Obama is going to cause the next great depression. want to earn 3 dollars and keep 1? Then vote obama!

Obamanomics Is a Recipe for Recession

By MICHAEL J. BOSKIN

July 29, 2008; Page A17

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What if I told you that a prominent global political

figure in recent months has proposed: abrogating key features of his

government's contracts with energy companies; unilaterally

renegotiating his country's international economic treaties;

dramatically raising marginal tax rates on the "rich" to levels not

seen in his country in three decades (which would make them among the

highest in the world); and changing his country's social insurance

system into explicit welfare by severing the link between taxes and

benefits?

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The first name that came to mind would probably not be

Barack Obama, possibly our nation's next president. Yet despite his

obvious general intelligence, and uplifting and motivational eloquence,

Sen. Obama reveals this startling economic illiteracy in his policy

proposals and economic pronouncements. From the property rights and

rule of (contract) law foundations of a successful market economy to

the specifics of tax, spending, energy, regulatory and trade policy, if

the proposals espoused by candidate Obama ever became law, the American

economy would suffer a serious setback.

To be sure, Mr. Obama has been clouding these

positions as he heads into the general election and, once elected,

presidents sometimes see the world differently than when they are

running. Some cite Bill Clinton's move to the economic policy center

following his Hillary health-care and 1994 Congressional election

debacles as a possible Obama model. But candidate Obama starts much

further left on spending, taxes, trade and regulation than candidate

Clinton. A move as large as Mr. Clinton's toward the center would still

leave Mr. Obama on the economic left.

Also, by 1995 the country had a Republican Congress to

limit President Clinton's big government agenda, whereas most political

pundits predict strengthened Democratic majorities in both Houses in

2009. Because newly elected presidents usually try to implement the

policies they campaigned on, Mr. Obama's proposals are worth exploring

in some depth. I'll discuss taxes and trade, although the story on his

other proposals is similar.

First, taxes. The table nearby demonstrates what could

happen to marginal tax rates in an Obama administration. Mr. Obama

would raise the top marginal rates on earnings, dividends and capital

gains passed in 2001 and 2003, and phase out itemized deductions for

high income taxpayers. He would uncap Social Security taxes, which

currently are levied on the first $102,000 of earnings. The result is a

remarkable reduction in work incentives for our most economically

productive citizens.

The top 35% marginal income tax rate rises to 39.6%;

adding the state income tax, the Medicare tax, the effect of the

deduction phase-out and Mr. Obama's new Social Security tax (of up to

12.4%) increases the total combined marginal tax rate on additional

labor earnings (or small business income) from 44.6% to a whopping

62.8%. People respond to what they get to keep after tax, which the

Obama plan reduces from 55.4 cents on the dollar to 37.2 cents -- a

reduction of one-third in the after-tax wage!

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Despite the rhetoric, that's not just on "rich"

individuals. It's also on a lot of small businesses and two-earner

middle-aged middle-class couples in their peak earnings years in high

cost-of-living areas. (His large increase in energy taxes, not

documented here, would disproportionately harm low-income Americans.

And, while he says he will not raise taxes on the middle class, he'll

need many more tax hikes to pay for his big increase in spending.)

On dividends the story is about as bad, with rates

rising from 50.4% to 65.6%, and after-tax returns falling over 30%.

Even a small response of work and investment to these lower returns

means such tax rates, sooner or later, would seriously damage the

economy.

On economic policy, the president proposes and

Congress disposes, so presidents often wind up getting the favorite

policy of powerful senators or congressmen. Thus, while Mr. Obama also

proposes an alternative minimum tax (AMT) patch, he could instead wind

up with the permanent abolition plan for the AMT proposed by the Ways

and Means Committee Chairman Charlie Rangel (D., N.Y.) -- a 4.6%

additional hike in the marginal rate with no deductibility of

state income taxes. Marginal tax rates would then approach 70%, levels

not seen since the 1970s and among the highest in the world. The

after-tax return to work -- the take-home wage for more time or effort

-- would be cut by more than 40%.

Now trade. In the primaries, Sen. Obama was famously

protectionist, claiming he would rip up and renegotiate the North

American Free Trade Agreement (Nafta). Since its passage (for which

former President Bill Clinton ran a brave anchor leg, given opposition

to trade liberalization in his party), Nafta has risen to almost

mythological proportions as a metaphor for the alleged harm done by

trade, globalization and the pace of technological change.

Yet since Nafta was passed (relative to the comparable

period before passage), U.S. manufacturing output grew more rapidly and

reached an all-time high last year; the average unemployment rate

declined as employment grew 24%; real hourly compensation in the

business sector grew twice as fast as before; agricultural exports

destined for Canada and Mexico have grown substantially and trade among

the three nations has tripled; Mexican wages have risen each year since

the peso crisis of 1994; and the two binational Nafta environmental

institutions have provided nearly $1 billion for 135 environmental

infrastructure projects along the U.S.-Mexico border.

In short, it would be hard, on balance, for any

objective person to argue that Nafta has injured the U.S. economy,

reduced U.S. wages, destroyed American manufacturing, harmed our

agriculture, damaged Mexican labor, failed to expand trade, or worsened

the border environment. But perhaps I am not objective, since Nafta

originated in meetings James Baker and I had early in the Bush 41

administration with Pepe Cordoba, chief of staff to Mexico's President

Carlos Salinas.

Mr. Obama has also opposed other important free-trade

agreements, including those with Colombia, South Korea and Central

America. He has spoken eloquently about America's responsibility to

help alleviate global poverty -- even to the point of saying it would

help defeat terrorism -- but he has yet to endorse, let alone

forcefully advocate, the single most potent policy for doing so: a

successful completion of the Doha round of global trade liberalization.

Worse yet, he wants to put restrictions into trade treaties that would

damage the ability of poor countries to compete. And he seems to see no

inconsistency in his desire to improve America's standing in the eyes

of the rest of the world and turning his back on more than six decades

of bipartisan American presidential leadership on global trade

expansion. When trade rules are not being improved, nontariff barriers

develop to offset the liberalization from the current rules. So no

trade liberalization means creeping protectionism.

History teaches us that high taxes and protectionism

are not conducive to a thriving economy, the extreme case being the

higher taxes and tariffs that deepened the Great Depression. While such

a policy mix would be a real change, as philosophers remind us, change

is not always progress.

Mr. Boskin, professor of economics at Stanford

University and senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, was chairman of

the Council of Economic Advisers under President George H.W. Bush.
 
how would you feel if you worked 12 hours a day to feed your children, knowing that if it werent for taxes you could work 4 hours a day to earn the same amount? You might need to have a job to understand this.
 
how old are you, can you vote or are you just repeating everything that mommy says, the last 8 years republicans have put us into this mess that were in now, mccain would just make it worse
 
just kidding.

Its just been the first time ive seen a political arguemnt on NS without there being some one making jokes that everyone else seems to ignore.
 
He needs a tax increase to support the new programs that he proposed. Assuming its his programs that you like, unless you want him to be like bush and increase spending and lower taxes, driving our nation into greater and greater debt, then the tax increase is necessary. come on now, grow up and think.

I am in no way a barak supporter, its annoying when children speak without thinking or knowing anything.
 
he wants to do alot of things that will actually save money that i agree with like getting out of iraq and not throwing the entire country in jail for doing drugs
 
Obama is the first black man to beat a white woman and not go to jail.

Hehehe.

Goodbye serious political thread.
 
Obama is going to get assasinated very quickly if he's president so I wouldn't worry about this. I don't want to see it happen or anything but there's a lot of White power stuff left in amerca and I just hope he picks a good vice president.
 
You missed the point yeah it does but i wont save the same amount that we have domestically in the US. Both should be done if we drill our own oil and conserve oil prices and gas prices will drasticly go down
 
the best part is the the black dude behind him is the first one to stand up and start clapping, and then when he brushes the other shoulder that dude is flipping shit like it's the sweetest thing he'll ever see, haha so dope.
 
people's opinions have to be formulated some how. He read that article in a credible source and agrees with it.
 
bah, i can formulate opinions on anything i want without even knowing what they are. i call it my douchebag reflex. for instance, my opinion on tomorrows newspaper is that it's all a bunch of bullshit. see, that's talent.
 
Honestly, you just read a single article, copied it onto here. The United States already is in a depression. That article doesn't make much sense either. (I am an economist)
 
we are not in a depression. we were in a recession, but the GDP grew 1.2% today so that means we are no longer in a recession.
 
I like how pretty much everyone here probably took one look at an article from a very legitimate source and was like, "WTF?! This doesn't say Obama is the savior of mankind?! You're a moron/douchebag/McCain lover!"

Dear God I hate political discussions on NS.

 
I must be taking them too seriously then...for the most part, I just look at them, get momentarily angry, shake my head, and be thankful that most of these people can't vote.

 
Yeah, i've provided my opinions in many threads

...sitting this one out, thank god

and fuck you to the people thinking in their minds, thanks for sitting out
 
theres only one reason why io would never vote for barack obama (wat da fuck kind a name is that anyway): becasue hes a negro. i will never vote for a negro andneither should you whiteys.

and dont call me racist casue im a nigga too.
 
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