minded. Well guess what. My parents are far right wing(surprising huh?) but when they wont listen to both sides and start ranting on how obama is a terrible man, that pisses me off more than anything. As it also pisses me off when the far left wing wont listen either.

I did this to get a reaction and thats what I got. Its like the woman logic thread. No matter how true those might have been, most of the woman were butt hurt and made it worse for them selfs. Stop being a woman.

Zimmerman you have normally back your self up when I called you out, and I applaud you for that. But some of these kids are just being pussys.

Also the funny thing is that im on pain pills making all you unclear, left wing fagots that posted look like shit. Mmmmm'kay.
 
all you have provided are stupid memes. just wanted to show that it isn't hard to find stupid people on the opposite side of the aisle :)
 
After reading more and more of your posts, you actually seem kind of reasonable. It's reasonable to want backing. Right now I don't have the time to go through and refute all of those. When I do, I will. Promise. Those were so bad it will be easy but there were too many to tackle now.
 
i believe that the people who vote them into office are more dangerous than the politicians themselves.
 
well we need socialized healthcare, the private healthcare has become so terribleand you cant really get anything done in one term so i guess obama.
 
It's ridiculous how much time Republicans put towards Obama smoking weed when he was younger. First, who the hell hasnt smoked weed. Two, let's not forget Bush's coke addiction... I don't remember many republicans being up in arms about that. Three, he smoked marijuana...not that big of a deal.
 
especially when you get shot down because your name is prefaced by a "D." it also perplexes me that people think our current economic situation can be solved in as little as four years.
 
Yup I hate obama because he smoked weed. If it wasn't for the tokin he would be the most loved president ever. High five dude!
 
Oh look, now were arguing in a political thread with memes! Thats how we get rational discussions going!

This thread hasnt failed to bring the lolz, and the facepalms.
 
Because people's beliefs, particularly religious ones, inform their decision making regarding policy? I'm not saying moderately religious people would be overtly influenced in such a way, but candidates who campaign on their religious "chops" or piety and rally their base by saying things like "we'll return our once great nation to its Christian roots!" shit is fucking terrifying. That's a pretty thick thing to say bud.

Obvious areas of religion meets policy: prayer in school, abortion, marriage, commonlaw, interacting with other nations...
 
all very true. i guess in an ideal world, abortion and marriage wouldn't impact who gets to run a nation. it bothers me so that (at least those two things) are criteria that people care about when choosing someone.
 
look over the last two pages and you'll have a decent idea as to why I don't post like I use to. I actually comment in SG quite a bit, but I avoid NSG for the most part like the fucking plague. Every year it's a new crop of dipshits trotting out the same laughable arguments with their fingers in their ears.

Respect to you for having the patience, time and time again, you're a better man than I, sir.
 
I agree with you to a point, in that often those issues are trumped up beyond their actual impact on people's day to day lives and are used as distractions from other more significant issues. I disagree though in principle as an individual's stance on those issues are typically correlated with their thoughts on many others. For example, if someone objects to abortion on religious grounds, I can probably safely presume to know a bit more about their other beliefs. Clearly that's not a hard fast, concrete truth, but there's a likelihood.

Also, I actually think making voting decisions based on one or two concrete policy stances (whether they seem insignificant to someone else) is about as mature and informed a decision that most voters are capable of. It's impractical, and frankly absurd, to expect the average 20 yr old (like those in this thread...often the loudest) to have a comprehensive understanding of the nuances and subtleties of politics, which is why these arguments ultimately devolve into gross generalities and chest beating. Just because you aren't gay and looking to marry your partner or because you aren't a young woman contemplating abortion, that doesn't mean that there aren't some people to whom those things matter a great deal (just using those two issues as en example, you could use any). I think it better for someone to vote on an issue or two that are personally important to them, rather than to vote from a wishy-washy, vague comprehensive "death to big government and taxes" or the opposite equivalent liberal place.

Politics are complicated. The very nature of democracy is compromise, and when considering mutually exclusive concepts (i.e. abortion is legal, or it isn't...a binary, no such thing as half-legal) there really isn't a compromise. That's true with many things, and I'd rather people vote for specifics instead of, "well, I was raised in a conservative (or liberal) household so I'll stick with the home team from here on out".

I know that's rambling and possibly barely coherent, but whatever.

 
I'm with you dude. They are pathetically simple, like grade school level shit. Plus they are all about non-issue bullshit that shouldn't be brought up as politically relevant.
 
no, it was not rambling nor was it incoherent. i feel that you are very correct and have even made rethink some of my current political views and why i hold them. i am to have "crossed paths" with you on such a topic. thank you!
 
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I don't support either. but since you listen to the media you think they're the only two left in race. Ron Paul never backed out. Ron Paul because he has common sense. By the way who do you think Mitt Romney is funded by? Banks and large corporations. Who do you think he's going to owe? Banks and large corporations. The only reason Obama got in is because he's black, or is he?. He promised change and we got it; for the worst. Use some common sense. I bet 95% of people that don't support Ron Paul don't even know anything about him. Common sense isn't as common as you'd think.
 
the mere fact that you're open-minded enough to actually consider someone else's thoughts and try them on for size says a lot about you. I'm glad you found some value in what I said, and it's nice to have a discussion that doesn't go to that bullshit level that so many do here.
 
So fucking incorrect.

How about the fact he was a young successful Democratic Senator, and after 8 years of GW fuck-up the country didn't want another Republican in the white house?

Or that his opponent in 2008 was McCain/Palin?

fucking simpleminded bigot.

 
This thread is so fucking funny, but If I had to pick one of the two it would be Obama.

@ EmperorKuzco I was going to post that hahaha, so great.

Also someone should make more conservative logic, I wrote one out for another thread a while back.

Here are some I found (some are funny but of course generalized and partially untrue, same as liberal logic):

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^ most of those were pretty good I have to admit.

As for my contribution in this thread... I might have seemed like a one way dick head that doesn't listen to shit. But Ive actually learned a lot. Thank you to the rational people who actually knew what they were talking about and backed up there statements, It wasn't alot of you but some. Ive also learned I like both Romney and Obama less than I previously did (Mostly because I have done more research) but Im still for Romney at this point. Anyway some posts in here have defiantly opened my eyes, thank you.
 
I think that Obama has had a less than impressive performance as president, but I will be voting for him. On a fundamental level, even if I thought Romney would do better (which I am not convinced) I could not feel good about myself voting for someone who is as anti-gay, anti-womens' reproductive rights, anti-stem cell research etc it goes on and on. Stop moving forward and starts drfting back to the good old racist, sexist America that so many old shits cling to.

Go ahead and cockslap me with whatever figures you found on google about Obama's debt or lack of job creation or whatever I have seen them all. I just hate Mitt Romney and 99% of what he stands for
 
I can stand 4 years of shit society if Romney can manage to get the economy back on track. Besides, all this stuff has to get through the House and Congress anyway.
 
From what I understand, Romney is anti-gay marriage specifically. I don't see him being anti-gay, but his morals define marriage in the conservative sense for sure.

It does seem that this election will be a battle of money vs. morals though. I personally would like to see more freedom thrown at the moral side of that see-saw and less thrown at the ways in which we spend money. It doesn't really seem like that's an option this year though.

I guess what I'm most interested in is a leader who supports compromise and will push Congress to maintain a reasonable schedule when battling out the issues we ask them to change. I'm willing to find a middle ground on many of the important issues if it means we move forward and accept that we can't always get what we want....
 
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