North Face Hyvent vs. Bloom 20k Waterproofing

rickmorty

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No idea how to compare northfaces 189g/m^2 waterproof rating to 20K that bloom posts up. Plus the fact waterproof ratings are kinda ambiguous, so if anyone can weigh in on which pant keeps your ass dry the best that'd be much appreciated!
 
North Face is high quality stuff. But like you said I have no idea how to compare it when they say g/m instead of K. That being said I have Bloom and have yet to get wet. HIghly recommend. Stylish and affordable, oh and durability hasn't been a problem either.
 
13356341:.lencon said:
North Face is high quality stuff. But like you said I have no idea how to compare it when they say g/m instead of K. That being said I have Bloom and have yet to get wet. HIghly recommend. Stylish and affordable, oh and durability hasn't been a problem either.

Cool, so can't really go wrong either way. Have you used any north face stuff for comparison? Never actually ridden NF stuff before. Bloom stuff looks so nice though, just wanna make sure I get the one that withstands the shitty season people have been having in western Canada this year.
 
I don't own any technical North Face cause it freaking expensive, but I have used some of my dads stuff. Honestly they both functioned pretty equally. I even like the Bloom more cause they cater to free skiing kind of so there vents, magnets, gaiters, all sorts of cool shit.
 
13356360:.lencon said:
I don't own any technical North Face cause it freaking expensive, but I have used some of my dads stuff. Honestly they both functioned pretty equally. I even like the Bloom more cause they cater to free skiing kind of so there vents, magnets, gaiters, all sorts of cool shit.

Truth, if you do the math the 60 psi Northface advertises turns out to be around 20k. It's more todo with the quality of the DWR coating and how long it will last on the fabric. I've got an older bloom jacket and had it on a shit day at grouse, like literally pouring rain and I just got damp, maybe a bit wet on the chest near the zipper, but besides goretex you'd be fucked in anything, my pants literally soaked through the zippers. Long story short it did a damn good job all things considered and still retains most of its water proofing. Never owned anything Northface either so I can't comment on the longevity of their product. But damn does Blooms stuff look prime this year.
 
Had some generic black North Face pants and they were awesome. Not sure what the rating was but they stayed dry even after repeatedly sitting on soaked chairlifts. They were also super durable. Had reinforced cuffs that stayed in mint condition no matter how many times I accidentally buckled em into the binding.. (they were 2xl so it happened a lot)

Bottom line is TNF makes some quality gear, but like previously stated you can't go wrong with either.
 
grams/m*2 usually is used to refer to breathability (the amount of water vapor that passes through a m*2 the fabric in 24hrs)

waterproofness is typically expressed in mm of water that can be put in a 1"x 1" tube before the fabric will leak (20k being 20000mm of water)

of course you could also list waterproofness as grams if you wanted to do the math for how many grams of pressure a mm of water in a 1"^2 tube exerts but that would be kinda weird

There are a bunch of different teirs of hyvent fabric so maybe a link to the pants you are thinking of getting could lead to more helpful answers

The last thing is that seam taping and build quality is sometimes more important than the actual fabric because that's where most leaks happen anyways.
 
13357262:roach1324 said:
grams/m*2 usually is used to refer to breathability (the amount of water vapor that passes through a m*2 the fabric in 24hrs)

waterproofness is typically expressed in mm of water that can be put in a 1"x 1" tube before the fabric will leak (20k being 20000mm of water)

of course you could also list waterproofness as grams if you wanted to do the math for how many grams of pressure a mm of water in a 1"^2 tube exerts but that would be kinda weird

There are a bunch of different teirs of hyvent fabric so maybe a link to the pants you are thinking of getting could lead to more helpful answers

The last thing is that seam taping and build quality is sometimes more important than the actual fabric because that's where most leaks happen anyways.

Specifically TNF Freedom pants, they're affordable, just can't tell if that's cause they're cheap and shitty or if its actually good value.
 
13358238:rickmorty said:
Specifically TNF Freedom pants, they're affordable, just can't tell if that's cause they're cheap and shitty or if its actually good value.

Good pants but good value is a matter of opinion. TNF has factory outlet stores and often goes on huge sales both at the outlet and elsewhere. My wife and I have been happy with various TNF Hyvent pants that we have bought on sale at the Woodburn outlet.
 
I have a NF Jeppeson jacket and earlier this year I was skiing in Stratton and it was dumping rain and I only got a little moist. Areas like cuffs and near the zipper are the weakest but I'm happy with the jacket.
 
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