You want to ticky-tack with words and definitions that's cool. No wonder you have so many posts man, it takes like 3 to explain a simple point. I've seen a few vids put on the gab forum from kids I've never heard out west, and as far as I know I've never seen them in major movies, and they are not sponsored by big industry players. Not to say those guys are famous among all people, but they are famous among skiers. The vids are shot and edited without major sponsors or budgets, just a rider and some friends throwing together a vid. They are not clips from MSP/TGR/PBP etc.. that we've all seen. These vids are perfectly relevant to the forum, as an example of the local progression going on in the sport. WOW, I feel sorry for your Mom and anyone who knows you. Don't piss your pants while you are reading this and keep the cork on your fork.