Obama bypassing congress to make sricter gun laws....

11 pages of arguing. Still everyone ignoring the fact that the executive orders didnt take away anyones guns.
 
Asking Congress to restore the Assault Weapons Ban of the 90's is taking away guns from civilians as they would be unable to purchase them due to the halt of production. That is what I am most upset with. I don't care about background checks because I am a law abiding citizen and I pass them with flying colors, but the Assault Weapons ban of 94-04' has been proven to do nothing to decrease violent crime. Why does such a law need to be reinstated if it has been proven to do nothing??? That is what I have such a problem with.
 
Not an executive order? This thread started talking about

OBAMA BYPASSING CONGRESS

In typical fear mongering fashion acting like the dreaded Obama was going to snatch guns out of peoples homes.

He didn't. At all.

Congress wont repass the assault weapons ban, the House might but Republican controlled senate wont. Your guns are fine.
 
Exactly when I had a gun pointed at me I absolutely had no time to do anything. That's exactly what the statistic is talking about if you were saying you would've tried to pull out a gun and shoot him. When I was robbed there was no way I had any time to do anything I put my hands up and gave the guy my wallet. That's it you would not have time to draw your gun and shoot You seem to have a false sense of security of what you can and can't do with a gun.
 
The constitution limits governmental powers and gives us our rights. Why are you questioning the document that allows you your freedoms?

I mean sure if you want overarching government and no rights and big brother like 1984, by all means...but so long as the constitution is the founding document of our country, and the government is bound to uphold it, we can hold that off for just a while longer.
 
because i don't think it is a flawless document that is immune to questioning. it was written in 1776. that was 237 years ago. before electricity. before cars. before planes. before machine guns. before nuclear bombs. before computers. before the internet. things change. as i said, it's awfully narrow-minded to think it should remain the same after all these years even though so much about the way we live has changed. i mean do you agree that the constitution was correct in saying that black people are only worth 3/5ths of white people? is that something you believe? do you not think they should have changed that? do you not think that allowing slavery massively limited the freedom of black people? clearly the constitution is an imperfect document. there is no reason NOT to question it and see if we can change it to make it better and stronger.

and, no, that doesn't mean that i want an overarching government that allows me no rights or freedoms. not sure where you got that idea from.
 
you know that was signed in 1864, right? and you do know the constitution was originally put into action in 1776, right? as in america went almost 100 years with slavery being perfectly legal. you talk about the constitution being in place to give citizens rights and freedoms. i can't thing of anything infringing on a person's freedom more than being told you can be legally owned by another person and have to do exactly what they say exactly when they say it.

so, yes, the constitution was written saying slavery is cool. luckily americans realized it wasn't actually cool and infringed a hell of a lot on the freedoms of black people and looked at the constitution again and changed it. not really sure why you brought this up? it seems to support my point perfectly; that the constitution, as it was originally written, was an imperfect document and that it is silly to never want to change or touch as time passes and society changes. this is exactly what Lincoln did, and, i hope, you agree that it was the right thing to do.
 
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