I've got a Medic, and I like it, it's super warm, and I've never gotten wet in it, with that said however... If I could've gotten the same deal on the Francis 7 as I did on the Medic, I would've snatched the Francis up like there was no tomorrow. My next outerwear purchase will most definitely be the Francis 7 (cause I like one peice suits) or the Logan 5 jacket and pants...they are mad functional and amazingly made...plus Pollard rides for Helly, and as we all know, Pollard is God...and if Helly is good enough for God then I'm pretty sure I want it.