none of those are straight up single impact damadge. those are just hardcore neglect. any ski will get that bad if you totally ignore um. i beat the piss outa a pair of TMs first year they were out, and they didnt even so much as crack an edge. maybe i gotta fluke pair, but they really arnt that bad. question is, are those TMs, or a new ski? they look like tms from the dimensions.