Normal people think we are assholes... (rant)

I don't think "normal" (I would use the phrase "non-freestyle skier") people hate us, I think that they don't understand us and they only judge us on the bad apples.

I was in the gondola at Whiteface yesterday and two "twin tip" kids were in there. They got to talking and were making complete fools of themselves acting all gangsta and being completely disrespectful. Calling other people "queers" while we passes some skiers skiing backwards. They tried to make fun of everyone in the gondola until I called them out on their bullshit for thinking they were hot shit. When we got out of the lift I heard someone mumble, "typical" as the two morons exited. I skied over and introduced myself and asked him to please not judge our sport based on two morons. I went on to explain to him what I do for NS, that most of us just love being on the mountain, and a few morons do not represent the masses.

This is will become a serious problem and it needs to stop now. Being quiet or standing aside will not work anymore. We're going to have to become pro active in making sure everyone is representing our sport correctly. Be polite on the lifts. Explain to people what our sport is about and that we're not a bunch of punks. Follow the mountain's rules no matter how ridiculous (obviously if you have a problem with terrain park rules, go to the appropriate people and express your concerns in a polite way). Of course there will always be the few that try to ruin it but if people are exposed to a polite group of articulate freeskiers, they'll be less likely to trash our sport and have more respect for what we're doing.
 
Matt tell your friends to stop being pussys and not give a shit what others think. Also, stand up for yourself and tell the hater what you think flat out. In conclusion shape up, ship out and tell haters they can fuck off.
 
^???. im not saying yeah rite on, make fun of kids starting out in the park, ofcourse i think its week. its just a non issue. it will always happen like that. like i said, survival of the fittest.
 
Its the fucking gansta kids. We all know they look fucking retarded to anyone outside the ns community. Its just a fact of life, you cant argue that.
 
survival of the fittest? That's the most ignorant thing I've ever heard. None os us were born with God given talent and everyone is learning at their own pace. Be happy people are out there having fun and you're having fun. Help people out, who knows you might make a friend.

 
Dude, you realize we used to be people who judged others all the time? Like, Nate really didn't want to ski with you/parker/johnny, etc. for a while because he thought that you'd make a lot of fun of him and stuff (which we do haha...only in a good way though). We can be kind of dicks to people we don't know. We need to be more accepting of people so that we can chill with more peeps like charlie who know how to build a good jump and are just good people in general. You never know until you meet them...

I told my friends to just ignore them, but they won't go into the park until they have learned a 360 solidly. So...no park for a while for them.
 
take a chill pill max. you misunderstood what i was trying to say. ofcourse not everyone is born with natural talent all im saying is the kid who really is into riding hardcore and loves it with a passion isnt going to get concerned or scared off because some kids had a laugh at his expense. that kid will keep showing up and eventually get respect.
 
Yes but not all are that cool and collected or "ridin' hardcore", young kids especially. Instead of turning our sport into a group of people that can take it, why not embrace everyone in the park that's trying to learn. If kids are making fun of someone, be the BIGGER man and tell them to chill out. The only people that we should really be concerned about is ourselves and the people that are likely to hurt themselves because they're using the elements improperly.

Joking around with friends is one thing but ragging on others for whack style or being a beginner is ridiculous. I guarantee if you saw Schmuck and I skiing at Sunday River, you wouldn't have been impressed but we were having fun and that's all that matters.
 
^ofcourse. in an ideal world loosers like that shouldnt exist. personally im down with anyone who into having a good time newschool skiin but hazing will always be around its not particular to skiing or sports.
 
I don't mean to keep quoting you but I really think this is something important.

There's a huge difference between what's being mentioned here and "hazing." Hazing is a right of initiation into a group. Making a guy take three shots of jack (drinking out of shoe for my unofficial NS staff initiation at IF3) is different than making fun of someone you don't know.
 
I don't have a problem with people who actually try to do stuff. Its just...

1.People who ski the park like its a normal run

2.Parents who bring their kids over and stand on the landing so they can watch their kids go off the side of a kicker

3.People who have no idea about park edicit and just go whenever they feel like it

4.People who think they're "hotshit" even though they can't ski to save their life

5.Constantly yelling off the chairlift
 
you should ski in the midwest its real chill. Like everyone who skis in the park are all friends and pretty inviting. At least from my experiences
 
I completely agree, I feel bad for some of my friends because they are not very good and they think they look like pussys because they dont hit the same things as me.
 
Solution: midwest. There is seriously nowhere I can think of where the people are assholes in the midwest. You can even go to panorama, where they now have a decent park, and you'll be like... the best person if you hit a large. If you get that kind of shit at a resort, then go somewhere where the park might be shittier, but the people are better. You'll probably be better off there than at the other place.
 
me too, but i also hate the kids that suck and they yell at you cuz you fall while trying something.

so i was at squaw valley, and i was trying a 270 on butter 360 270 out on a 40 ft box, and i ate shit cuz i fell off at about my butter 180 and i fell and tumbled down and lost both my skis, and these two kids on the lift yelled at me and said that i suck, and then i got on the lift and saw them and they werent trying anything except going 50-50 on a short like 8 ft box, and one of them fell super hard when he tried to do a rail, and i didnt say shit.
 
Most people are all talk. I prefer to let my skiing speak for itself.

We are skiers or snowboarders or snowbladers or whatever. We all have the fact that we have spent some time and money and effort to go to a hill and slide down snow. I don't understand why we insist on putting up barriers between each other, or hating on what other people are doing, when what we are doing is so similar.

I can't force change in what others are doing, only myself. I hope that I exude a warm and friendly demeanor, and that while the average person might judge me by the fact that I have baggy clothes and those skis with two tips on them, I am just out there trying to have fun and live the one life I have been given the best I know. Maybe I might show some people a different way to relate to the world, and maybe the they decide to give it a go.

"Only way to be a leader, lead by the way you live." - Blackalicious.

I challenge NS, as a community, to be that positive influence on the slopes. Don't hate, ski for yourself and for fun. Encourage people, and help them if you can. Conduct yourself politely, and remember that you represent us all when you are out there.

I would love to see it become that the NS sticker is a symbol of a person who is approachable, friendly, and stoked on the sport and others who participate in it.

It's up to you.
 
the only thing that made me better was when people encouraged me. the right of passage is stomping harder and harder tricks. next time i see somebody spray a kid and call it a right of passage i will spray the shit out of them with the poor basterd they sprayed.... cut the bullshit and support the movement.
 
Interestingly, the vibe around the mountain and in parks is so different in the US to Australia. At home everyone's pretty chill just doing there thing, but in the US people are calling you out in the liftline for what you're wearing/riding, and the park is just brutal in terms of people being arses. I wonder if it's the same in Europe (I mean, if it's more like Aus there)
 
aww man i know i hate people when they are dicks to people. this sport needs to be about the love.
 
i honestly have no issue with people in the park if they are learning or trying shit i mean we all learn and we all eat shit. i DO however get pissed when people come in and just kind of ride through and especially when they ride down the back side of the jumps super slow so no one can see them. i mean there is ok you aren't good but you are learning which i totally respect. but when you come into the park and endanger people trying to hit the features more than they already are i get mad

for example: last year i was at keystone and they had this really tall wide box that had a pretty big gap to get onto and everything. i am riding through trying to hit it and what do i see? two boarders on top of it with their boards off getting a fucking picture. that is when it needs to stop.
 
I remember at my mountain when the park was pretty much only for snowboarders. people would throw snowballs at me but hey I just kept going in there and proving my shit and look at where we are now!

Just don't be afraid and have some balls...
 
I really think there is kind of a fine between asshole, and just having a good time.

Yes, there are the people who seriously hate on kids who are not good. Those guy's should just be ignored. They are just that kind of person. They're the same person who will yell out a car window at someone, or just be an asshole. Then they may happen to ski or snowboard. It's the person they are. This is when I believe in just ingoring them. Honestly, who cares what some asshole thinks of you? Just ski and do what you want. Don't be self conscious.

Then there is the light hearted making fun of people. I do it all the time. If someone falls, and it's funny, I'll laugh my ass off. I expect people to laugh at me if I throw down a good fall and double eject all over the hill, or go too slow and awkwardly fall off a rail. It's a part of skiing. But if that same person were to come up to me and strike up a convorsation I'll talk to them like one of my friends.

A lot of times, younger or more beginer kids will be intimidated for no reason. I may look intimidating because I wear XXL clothing and ski aggressively, but if you talk to me i'm gonna be the nicest person ever. I do nothing but have fun on the mountain.
 
I AGREE !KIDS WHO MAKE THEM SELFS FEEL BIG BY MAKING OTHERS FEEL SMALL ARE TOOLS! you dont know me. dont instruct me on what to cut and what to support.
 
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east coast as i know it isnt much like cocky crews and jerks. im startin park this year so i can do like nothin but switch on and barely a 3, and my bro is nasty whos like a year older than me. i hang with him and the crew [its a mix with boarders and skiiers 2] hes always with and they include me in the lodge and on the lift and stuff, and i get nervous goin up to a rail hopin i dont fall cause theyre all insane. but i never get laughed at or commented in a negative way ever.

peace coast
 
by the way why is it that mountains have racial problems? thats just wrong. i mean ill joke around with any of my friends that are racers and kinda make fun of them but they just laugh cuz im not serious. and a buncha pros have racing backgrounds. but seriously a ton of mountains have problems between boarders skiiers and racers a lot.
 
I think you are confused as to the meaning of racial.

And yes, most racers are a bunch of assholes themselves.

Its funny how you can smoke them on a pair of big wide floppy twins when they just spend like 2gs on their setup just to smear their turns all the way down
 
If you think all racers are assholes, then you're a narrowminded tool, and if you think you can smoke all racers, then your conception of good skiing is seriously fucked up. Go take a skiing lesson, then get in a course and try to beat them. I can guarantee you will be supremely embarassed, and will regret ever talking shit about racers. Besides, they feed our sport because half the pros in freeskiing came out of racing. Hating on them is like hating on mogul skiers, snowboarders, no polers, big mountain skiers, park rats, or recreational skiers. Everyone skis because they love the sport. Its a common thing amongst all types of skiing or snowboarding. Why don't you let that bring people together instead of separating them?
 
Explain where I have shown any hypocrisy.

I try to get my friends INTO the park, not piss them off or make them feel intimidated enough to not go in. I say hello to people on the lifts and shit instead of just hanging out with my crew and only my crew. I respect all skiers, even if they fuck up on a rail and fall in the landing. If someone skis across the landing, you know they don't know what they are doing. It's called being new to something that you don't know the rules of. I haven't had too much experience with people being dumb in the park...most people don't go in with their kids at the mountain I go to.
 
the only people that get flamed are the kids that are absolutely g'd out and cant ski for shit. Only problems i have is the dads of the litte shits that cut you off and make you fall then the dads come up and start making threats and shit how i "cut off" his kid in the middle of a park when i was doing a line.
 
everyone just needs to mellow out. once people realize they are going nowhere in the sport and they aren't the next t-hall they won't be spraying anyone.
 
If he does a daffy and has fun, do a switch ten and have fun, but no need for hate. The goal is the same.

When people are beiing cocky with others it stops the progression of our sport to a certain extent. One of my friend who is pretty good at skiing in general, does lots of trees and bc, says he doesn't want to come over in the park, because he wears a suit that comes from last year and isn't xl. Even if he might be misinterpreting stuff, it's still the overall image we give. Why not be all one love for the sport.

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Damn i dont know where u are from but around me it is the opposite. Everybody is wicked chill. When somebody who is new at park comes in everybody is pumped that they are trying out park and tries to help them out.
 
I hear what ur saying man

Here (White Pass WA)

Its pretty chill

Not too much of that stuff but i have seen it before
 
this happened to me last saturday it was kinda cool, i was trying a 5 with new grab for the first time on this table we just got put up and one of the park crew that is a boarder was like "what you gonna throw dude" and i told him and he just said go for it; i didnt end up landing it for another 2 tries but it was just to see someone who was nice to me when i was trying to learn something and kept eating shit
 
Yeah. I learn so much better and get more stoked when i talk to people and get tips from them. If someone tells me i suck it just gets in my head. Couple weeks ago this guy was 270'ing off a flat box and i asked him how to do it. He told me and showed me a couple times, and it was nice to have some help from a fellow skier. Still cant 270 out but thats not the point.
 
me and a few others recently went out of our local area to ski some park. i wont say where. coming from a smaller bc oriented mountain it was kinna fun to hit some decent park considering that our park sucks. and to my surprise most kids were fucking douchers. didnt see one fucker smiling. trying to be more thug or more sick than the kid next to him. the park etiquitte was trerrible. pretty much got the same fuck you feeling from every person there.
 
absolutely dude. i just started doing park this year so i dont make fun of anyone who isn't that good cuz i know wut its like but if you dont try anything then what are you doing there?
 
i didnt read everyone elses posts, but theres another thread thats called "4bi9 a bunch of nice guys" or something like that. Some guy said he fell and crew members were helping him and making sure he was alright and stuff. I'm hoping this story is true cause if pros are super nice guys just trying to progress and maybe help other progress shit would be ignant. People would follow the best and be nice while wearing theres baggy pants and tall t's (actually, is that even possible?).
 
I agree totally with the thread creator everyone should be chill in the park and help out people and dont rag on people who are not the best.I just hate when people laugh at u when u try something new.Its nice to talk to a fellow skier knowing they will give u some tips and encourage u.
 
Everyone at my mountain is really chill, all the park skiers and legit snowboarders (meaning the ones that do not hate on skiing) are cool with eachother. Whenever me and my buds meet someone we haven't seen there before we usually talk to them and ride with them and just have a good time. We met one older guy (at least 25) hitting a dfd box that we were sessioning, and he was trying to get switch ups on the second kink. We were helping him out, giving him tips and he eventually got it and he was so stoked saying like were the most encouraging group of people he's ever skiied with(tehe). So yeah i think that we are good little skiers and not assholes like some of the people you guys are talking about. Have fun!!!!!
 
this is true for a lot of people...its almost like if you're really good at skiing park maybe help the others out? or make them feel good at least? the terrain park is scary because you have to feel like you look really cool to be in it...
It can be harsh and I hope the people that are really good keep it humble and seem inviting. Positive vibes should be going out to everyone...done be a jackass you know?
 
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