Normal people think we are assholes... (rant)

SirFryanator

SirFryanator

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I was having some pretty intense conversations with people earlier yesterday, after tanner won pipe. The convo got pretty intense (they didn't know a lot about freestyle skiing). Eventually, we got to the point about the bad attitudes of many skiers, and for once I tend to agree with the non-skier. Why are we so judgmental of others?

We see someone who doesn't have baggy as fuck pants and we think "GAPER!" Basically, we're cocky motherfuckers (or at least we come off as that). A bunch of my friends are afraid to go into the park because they will be made fun of...it's happened to me, even.

I fell while trying a little butter 2 weeks ago and a crew came by and sprayed me in the face while I was trying to get my ski. I'm sure that would be funny if it were someone you knew, but just some random person? Not cool, people.

I'm not the best at park, but I can hold my own, and I'm intimidated to go into the park sometimes. I can't even imagine what the beginners feel. The park scene seemed so much more chill a few years ago when I was first starting. When I was 12 I was skiing Whistler on a trip. I could go in with my line darkside directional twins in a regular-fitting suit and try my 360s (and eat shit 90% of the time) without people laughing.

I know that NS is mainly park-oriented and 90% of our members ski mostly rails and jumps. When beginners and/or gapers go into the park, or just ski around and fall, making fun of them doesn't really help. Helping them out definitely would improve our image. Even saying "what's up" while waiting in line to hit a feature or something would be chill.

CLIFF NOTES: Just go out and say hello, and help clean up the yard sales rather than laughing your ass off at them. isn't the way, we should embrace people trying what we love to do.

 
The only kids I judge when they're in the park, are kids who don't even TRY anything. I don't care if you fall 50/50ing a box, or can't 180 a 3 footer, if you're atleast trying, it's fine with me. It's the kids who just bomb through rolling over lips and stuff that piss me off, but there are plenty of rants about that, so I'll stop now.
 
You're right lots of skier are cocky bastards. I usually never intiate conversation while in the park because I've had some, "stupid girl" comments.
 
Im down with beginners, just as long as they aren't the way or something. I just hate when dumb snowboarders sit across the whole drop in to lower jonseys (like a mini park kinda) and i just want to cruise by and get back to the lift it hit upper jonseys (biggest park) but i usually find a small spot the thread the nettle.
 
same here.

i never act bad toward anybody on the park. and i don t like it when people look badly at me cause they are better. i just do my thing, try to learn new tricks, eat shit, chill out with every body. asking advice to the best, giving advice to those i can give.

only thing that pisses me off are people skiing the park as a usual slope, going through landings, takeoff and whatever, even though it is written every where it is a snowpark.

but i never hate on a park.

it s all about having fun.
 
The only kids I've seen get tooled on are the kids who look fucking sick, sit there and talk shit, and then can't throw anything, or don't even try.

If you're out there trying no matter what your skill level, you're cool with me. And it seems that way all around the east coast..
 
yeah ive gotta agree i hate when you go somewhere new and the locals make you feel like you shouldnt be there because theyre better then you, and its rele cool when you can just roll up somewhere and ski with the locals and they arent assholes about you being there

but it does kinda bother me when like a whole family comes through the park and just goes without looking and cuts off anyone whos actually hitting the jump so they can go off the side.. if they really want to hit jumps they should go to the beginner park and wait their turn to hit it properly, i would have no problem with this no matter what theyre wearing or skiing on
 
yeah skiers are getting waaaaay to cocky.

i realised when i read this that i only have one freestyle skier friend and other then him i ride with all boarders because there way more chill and dont fret when someone is leanring something and it so happens that my mountain doesnt have boarders hating on skiers thank god.

but yes the freestyle skiers in general (not all some are chill) need to stop being overall douce bags.

and the key is everyones only out there to have fun, not everyone is out there to be famous. i think thats one of the main things that makes some cocky
 
i agree with you. Everybody iis a beginner at some point and they should be helped not made fun of. I ski at Burke and its not like that at all though. people try to help out kids who are just learning instead of making fun of them.
 
Word

people at my moutain are like that

some kid with tight pants (he was throwing down though) was making fun of my and my brother cause were had antifreeze puffies. I was like what the fuck dude just go ride and have fun.

There's this one kid at my park and his name is like shoe-ning and he is mean to everyone and one time I saw him kill a kid who couldn't switch cork 9 off a 60 foot gap.

Ok that last part was a lie haha, he's a nice guy.
 
it's true it's a pain in the ass. a lot of skiers need to get the fuck over themselves and realize that everybody has to fall before they can stomp something, even the little things. however, while some skiers get caught behind someone with non-baggy pants think "gaper", i get caught behind someone with their underwear in my face and i think "pull your pants up, you're not as cool as you try to be"
 
Agreed, there are a lot of cocky assholes out there who do nothing to better the sport. I have seen a lot of hate and love at the place I ski at. It's because of those cocky assholes who hate that people feel too intimidated to progress and learn new tricks. Not going to lie, I felt pretty intimidated dropping into the superpipe. I have seen people get jeered and laughed at by people on the lift when they fall. I have also been approached by random people who are like "yeh saw u slaying the up rail, pretty sick, wanna shred together?". Either way, ski for yourself, fuck the haters.
 
Well obviously he can't ski outside the park, so it doesn't even matter (jokes!).

But seriously, even a couple people that I ski with have this totally weird attitude toward people that don't conform to the NS stereotype...like if you don't like jumping then you're a tool.
 
eehhhh i dont no man. its just a rite of passage the whole getting made fun of in the park. every one goes through it. skating is the same way. (pretty much any sport to a certain degree when you think of it) but if your a cool person and genuinely stoked on riding stick with the scene and people will look out for you and give you props.
 
i agree big time and half the time the people making fun of you are worse than you they just have the balls to say something like that. the best way to shut kids up is arrive at a park with straight skis, jeans and a flannel and just do every trick you have and that will shut most kids up
 
i dont relaly care about beginners in the park or anything i say watsup sometimes and be nice to everyone but they do get intimidated u can tell and will let people go before them but as long as they respect otehrs and dont cut people off or something than its cool with me. also last weekend at stratton this family was basically standing on the side of the jump watching people go off of it and thatpissed me off so much cuse if someone drifted on a spin to the left or something they woudve fucked them up. also those dads that think there little kids are the shit and are like yo ...just go and do that and they cut u off and then freak out at u and shit.
 
IMO the only person who isn't a cool person is an asshole...which is what you are if you make fun of kids who are trying to have some fun.
 
Yeah, I know a lot of douche bag skiers who think that having fun in the park is making fun of others and just generally being jack asses.
 
people like this suck. I remember when i was like 11 getting called a joey and being so scared to go into the park for a while. It's definatley affected the way i treat other kids trying to learn and ski... just keep it to yourself unless its positive
 
youre intimidated to go in the park? no offense, but you should man up, and not give a fuck what people say.
 
I think some skiers are complete dicks, in park atleast 3/4 of the kids have no respect whatsoever (atleast at my local park). You can sit there in a line, and they just cruise by and cut people off. And on the lift, some people just start yelling random shit off the lift if someone falls in park. I normally go shut up dude, he's fucking skiing leave him alone. But the 1/4 of the people who are laid back, and nice are really great people.
 
I agree. I think that most skiers are really full of themselves, and although it is very bad in the park, and I have seen this happen, I think there are more skiers online who are full of themselves. This happens all over NS in the following ways:

1. Forums - Alright, it bothers me when kids post stuff that has been posted 1000 times and it isn't a big deal to teach them about the search bar, but why do we have to use such vulgar terms with them? Is it because you have never accidentally posted something that has already been posted before? If you go back in the archives of this forum almost everything has been discussed 1000 times, so get over yourself.

2. Forums 2 - All I see on here are kids posting about how gay double flips are, or switch 1440's. Have you ever seen a kangaroo flip double grab - Yes, Have you ever seen a swich 1440 nose mute - Yes. Until you can do anything cooler than Jon Olsson, TJ Schiller, Andreas Hatveit or Charles Gagnier, then you should stop saying that the tricks the pros are doing are gay. The tricks that they are doing are more steezy than even most of your 3's and 7's so there is no reason for you to hate. The only thing gay about those tricks in my opinion is that I cannot do them, and I wish I could. Stop hating because everyone is better than you, get over yourself.

3. Videos - Sure some videos suck, and some videos are awesome,but instead of saying coments like "You are a Pussy" or "Get some Style" or "Learn how to edit" you should probably use more constructive critizism, because I am sure the first time you threw a 270 onto a rail it didn't look super clean either.

4. Pictures - same as above. Use the rating system on pictures and video. Use constructive critizism, don't hate. Help people know what they can do better and not by calling them a "F)(#* homo".

5. I am sure there are way more ways that skiers show how full of themselves they are on this website, but honestly I am tired of writing.
 
hahahahahahaha. i loled. kohl is THE meanest kid everrr! nah, Im fine with beginners who rip the park. as long as they dont get in the way ill treat them like i treat anybody else in my crew. I emphasize the "dont get in the way." especially. thats how it should be.

 
i cant tell if you were calling me an asshole? fuck you if you were. kids starting out in the park will always get made fun of, thats the way it is.
 
the park scene at every mountain I have ever skied is really chill. I never see people hating on others or anything. This year Im at park city for a lot of the time and everyone is super supportive and really chill. You ask someone about the jump or how much speed and I have always gotten good responses. I dunno where you ski but I've never experienced what you are talking about
 
If someone came up to me in the park and talked that'd be cool with me, but it seems odd to strike up a conversation a lot of the time. sometimes its cool though. either way there's no reason to hate. hell, going into the park is good for me cause it's definitely an area I have a lot to improve in so most of the actual skiers in there are better at park than me. people who hate on others just suck all around.

also though, sometimes I feel intimidated by another skier in the park who's better but when they haven't said anything chances are they really don't care what I do or what I'm throwing down and I just feel that way. I never really feel intimidated by boarders though.
 
i have never had these experiences like this at any mountains. my buddies really piss me off though, they are afraid to do ANYTHING in the park because they think people will laugh. when everyone there is really chill. i will ask for advice and get friendly responses and a lot of help. nobody really laughs unless someone does something stupid like catches an edge etc. which if you take offense to that then you are a bitch. overall i just feel i will go in the park and have fun, and if someone says something then fuck them.

although yesterday my buddy and i were skiing no poles because our friend broke his hand and has a cast so we said we would ski no poles with him. anyways we were in the park and some kid said something, but i asked him why he had been sitting there for the last 20 minutes and he went away. only bad experience i've had at my mtn. oh and no poles is a lot of fun for a change, i recommend trying it. haha.
 
ok honestly i might seem like i come off as cocky because honestly skiing is GAY freestyle skiing isn't and thats just my opinion, i just dont see the fun in trying to make sure your posture is right and if you can carve that turn perfectly, yes technically im a pretty good skier but im not gonna go down groomers and wait in a half an hour line up to make a "SICK TURN"
 
stop worrying so much about how good other people are and just worry about yourself, i'm not trying to sound cocky or self centered but i can care less what the kid next to me does off a rail or jump, i only worry about my own skiing
 
word, I always laugh at the no poles debates. do what you want, and in my experience although I would never drop them all together it's a lot of fun to give them to a boarder for a few runs just to switch it up. you feel sort of free and I always wave my hands around and do stupid shit for fun.

another thing I don't get is how come we always have these threads on ns and it's pretty sweet because everyone is really positive but then people go out and there are still assholes around. I guess not everyone has been enlightened by ns haha.
 
I've never been intimidated to go into the park. Now I'm semi-decent at throwing tricks, so I can keep up with people. My friends are intimidated, definitely.

and cousinmark, I think that you shouldn't make fun of anyone, unless like someone else said the person just does something completely retarded, like just falls over. Yeah, it's in good taste when you laugh at something like that since the person knows it's not mean-spirited. I can't believe you WOULD make fun of a kid who's having fun. It would really turn me away from skiing park...which I am actually. I rarely venture in there anymore, I constantly feel judged.
 
If your bitchin about this online and can't imagine what you are like in the park!

Man up and don't give a shit what people think, just practice and prove them wrong!
 
Same here, as long as someone's trying i'm all for it, but if they're just gonna roll around and ruin shit that's when it gets annoying.

Around my mtn it's mostly the snowboards who shit on each other from the lift and whatnot, skiers aren't that common and are way more chill here.
 
I wish we had a park at my home mountain. We build all our own jumps. At other mountains though, I really don't ski the park that much, because of the vibe I get from the locals, with the exception of the mountain I ski when I'm at school. The park scene should not be like the surfing scene, which is locals only, or if you suck, get out. I want my friends to learn how to spin past 360, but landing in hella uneven/variable snow isn't the best way to learn. The park is the best way, but they feel really scared to go in there because the fact is people do make fun of them. What I love about the big mountain scene is that people aren't complete dicks half the time. In fact, most people are really really nice and respect all skiers.

Of course nobody's going to bitch in the park, that's just plain wussy. I can reach a greater number of people on here, and you guys can spread the positive attitude to your own respective mountains.
 
I hate to say it, but skiing is 100% fashion. I used to say 99% but i now believe its 100% It's fashionable for you to act nice, or to be a dick. Sorry, If you don't have enough glam in your steeze, your just not going to fit in. My suggestion, have an air of confidence about you, and whatever you do will be fashioable enough for skiing.

mild sarcasm except the end
 
i try to be like you said and talk to gapers. i remember i used to be nervous in the park too. but i do still alugh quietly with my freinds when a gaper falls. i guess i still have some work to do
 
yah im fine with people learning new stuff and having fun but it really makes me mad when im coming uo to a rail and some kid will come very fast and hit the jump of the rail nearly killing me
 
na man if somethings funny ill chuckle discretely. i never said i rag on beginners. im just saying you should have thicker skin. its kinda of like natural selection, survival of the fittest.
 
Personally, I'm never intimidated to go anywhere, and I like to think positively of people until they give me reason to think otherwise. The other day at our local hill, there were some guys hooting off the lifts trying to get me to fall. Thats gay. Messing with other people IN A MEAN, HURTFUL WAY TO THEM is not cool. At all.
 
As with the general concensus (sp?), I agree. People need to get over their insecurites, not worry so much about what they look like, and be nice. If you strike up a conversation in the park you'll be more likely to have fun and make more friends, even if you can't shred the gnar.
 
It's not that way everywhere you know. Even kids who can't throw down get cheered on unless they snake someone here. Maybe we're liberal hippy douches but we're fair with our flaming, and people will cheer or give someone props after just about anything is thrown.

 
I like to dump on gaper kids and assholes on their phones, but never will i on someone riding twins, or someone who just fell riding a feature or jump.
 
At my hill everyones really nice, unless you are on rental gear. The gapers(mostly fromt eh deep south) usually don't merit much respect. Its usually those people though that try to air of the lips without hitting the box or rail. I always tell them that ski school will clip their ticket if they go off the sides, but im a generally helpful person I have even taught a few gapers how to slide a box.
 
I mean everyone gets made fun of, and it may be a rite of passage, but it certainly doesn't help as much as constructive criticism would be. Or just being less of a douche bag, in a more constructive manner. Maybe laugh at the kid, but pick up his skis and tell him to bend his knees more or get more speed. But don't just laugh and plow snow in his grill.
 
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