Newer Skier looking for gear

doctordee

doctordee

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Hi, my name is Connor and I ski in New York and Vermont with my home mountain being Holiday Valley. I have been skiing for 2 years now going all mountain. But, what I'm looking for in this future pair of skis is a ski that performs in park and east coast slush and I like going fast and I'm learning to run the park and hit jumps! (this is what you want out of a ski. I am 24 5'11, 180 pounds and my budget no more than $700. I've got boots already and I bought Atomic Maverick 86c last year but fell in love with park so I might sell them for twin tips. Any recommendations welcome! I know I am starting late but I also can tell that this is a super amazing community! stoked to meet you all
 
Sorry if this is a silly question, will I need to buy different boots? Or different bindings to go with them?

14551311:Vish-shoe said:
Vishnu Wets are 500$ and will definitely get you women
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Hey man, glad you’re getting into park skiing. Yes it is a great community with a lot of passionate people, welcome!

I would recommend a ski like the Armada ARV 86, the K2 Sight, or the Faction Prodigy 1 as these are all kind of “do it all” park skis for the east coast, although you will run into some problems on pow days as these skis don’t float very much in anything over like 6-8 inches of fresh (these days are few and far between.)

They’re all similar construction and great skis for learning park as you can beat the shit outta them. For length I see your current skis are at 169 length which is pretty short for a guy your size. I would recommend getting a 177 length and just adapting to the extra length as you learn park, it will give you more stability at higher speeds, landing jumps, skiing steeps, etc. General rule of thumb is park skis should at least be your height or taller.

And you should be able to have a shop remount your current bindings onto your new skis once you get them without issue.
 
14551391:BIIIGZ said:
Hey man, glad you’re getting into park skiing. Yes it is a great community with a lot of passionate people, welcome!

I would recommend a ski like the Armada ARV 86, the K2 Sight, or the Faction Prodigy 1 as these are all kind of “do it all” park skis for the east coast, although you will run into some problems on pow days as these skis don’t float very much in anything over like 6-8 inches of fresh (these days are few and far between.)

They’re all similar construction and great skis for learning park as you can beat the shit outta them. For length I see your current skis are at 169 length which is pretty short for a guy your size. I would recommend getting a 177 length and just adapting to the extra length as you learn park, it will give you more stability at higher speeds, landing jumps, skiing steeps, etc. General rule of thumb is park skis should at least be your height or taller.

And you should be able to have a shop remount your current bindings onto your new skis once you get them without issue.
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Solid deal for the prodigy 1 with strive 11 bindings. Only 184 though.
https://www.sierra.com/faction-skis...-with-strive-11-gw-bindings-for-men-and-women~p~2wacx/?filterString=s~faction%2F&merch=prod-rec-prod-prod2WACX
 
14551334:doctordee said:
Sorry if this is a silly question, will I need to buy different boots? Or different bindings to go with them?
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You’ll be all good no worries. You can swap the bindings to any new ski you get and keep your boots as well.
 
Don’t get a wet, too soft for your style. You’d like them in the park, but would probably think they’re kinda slow on the frontside of the hill. So like I do for all my fellow NY skiers, I recommend the Vishnu Key. Perfect amount of playful flex, but stiff and cambered enough to really fuck up some groomers ??????
 
14551391:BIIIGZ said:
Hey man, glad you’re getting into park skiing. Yes it is a great community with a lot of passionate people, welcome!

I would recommend a ski like the Armada ARV 86, the K2 Sight, or the Faction Prodigy 1 as these are all kind of “do it all” park skis for the east coast, although you will run into some problems on pow days as these skis don’t float very much in anything over like 6-8 inches of fresh (these days are few and far between.)

They’re all similar construction and great skis for learning park as you can beat the shit outta them. For length I see your current skis are at 169 length which is pretty short for a guy your size. I would recommend getting a 177 length and just adapting to the extra length as you learn park, it will give you more stability at higher speeds, landing jumps, skiing steeps, etc. General rule of thumb is park skis should at least be your height or taller.

And you should be able to have a shop remount your current bindings onto your new skis once you get them without issue.
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Haha too true, "pow days" for western NY are still pretty heavy. Ill keep the hight rules in mind while shopping around! thanks for the info o7
 
14551417:KilaTsunami said:
Don’t get a wet, too soft for your style. You’d like them in the park, but would probably think they’re kinda slow on the frontside of the hill. So like I do for all my fellow NY skiers, I recommend the Vishnu Key. Perfect amount of playful flex, but stiff and cambered enough to really fuck up some groomers ??????
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Would you mind explaining how "softer" = slower? I'm still pretty uneducated when it comes to terms like camber and how much flex I should have. Thanks!
 
14551490:doctordee said:
Would you mind explaining how "softer" = slower? I'm still pretty uneducated when it comes to terms like camber and how much flex I should have. Thanks!
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Sure! The crazy amount of rocker means less ski on the ground, and the softness of the ski means they start bouncing like a ho on coke at any speed over 50.
 
14551490:doctordee said:
Would you mind explaining how "softer" = slower? I'm still pretty uneducated when it comes to terms like camber and how much flex I should have. Thanks!
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Softer skis are usually more rockered. More rocker = less of the ski that is touching the snow. Think about it like the bottom of a rocking chair.

these kinds of skis can be more slow because

1. They don’t have as much contact with the snow. Longer contact zone (such as a cambered ski) = more speed.

2. you can’t make turns as fast on them, thus forcing you go slower. Typically the more camber, the better it will be at making turns.

3. a softer flex will take more impacts while running down the slope. Whereas a stiffer counterpart like a more cambered ski powers through the snow and doesn’t allow minor little bumps and such to decrease your momentum. Think of it like punching a super small punching bag (very easy to move out of place) versus a super big punching bag (holds its place a little more).
 
Ahhh I think I'm starting to understand. More rocker = less speed. And the more contact a ski has with the snow, the faster it will go and the better it will turn. (Correct me if I'm wrong haha)

I just got back from my local shop where he helped me look at the park skis some of you have recommended. I think I'm going to rent for this season then next year go with the Faction Prodigy 1. Seems to have everything I want in it.

I keep hearing rule of thumb is for skis to be about as tall as you, but last year I saw a lot of people with relatively short skis. Not blades short but definitely not matching their height. Is it preference?

14551527:weastcoat said:
Softer skis are usually more rockered. More rocker = less of the ski that is touching the snow. Think about it like the bottom of a rocking chair.

these kinds of skis can be more slow because

1. They don’t have as much contact with the snow. Longer contact zone (such as a cambered ski) = more speed.

2. you can’t make turns as fast on them, thus forcing you go slower. Typically the more camber, the better it will be at making turns.

3. a softer flex will take more impacts while running down the slope. Whereas a stiffer counterpart like a more cambered ski powers through the snow and doesn’t allow minor little bumps and such to decrease your momentum. Think of it like punching a super small punching bag (very easy to move out of place) versus a super big punching bag (holds its place a little more).
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14551537:doctordee said:
Ahhh I think I'm starting to understand. More rocker = less speed. And the more contact a ski has with the snow, the faster it will go and the better it will turn. (Correct me if I'm wrong haha)

I just got back from my local shop where he helped me look at the park skis some of you have recommended. I think I'm going to rent for this season then next year go with the Faction Prodigy 1. Seems to have everything I want in it.

I keep hearing rule of thumb is for skis to be about as tall as you, but last year I saw a lot of people with relatively short skis. Not blades short but definitely not matching their height. Is it preference?
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Longer skis usually ride better. Yeah sure shorter ones may be “easier” to spin, but the confidence you gain from a ski that fits you properly (aka your height at least) is unmatched. Better stability with longer skis, better confidence, better riding. May be a little easier to learn with shorter planks but longer/proper sized skis definitely have more benefits in the long run.

plus short skis are frowned upon. Not sure if you care about that too much but it’s definitely something to note.
 
14551395:PartyBullshiit said:
Solid deal for the prodigy 1 with strive 11 bindings. Only 184 though.
https://www.sierra.com/faction-skis...-with-strive-11-gw-bindings-for-men-and-women~p~2wacx/?filterString=s~faction%2F&merch=prod-rec-prod-prod2WACX
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14551537:doctordee said:
Ahhh I think I'm starting to understand. More rocker = less speed. And the more contact a ski has with the snow, the faster it will go and the better it will turn. (Correct me if I'm wrong haha)

I just got back from my local shop where he helped me look at the park skis some of you have recommended. I think I'm going to rent for this season then next year go with the Faction Prodigy 1. Seems to have everything I want in it.

I keep hearing rule of thumb is for skis to be about as tall as you, but last year I saw a lot of people with relatively short skis. Not blades short but definitely not matching their height. Is it preference?
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If you’re going to go prodigy 1 don’t sleep on the deal I posted. You’re not going to get a better price on new prodigy 1’s let alone with new bindings. So you won’t need to worry about swapping bindings etc
 
My local ski shop owner says the description is wrong for those skis... apparently it should also be a different color. In accurate site? Or owner?

14551596:PartyBullshiit said:
If you’re going to go prodigy 1 don’t sleep on the deal I posted. You’re not going to get a better price on new prodigy 1’s let alone with new bindings. So you won’t need to worry about swapping bindings etc
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14551707:doctordee said:
My local ski shop owner says the description is wrong for those skis... apparently it should also be a different color. In accurate site? Or owner?
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They mistakenly put 1X in the listing. It should be just prodigy 1.

The skis are the correct unisex version in black shown in the picture.

The 1x is the women’s color scheme. Which were purple. The build is the exact same as the men’s. the 1x does not come in a 184 length as they came in women’s sizes.

the 184 listed only came in the black color scheme pictured which means you’ll be getting the correct black skis pictured.

so the owner was right in the listing was worded wrong. But the skis are correct.

order up you’ll be good
 
Ah I understand. I think I'm going to rent park skis this year... then next year I hope to find some used Prodigy 1 :) thank you tho ??

14551735:PartyBullshiit said:
They mistakenly put 1X in the listing. It should be just prodigy 1.

The skis are the correct unisex version in black shown in the picture.

The 1x is the women’s color scheme. Which were purple. The build is the exact same as the men’s. the 1x does not come in a 184 length as they came in women’s sizes.

the 184 listed only came in the black color scheme pictured which means you’ll be getting the correct black skis pictured.

so the owner was right in the listing was worded wrong. But the skis are correct.

order up you’ll be good
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14551738:doctordee said:
Ah I understand. I think I'm going to rent park skis this year... then next year I hope to find some used Prodigy 1 :) thank you tho ??
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You could also grab that set. Sell the bindings and have your current bindings swapped to the prodigy.

that way your getting a killer deal on new prodigies rather than spending near the same used.

even if you sell them for like $100 to make a quick sale. You’ve ended up paying $199 for the ski. That’s a crack head price for a new prodigy 1.
 
14551741:PartyBullshiit said:
You could also grab that set. Sell the bindings and have your current bindings swapped to the prodigy.

that way your getting a killer deal on new prodigies rather than spending near the same used.

even if you sell them for like $100 to make a quick sale. You’ve ended up paying $199 for the ski. That’s a crack head price for a new prodigy 1.
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My guy is really trying to make that sale
 
Do you use Instagram? If so I’d recommend following snow.share if your willing to buy used skis. I see a ton of prodigy’s on there for good prices.

also if you rent park skis make sure your local shop is cool and doesn’t try to charge you retail for damage caused by rails.
 
14551925:mikem said:
Do you use Instagram? If so I’d recommend following snow.share if your willing to buy used skis. I see a ton of prodigy’s on there for good prices.

also if you rent park skis make sure your local shop is cool and doesn’t try to charge you retail for damage caused by rails.
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I do use Instagram... I was going to make another account posting only Ski related stuff though. I'll give them a follow, thanks for the bump!
 
14551967:doctordee said:
I do use Instagram... I was going to make another account posting only Ski related stuff though. I'll give them a follow, thanks for the bump!
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Snowshare is definitely your best friend when it comes to buying used ski gear, it’s homies hooking up homies for the most part all of usually dope shit.
 
14551996:dwt802 said:
Snowshare is definitely your best friend when it comes to buying used ski gear, it’s homies hooking up homies for the most part all of usually dope shit.
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Will do. thanks bro
 
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