NS computer builders, come hither.

Look up any comparisons for nvidia cards vs amd's... 7970 blows the 680 out of the water, same with the 7950 vs the 660 ti and the 7870 vs the 660, etc. Plus they can overclock much better, and are cheaper. As I said the only reason to buy nvidia is for CUDA (or possibly Physx), but now a lot of programs are switching over to openCL so it doesn't matter.

Cpu is debatable, though I'd personally just get a cheaper fx 8320/oc it (or a 6300) and spend more on the gpu. And seasonic/xfx power supplies not seagate lol.

 
the overclocking might be attributed to the maker of the card and the software they product. Example, ASUS makes both a 7850 and a 660. I bought the 7850 cause it was a couple bucks cheaper but not much. almost shelled out. Both would overclock well as they both have the heatsink and fans. You can pretty much max them out if you want cause the heat management is crazy.

Also AMD has eyefinity is that gets your boxers wet as well.
 
I'm not talking about the physical fans and heatsink etc, the cards themselves just have more overclock headroom than nvidia's. For example the 7970 in general, regardless of the maker/brand overclocks much better than the 680
 
yeah for sure, i think its pointless spending 100 less on an amd processor, but thats just me.

And yes, for artsy fartsy stuff i require a 3930k and gtx 660ti lolz
 
depends on the program, you might want a 3770K for running final cut and doing lots of editing, but spending money on more ram, an SSD, and stuff of that nature might be smart too, cause you don't want to bottleneck.

 
Why would you think i'd want a 4 core over 6 core? I do a ton of multitasking and my gpu helps a ton with premiere too. I have an ssd boot drive and 16gb of ram, gonna upgrade to 32 too because i use ALL 16gb when i export.
 
Oh yeah, passmark is definitely a good benchmarking software. Obviously a 670 and 680 will outpreform a 690, i mean of course. It's not like the 690 is a dual gpu version of the 680 or anything. But actually most of it just depends on which game you play. There's obviously going to be stuff like bf3 and skyrim which run way better on nvidia cards but then other games (metro, crysis to an extent) run better on amds. The 7970 is also cheaper than the 680 and overclocks better (not that any of this is worth arguing about since op probably won't get either of them and the next generation of cards will probably be out when he purchases his computer)

some actual benchmarks...

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/618?vs=555

http://www.techspot.com/review/603-best-graphics-cards/

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/384852-33-7970

http://www.overclock.net/t/1369871/another-7970-vs-680

https://teksyndicate.com/forum/gpu/hd-7970-gtx-670-or-gtx-680/123934

https://teksyndicate.com/forum/gpu/680-or-7970/138129

If you look at some actual benchmarks you will see the opposite of what you just tried to claim [/douche comment]
 
The issue is and the reason they don't include them, is the quadros would get smoked in a test like that, well at least until you get up to the k5000. This would in turn put people off and make them believe a GeForce is more powerful. But it's as we know just not the case. Geforces are optimised for games whereas quadros have way better drivers, better redundancy ect. So they can not be seriously compared, until you look at the cindebench scores and maya tests. Having run a GeForce and a quadro I can tell you I would never go back to a consumer card and now that the k2000 costs less then a 680 if you don't play games I don't think there is any point using them.

However there is one catch. For adobe program's you will actually find that GeForce cards are the fastest out of GeForce, quadro, radeon or firepro. So if your using the adobe products they will quietly tell you that workstation cards are not needed, a fact nvidia are not happy about. But for me I have moved away from adobe for all work other then photoshop, so quadro is a clear choice.

One last point for any one that's interested, the Titan is not working with adobe program's yet. So the top card was the 680. Presumably this will be replaced by the 700 series. But yeah Titan is not an option yet which is a real shame.
 
I mean if I was to drop that much on a card I'd probably get a pimp workstation setup, but that's me.

But don't worry, QXZYwhatever thinks gaming is the main standard for all graphics cards, so we don't have to consider adobe or other real life performance standards that gpus are usually tested and used for.
 
I mean if I was to drop that much on a card I'd probably get a pimp workstation setup, but that's me.

But don't worry, QXZYwhatever thinks gaming is the main standard for all graphics cards, so we don't have to consider adobe or other real life performance standards that gpus are usually tested and used for.
 
What a good argument dude. You're just too smart. In gaming and gpu computing amd does better. Of course if there were a premiere benchmark nvidia would win since it's the only one with CUDA... but in just about everything else amd wins.

I mean if I'm clearly losing in an argument, and attempting to call somebody out for claiming doesn't work I guess the only thing to do is to agree to disagree right? I mean for fucks sake...

 
He means you guys will continue to disagree because you guys are talking about completely different situations. You think you're right and he thinks he's right, you guys aren't going anywhere so shut the fuck up
 
Built mine a few months ago for a similar price range. Ended up splurging on a fancy $100 case, but I got a better deal on the processor from Microcenter.

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This setup has worked great so far, just played through AC3 on max settings and my processor never went above 50%.
 
Also, I knew nothing about building pcs before watching this three part series. Really good at covering all the basics

 
threadjack: anyone know a good full tower ATX case or alternate to a mid-tower that I have now that sucks with airflow? Anyone ever build something in a rack mounted case?
 
If your after a good mid case look at the colermaster 609 ver2. It's a much bigger case then it seems. It even lets you run the h100 in the top and still have room for an additional 5 140mm fans and a 120 mm exhaust. You can even have a 90mm behind the CPU if you want. Has a lot if space for airflow for amid case and loads of room down the back for cable management.

With regards to rack mount, I think your only going to benefit if you have quite a few other rack mounted device. The point of a rack is so you can stack things in a smaller space, but if you just have 1 item your using up more space then just a normal case. So really it comes down to what else you have
 
I would recommend more than a 650 watt power supply, Because in the future say you want to add another graphics card to run dual sli, your going to need more power. So my advice is to give your self room to expand.
 
When buying a new case you need to consider a lot of things. For example do you want it to be super quiet, do you want it to have a window, do you need room for lots of water cooling equipment such as radiators, pumps and a res - I mean proper custom water cooling not all-in-one coolers like the Corsair H series.

And do you really need a full tower? Lots of mid towers have excellent air flow, just as good or even better as many full towers. A full tower is only really necessary if you're watercooling, have a multi GPU setup or a motherboard that is larger then the standard ATX.

Anyway for full towers take a look at:

Corsiar 800D/900D

Coolermaster Cosmos II, HAF X and Storm Stryker

NZXT Phantom 620 and 820

Fractal Design Define XLR2

For mid towers:

Corsair 600T, 650D, C70

Antec P280

Fractal Design Define R4

NZXT Phantom 410
 
I'll +1 for the fractal R4. If I was to get a case, I like that one. My friend has a fractal and it's nice and lots of people seem to be fond of it. lots of fans and a dust filter i believe. /g/ likes it as well.

I just need to get the funds for a build. I want to play C&C4 among other things.

 
oh mannn there's a sick weekend deal on newegg for a whole kit with a new haswell chip. it'd cost me a little under 700 altogether. the video card is a little weak but I could crossfire or upgrade.
 
Sorry for the double post.Antec VP-450

450 Watt Energy Star Certified Power Supply $38

GIGABYTE

GA-970A-D3 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard $75

WD Blue 1 TB Desktop Hard Drive:

3.5 Inch, 7200 RPM, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64 MB Cache $66

Corsair

Vengeance Blue 8 GB (2X4 GB) SDRAM Dual Channel Memory Kit $67

NZXT Guardian

Black SECC Steel Chassis ATX Mid Tower Case 921RB-RL $69

Gigabyte AMD

Radeon HD 7850 2 GB GDDR5 DVI-I/HDMI/2x mini-Displayport PCI-Express 3.0

Graphic Card $194

AMD FX-6300

FX-Series Six-Core Processor Edition, Black AM3 $120

 
I have a 7850 in my rig and I love it so far. Mine is an ASUS though which I would recomend. That gigabtye isn't bad, but it does only have one DVI. The 2 mini displays are nice i guy making it future proof because display port will be the new standard in terms of monitor hookups. The ability to daisy chain(to my understanding) make it largely superior to other input varieties and for things like Eyefinity like the 7850 has the ability to hook up 6 monitors from just the single graphics card and display port will make this vastly easier without having to have 6 million cords coming out your computer for those huge multi-monitor setups that everyone loves. Price is a bit high for it too, i got my asus for like 155 bucks off newegg during a sale and for 194 bucks you could probably pick up a 660ti which technically is a better card from a benchmark standpoint.

I've heard a bit about the 6300, almost bought one before i decided i could spend like 40-50 bucks more and get a 8350 that is a 8 core that clocks in at 4.0ghz stock and can easily be overclocked to 4.6 but for that mobo the 6300 will work great IMO.

Case isn't that bad, a case is really a case though, look for decent fan mounts, good cable management routes(I made this mistake and didn't do this), and well all the features you want as well as a size to fit your components(ATX Mobo fits, Power Supply, etc etc). NZXT I've heard makes pretty good cases in terms of airflow.

Ram is ram, but the chosen mobo accepts up to 1866mhz ram in a duel channel arangement and for 3 bucks cheaper I think this G.Skill Ram is better. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231455&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL062813&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL062813-_-EMC-062813-Latest-_-DesktopMemory-_-20231455-L09D You'll have to go into your bios to make sure your ram is running at the speed, and that X series stuff gets great reviews.

The mobo should fit your needs fine. I like my ASUS board mainly for the quality as well as the bios, because the ASUS bios is easy as all hell. The Gigabtye one does have the charging function so it can charge devices when the device is off but I honestly think my ASUS board has the same thing just unadvertised(red ports?). 6 sata 6gb/s ports which is enough for sure, only 2 cables so you need a sata port/cable, plus power for every HDD, SSD and Disk Drive you put in so keep that in mind. The PCI Express Slots are only 2.0 and you can run two cards in SLI or Crossfire but one is 16x and one is 4x so keep that in mine, and PCI Express 3.0 doesn't even exist on any AMD boards(difference is minuscule though). Lastly no USB 3.0 Headers on the board but that's fine because you case can't take advantage of that anyways but you do only have 2 on the back.

Power supply is probably a no in my book. You usually want to get a good power supply because a bad psu can kill all your other parts. Also you might want to invest in something that takes a bit more juice just in case you want to upgrade (add more HDDs, SSDs, GPUs, etc). Don't go two high because you want to stay repetitively close, I'd say 650w max, but at least get a 500w. Make sure its at least bronze 80 plus certified and modular is also a good thing to have to help your airflow.

HDD is fine.

also these videos might be useful for your budget.

(Smaller Board won't work with your case)

those guys create some pretty good builds and might give you a decent baseline.

 
thats the one im currently running.

i got it on sale though for a damn good price. ASUS GPU tweak is so easy to use and I overclocked it to the max. Will idle round like 55C Max load which isn't horrible for graphics card. Just on default the thing idles at like 27C which is cold as fuck for computer parts. Running TF2(not the most intense game but its something) at max settings it only got up to around 30C with the stock clock.

Honestly I have both an ASUS mobo and GPU and have no complaints so far. Granted their stuff might be a bit more expensive but i feel like it worth it for the quality i have received.
 
Hey there computer people... I was bored, and put ubuntu back on my 2010 MBP. Now I can't change the screen brightness. My eyes hurt. I solved this problem last time, but it was a while ago. I remember having the option to not use the nvidia proprietary graphics driver and use the open source one, which solved the problem. I think that's what I did. But I don't seem to have that driver now. So anybody know how to fix this?
 
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