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DominatorJacques

DominatorJacques

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This is everything one needs to know about the new fluoro free paste waxes from Dominator.

It's long, but if you want to know, don't skip! Watch it all!

 
14500142:CoolChillGuy420 said:
Bumping for a legend. Legend bump going on here.
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Ha ha! The video is an hour long! One needs to watch it all!

No way you could have watched it all now, but I will still love you anyway!
 
14500148:DominatorJacques said:
Ha ha! The video is an hour long! One needs to watch it all!

No way you could have watched it all now, but I will still love you anyway!
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can I just ship my skis to you
 
14500157:aCHILLes said:
can I just ship my skis to you
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Ha ha! Just have the paste shipped to you! It's made in the USA by a Greek PhD chemist! The guy is a genius! His name is Thanos!

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Ships out of Vermont worldwide!
 
Thanos is the man. Dominator has some awesome educational material and Thanos is happy to help teach what wax to use and how to apply it. Just ordered some wax to try out, can't wait!
 
14500282:IsaacNW82 said:
Thanos is the man. Dominator has some awesome educational material and Thanos is happy to help teach what wax to use and how to apply it. Just ordered some wax to try out, can't wait!
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Truth!
 
I guess I should have said, I don't sell wax, I just review it and try to help others to learn about it.

Nobody pays me one thin dime!
 
14500367:DominatorJacques said:
I guess I should have said, I don't sell wax, I just review it and try to help others to learn about it.

Nobody pays me one thin dime!
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To be clear, Dominator Wax and Dominator Jacques are unrelated haha, at least as far as I know
 
14500370:IsaacNW82 said:
To be clear, Dominator Wax and Dominator Jacques are unrelated haha, at least as far as I know
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I used to have a large decal from them on my ride. It was the people that gave me the nickname "Dominator", so I went with it.

Many folks at Bachelor call me Dom, or Dominator all the time.

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After more work with this paste, I found it's easy to over apply. Just need the pad loaded a little bit, and keep spreading, and pressing a bit and the whole ski is covered with even less than I talked about. No so important with the FFC at 0.27 per gram, but more important with the Elite at 1.20 per gram.
 
Still have not ironed or scraped for 24 days now.

The performance continues to be insanely good!

Been sharing the FFC with friends, and they are being blow away. I'm happy.
 
14503015:DominatorJacques said:
Still have not ironed or scraped for 24 days now.

The performance continues to be insanely good!

Been sharing the FFC with friends, and they are being blow away. I'm happy.
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probably changing over to this paste wax because of this thread
 
14503015:DominatorJacques said:
Still have not ironed or scraped for 24 days now.

The performance continues to be insanely good!

Been sharing the FFC with friends, and they are being blow away. I'm happy.
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so just to be clear, you use this paste the way someone would typically use something like this? but it's performing so well that you haven't bothered hot waxing in 24 days?

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14503184:SofaKingSick said:
so just to be clear, you use this paste the way someone would typically use something like this? but it's performing so well that you haven't bothered hot waxing in 24 days?

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No, not liquid. Liquid waxes are mostly solvent, so wax can spray out of a pressurized can.

You get very few applications from a liquid product.

With the paste, it's almost all wax.

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no i know they're different, but you use it the same way you'd use those other on-hill things like spray or rub-on, right? like ideally your skis should be waxed but this helps a little whether you waxed or not?
 
14503247:SofaKingSick said:
no i know they're different, but you use it the same way you'd use those other on-hill things like spray or rub-on, right? like ideally your skis should be waxed but this helps a little whether you waxed or not?
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what I got from the video was you'll want to clean and prep the skis like you would for a nice hot wax but then you apply paste let it set for a little then buff it in. I dont think this is product you'll slap on mid day with cold/wet dirty skis in the parking lot
 
14503252:drifts said:
what I got from the video was you'll want to clean and prep the skis like you would for a nice hot wax but then you apply paste let it set for a little then buff it in. I dont think this is product you'll slap on mid day with cold/wet dirty skis in the parking lot
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thanks! and thanks to jacques, i'm still interested. gotta go fast

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14503247:SofaKingSick said:
no i know they're different, but you use it the same way you'd use those other on-hill things like spray or rub-on, right? like ideally your skis should be waxed but this helps a little whether you waxed or not?
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Yes, well prepped base, then you can use the paste for a long time. I've gone 24 days now, and bases look fantastic, and haul the mail!
 
14503252:drifts said:
what I got from the video was you'll want to clean and prep the skis like you would for a nice hot wax but then you apply paste let it set for a little then buff it in. I dont think this is product you'll slap on mid day with cold/wet dirty skis in the parking lot
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If it's not snowing, then if you have a brush, and something to buff with, all you need is 30 minutes to let the wax set-up.

All in all, easy in 40 minutes.
 
14503259:SofaKingSick said:
fantastic. prob gonna get some soon. thank you for the heads up!
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FFC is cheap and fast. For maximum blast, try some Elite. Either the NS2P (new snow) or the OS2P (old snow) paste waxes will still run well even if the snow temps are out of range a bit.

If you test some out, let us know how it goes!
 
Update: FFC base prep and glide hot wax and floater paste arrived this morning. No time to hot iron, applied floater paste extremely haphazardly in the parking lot while putting on my boots.

This stuff is legit. Feels like the best wax I've ever used (FWIW the best I've used prior is swix hot wax), and I even half-assed it like crazy. Can't wait to see how a proper base prep/hot wax/scrape and brush performs, given how well a paste applied in 20F with no scrape or brush on a completely destroyed base does
 
14503906:IsaacNW82 said:
Update: FFC base prep and glide hot wax and floater paste arrived this morning. No time to hot iron, applied floater paste extremely haphazardly in the parking lot while putting on my boots.

This stuff is legit. Feels like the best wax I've ever used (FWIW the best I've used prior is swix hot wax), and I even half-assed it like crazy. Can't wait to see how a proper base prep/hot wax/scrape and brush performs, given how well a paste applied in 20F with no scrape or brush on a completely destroyed base does
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That's good news. I will assume the Floater is a hard wax with an antistatic, as all the paste have that added.

I just set up a pair with the FFC 2c (19F and colder) should be very cold tomorrow when I try it.

If you got the FFC 2c hot wax, you will need an iron close to 240F. It's very hard! Then scrape just after finishing. Let cool a bit longer before brushing.

Much thanks for the feedback, and let us know how it continues to go.
 
Still yet to use the iron this season. Keep in mind, all my bases have been preped with Dominator Base Renew waxes.

I'm still stoked as all get out! The glide is insane. Speed to do the deed!

If any of you try these, let us know how it goes for you.

I know it doesn't work as well if you just put it on a base burned ski. Bases need to be in good shape, and preped for maximum performance.

For the win!

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14503252:drifts said:
what I got from the video was you'll want to clean and prep the skis like you would for a nice hot wax but then you apply paste let it set for a little then buff it in. I dont think this is product you'll slap on mid day with cold/wet dirty skis in the parking lot
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On that note, I tried a 0 F application, after 35 minutes, it never dried, so I believe one needs either a spring day, or an indoor room temp. for it to work correctly. Paste needs to fully dry.

[video]https://youtu.be/x_EGoU9qUUQ[/video]
 
14513110:DominatorJacques said:
On that note, I tried a 0 F application, after 35 minutes, it never dried, so I believe one needs either a spring day, or an indoor room temp. for it to work correctly. Paste needs to fully dry.

[video]https://youtu.be/x_EGoU9qUUQ[/video]
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What’s their all temp version?
 
14513194:DominatorJacques said:
They have Floater paste that they claim is for backcountry (ungroomed snows) for all conditions. It's currently sold out.

Other than that, all the "all temps" are hot waxes.
https://dominatorwax.com/collections/all/all-temperature
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ive held off on these because I cant decide what temp range, I'm guessing as someone who waxes their skis maybe a couple times a season any temp range is going to be better than what I usually ski on
 
14513220:drifts said:
ive held off on these because I cant decide what temp range, I'm guessing as someone who waxes their skis maybe a couple times a season any temp range is going to be better than what I usually ski on
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The best deal is 400 gram bar of Graphite Zoom. The Race Zooms are awesome, but expensive.

With the Race Zooms, one starts with a well waxed and brushed out base, then either rub on cold, or touch the iron and rub on base. This way you use the minimal amount of wax. Let me search my videos to find you an example.....................................................okay, watch this one.

 
14513194:DominatorJacques said:
They have Floater paste that they claim is for backcountry (ungroomed snows) for all conditions. It's currently sold out.

Other than that, all the "all temps" are hot waxes.
https://dominatorwax.com/collections/all/all-temperature
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What’s been the longest you’ve skied or I guess the most comfortable length of time you’d go between applications?

I have a Tahoe trip coming up but I fly from south Florida. So weight is a premium and as such I usually never bring brushes etc to wax my skis on trips.

ill be skiing a total of about 25 hours actual snow time. Would you think a single coating would last my entire trip?
 
14513306:PartyBullshiit said:
What’s been the longest you’ve skied or I guess the most comfortable length of time you’d go between applications?

I have a Tahoe trip coming up but I fly from south Florida. So weight is a premium and as such I usually never bring brushes etc to wax my skis on trips.

ill be skiing a total of about 25 hours actual snow time. Would you think a single coating would last my entire trip?
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That would be pushing it for sure. All the paste are air travel approved, so just a brush to go, and you will be better off.

There's no mess, so in a motel room, or wherever, you can do it.

Also, you could just rub on wax and buff out anytime with the Zoom waxes, for example. Rub and buffs don't last that long, but can work much, much better than nothing, and that can be done even in the cold. Good luck.
 
14513323:DominatorJacques said:
That would be pushing it for sure. All the paste are air travel approved, so just a brush to go, and you will be better off.

There's no mess, so in a motel room, or wherever, you can do it.

Also, you could just rub on wax and buff out anytime with the Zoom waxes, for example. Rub and buffs don't last that long, but can work much, much better than nothing, and that can be done even in the cold. Good luck.
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If I was going to use a single brush with the paste on the trip would you recommend a nylon or brass?
 
14513358:DominatorJacques said:
Brass before, and after application, once good and dry for sure!
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Thanks for the help. I’m going to give it a shot. I had using the iron and scraping.

The bases just need to be prepped period first correct? I already have prep wax on hand so I don’t need to use the ffc 1 prep first right?

I can use my wax then just apple the ffc ns 2?
 
14513361:PartyBullshiit said:
Thanks for the help. I’m going to give it a shot. I had using the iron and scraping.

The bases just need to be prepped period first correct? I already have prep wax on hand so I don’t need to use the ffc 1 prep first right?

I can use my wax then just apple the ffc ns 2?
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Sure, base prep hot wax is best anyway, scrape and brush really good, then go for the P2 paste of your choice.

Then come back here and let us know how it goes! Happy trails.
 
The wax call for powder was for FFC P2c (the hardest paste), still he said he was happy.

Hi Jacques.

I used the FP2 on my DPS skis Wed & Thurs. It worked very well in spite of the cold weather. All I did was steel brush my skis. Apply FP2. Fibertex several hours later and nylon finish brush. Did not rewax between Wed and Thurs.

John

 
Because the Elite, and FFC paste have been so awesome, I'm going full steam with a Legacy paste kit!

I'll be getting them soon. Read the print if you can! (click the photo, and read easy)

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14515938:DominatorJacques said:
Because the Elite, and FFC paste have been so awesome, I'm going full steam with a Legacy paste kit!

I'll be getting them soon. Read the print if you can! (click the photo, and read easy)

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**This post was edited on Mar 4th 2023 at 2:40:06pm
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I did one day on the F1p, and it was good and fast with excellent glide, but can't really say it was faster than the Elite fluoro free right now.
 
Okay, I tried an application at 21F. It did not cure after about 40 minutes. I wiped off with a paper towel, then brushed after another 10 minutes or so. Skis ran fine.

In conclusion, I would say at below freezing temperatures, it's not going to set-up.

I didn't figure it would, but still wanted to try, so I would know for sure.

I continue to be extremely impressed with the performance of both the FFC, and Elite paste. Serious mail has been hauled.

Still have not used an iron this season. Been using only three of my over 25 pairs for this testing for over 45 days now.

I'd have more days, but the weather has been real crappy at Bachelor this season!
 
14521543:DominatorJacques said:
Okay, I tried an application at 21F. It did not cure after about 40 minutes. I wiped off with a paper towel, then brushed after another 10 minutes or so. Skis ran fine.

In conclusion, I would say at below freezing temperatures, it's not going to set-up.

I didn't figure it would, but still wanted to try, so I would know for sure.

I continue to be extremely impressed with the performance of both the FFC, and Elite paste. Serious mail has been hauled.

Still have not used an iron this season. Been using only three of my over 25 pairs for this testing for over 45 days now.

I'd have more days, but the weather has been real crappy at Bachelor this season!
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is the Elite paste for new snow really that much better than the FFC paste in new snow? (im thinking pow day)
 
14608210:scratchskier321 said:
is the Elite paste for new snow really that much better than the FFC paste in new snow? (im thinking pow day)
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For fresh fallen snow, use the FFC P2 C. Harder wax is always better for powder!
 
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