Noahs ark found

Find me a Buddhist monk that's slaughtered hundreds of thousands of people in the name of his God and alienated hundreds of thousands more 'sinners' and I'll do just that.

And I think you are trying to think of the words 'degrade' and 'you're.'

I thought Wisdom was like the dopest thing you can have according to Christianity. Or maybe you haven't heard of King Solomon.
 
Thomas Jefferson on religion/Christianity.

"Fix Reason firmly in her seat, and call to her tribunal

every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the

existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more

approve the homage of reason than of blindfolded fear. ... Do

not be frightened from this inquiry by any fear of its

consequences. If it end in a belief that there is no God, you

will find incitements to virtue in the comfort and

pleasantness you feel in its exercise and in the love of

others which it will procure for you" (Jefferson's Works, Vol.

ii., p. 217)."

"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus,

by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin

will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in

the brain of Jupiter" (Works, Vol. iv, p. 365)."

(http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/john_remsburg/six_historic_americans/chapter_2.html)

George Bush Sr. on atheists:

"Sherman: Surely you recognize the equal citizenship and

patriotism of Americans who are atheists?

Bush: No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens,

nor

should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."

(http://www.holysmoke.org/sdhok/aa011.htm)

Find me one quote from the founding fathers stating that America is founded on Christian values please.

You are very proud of your ignorance. Its quite pathetic, and I feel sorry for you.

 
I didnt read shit in this thread, but considering the story of noahs ark and the flood was probably a rendition of an older oral story from the region. hell, gilgamesh has a story just like it, and there is another epic out of the levant that mentions it, too. So while it might not have been, as somebody said in the first 5 posts, a 13000ft increase in sea level, just a catastrophic flood in that area that lived through oral tradition and was adopted by other groups.
 
ohmybosh, gnartron and karmagod:

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Well technically its Armenia. Even in the bible it says noah's ark landed on mt. ararat which was located in Armenia at the time...

but thats just me being picky. haha
 
word up man. as a freshman i actually had to do a project about different religions and their "flood stories." basically, christianity is chock-full of plagiarism, along with most other organized religion.
 
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hey there pete

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hey there pete gibson

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and noah took what 4 or 5 of his family on board and from what i remember from bible school there was only one woman on the whole god damn boat.... shit i guess we're all a bunch of incest baby's then.

BOOM
 
Well if you are going to take it literally, the incest thing would still be true seeing as Adam and Eve's kids had to fuck each other.
 
"THE remains of Noah's Ark have been discovered 13,000ft up a Turkish mountain, it has been claimed."

Fuck, you cant even read the title?
 
did you not read what I said with any kind of comprehension? What I said did not defend the bible in any way, it was more of a retort of sorts to all the dipshits who tout "omg its all make believe" or something. All my premise was that the story probably had some rudimentary ties to older tales of oral tradition, many of which are rooted in some kind of reality/historical event. The actual story in genesis... well I can't believe any of it.
 
To put your faith in what humans have observed is foolish because Scientific observations change every day. I understand you dont rule out the possibility of a Creator, but if Christianity isnt true then what is the meaning of life? Living life and then dying and ceasing to exist is a pretty scary way to live. And is truth relative to whatever you want to make out for yourself? All of these questions are difficult to answer without religion which is why I find Atheism a bigger leap of faith than believing there is a Supreme Being up above
 
Translation: Im ignorant and scared of dying so i like to pretend there is a man in the sky who i get to chill with when im dead.
 
To me living life here on Earth as nothing more than a "practice run" is far more scary. It makes everything meaningless then.
 
yeah , a boat found way up on a mountain, the exact mountain the bible says it was on, you fucking twat
 
I'm not scared of death because I know when I die that I'm going to Heaven to meet Jesus....Let me ask you this, what do you have to lose by believing that Jesus died on the cross? Based on your post I would assume that you believe that you cease to exist when you die. In that case let's say you were wrong and Christianity is true, then you get to go to Heaven. Basically what im trying to say is that if you believe Christianity is true you get to go to Heaven, if its not true then nothing happens when you die and its no different than what you believe now....So I dont see a real reason not to believe
 
im not very religious, but if you believe in a religion just so that by chance you are right you get to go to heaven, that is totally the wrong reason and is incredibly selfish if you think about it
 
10% of my lifetime income and thousands of hours of my time.

If God were real he'd want you to enjoy your time on Earth. Not spending it in a church talking about how great he is.
 
Im a Christian and im not trying to hate, but you dont automatically get into heaven if believe in Jesus Christ. It's called judgment day. He decides, depending on how you lived your life, if you make it into heaven or not. Just wanted to point that out.
 
*I'm not scared of death because I read a book that said when I die I'm going to Heaven to meet Jesus....

fixed.

Why don't you believe in Zeus or Thor? I'm pretty sure they'd be pissed if you don't believe in them.
 
I'd like to correct this if I may

Ephesians 2:8-9

For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9not by works, so that no one can boast.

You dont get into heaven by what you have done on earth because everyone sins, It is God who does the saving, not how many good works we have performed for others on earth
 
According to St. Augustine in "The Confessions," he claims that there is nothing that humans can to to make it to heaven; either we have the grace of God or we don't. He also says that the number of ppl that receive grace is probably very small.
Good thing I'm not a Christian.
 
Thats if you take what a Bishop perceives as fact....Anyone can write a book on their own opinions but that doesnt make what they wrote true
 
You can believe what you want but the Bible was written over 1500 years by over 40 different authors all conveying One consistent message, not only that the Bible contains amazingly precise historical events and aligns with outside sources....No other book has been so heavily picked apart and dissected yet has held solid to every attack....God gives us the choice to believe what we want but I will ask you this one last question, If a Divine Creator didn't make us in his image then how did we get here today?, who or what is responsible for everything we call the universe around us?
 
Haha I love this argument. I could make you look stupid by posting some ridiculously long diatribe with quotes and whatnot...

Instead I'll just leave with this. Wanna know another historically accurate book? It's called The Odyssey written by a guy named Homer.
 
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