New MOMENT Webisode Ep. 3 "CO, SIA, BC, and Reno urban)
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harlem_balla
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that kid got fucking worked in the end
panojibber
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Kind of unfortunate when you consider that these webisodes are a marketing ploy by a nearly-dead company. Moment almost went under last year, they need the publicity bad, and this videoblog is of questionable quality for that.
powderhound100
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Really? I was not aware of that. I went to a demo day that had at Squaw and demo'd most of their skis. They make really sick skis. Definitely some of the best skis out there.
jex
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HAHHA. No need for baseless verbal diarrhea.
K.C. and Scotty had a lot to do with developing a webisode, in no means was this a SOS financial move by Moment. K.C. and Scotty film their travels as skiers, it's as simple as that. It's an on-going season documentary, and just like anyones season, it has it's ups and downs. They don't film all the stuff they do and claim to be pros, but they do travel around a lot and ski a wide variety of things, which I think is what makes it a cool webisode. Anywho, to each his own.
As for that financial garbage about moment, you're gonna have to sell those lies somewhere else. Your statement is about on par with me telling everyone you contracted super herpe-siphla-gonna-AIDS last year, but never fear, you self-cured and you're ok now. Feel free to hate on the quality of skiing or video, but leave bogus remarks of a sponsor company out.
K.C. and Scotty had a lot to do with developing a webisode, in no means was this a SOS financial move by Moment. K.C. and Scotty film their travels as skiers, it's as simple as that. It's an on-going season documentary, and just like anyones season, it has it's ups and downs. They don't film all the stuff they do and claim to be pros, but they do travel around a lot and ski a wide variety of things, which I think is what makes it a cool webisode. Anywho, to each his own.
As for that financial garbage about moment, you're gonna have to sell those lies somewhere else. Your statement is about on par with me telling everyone you contracted super herpe-siphla-gonna-AIDS last year, but never fear, you self-cured and you're ok now. Feel free to hate on the quality of skiing or video, but leave bogus remarks of a sponsor company out.
powderhound100
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I like watching the webisode's so keep them coming.
fuckyocouch
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callin it: you sir are completely full of shit. Moment most definitely is
not "Nearly-dead," the company completely sold out of their skis mid
season last year and is dropping an outerwear line that is going to give
the industry big guns a run for their money in 2010....
not "Nearly-dead," the company completely sold out of their skis mid
season last year and is dropping an outerwear line that is going to give
the industry big guns a run for their money in 2010....
here is the vimeo link to the first two, do you have to be a member of vimeo in order to get the embed code?
http://vimeo.com/8960990
http://vimeo.com/8960990
KapitolPhoto
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Wrong.
jex
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In your subjective and biased opinion, perhaps. Ostensibly, I was simply clarifying and evident confusion.
I'm not sure what qualifies you to judge content as "whack", what you personally skied in a "whack" manner and thus can relate. Or, do you have a categorical weighted computation?
When a reasonable and well mannered person watches something they don't like, like a show on tv, they turn the channel or turn it off. Here, you elected to actually go out of your way to respond in negative, without justification. So maybe it's really you, on a personal vendetta, that is the crybaby.
I'm not sure what qualifies you to judge content as "whack", what you personally skied in a "whack" manner and thus can relate. Or, do you have a categorical weighted computation?
When a reasonable and well mannered person watches something they don't like, like a show on tv, they turn the channel or turn it off. Here, you elected to actually go out of your way to respond in negative, without justification. So maybe it's really you, on a personal vendetta, that is the crybaby.
The_Oakley_Kid
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just got knocked out for a minute and a severe concussion
VT_scratch
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i heard jex is a cool kid
KapitolPhoto
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Seems this thread is going the way of the typical NS thread...arguing over spelling and diction...
*sigh*
Was it a JOSS edit? No.
Did it show skiing? Yes.
Were the people in it usually stoked on skiing? Yes.
Did I enjoy it? Yes*.
Did everyone? No.
Is that ok? Absolutely.
I doubt the financial success of Moment hinges on Scotty Dubs editorial expertise. It's another webisode for people to enjoy (or not). Personally, I'd rather have more people doing this than not...
*Let it be known that I could be considered biased because I just returned from shooting with KC & Dubs (and I'm in the aforementioned webisode)
*sigh*
Was it a JOSS edit? No.
Did it show skiing? Yes.
Were the people in it usually stoked on skiing? Yes.
Did I enjoy it? Yes*.
Did everyone? No.
Is that ok? Absolutely.
I doubt the financial success of Moment hinges on Scotty Dubs editorial expertise. It's another webisode for people to enjoy (or not). Personally, I'd rather have more people doing this than not...
*Let it be known that I could be considered biased because I just returned from shooting with KC & Dubs (and I'm in the aforementioned webisode)
Bangs.
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Anyone who wants to sit here and talk shit about Jex or MOMENT should stop bitching and find a diffrent thread. Anyone here who wants to say " His stye is whack" 1. crazy smooth style 2. stomps tricks 3. hes a law student so finding any time to progress/ski is truly amazing. My brother is a law student and he is busy non stop with work. This dude is going places.
Keep it up guys love the webisodes and love my jibs cant wait to ride rockers on hood in a few months.
Keep it up guys love the webisodes and love my jibs cant wait to ride rockers on hood in a few months.
DutchhGutss
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I personally liked the video! It shows people having fun shredding.. Keep it up Moment! I like Moment skis there redic fun!
Tross
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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say as long as these guys are meeting the goals they set, then good on em.' That's important anywhere in life.
Furthermore, they're doing it. Whether you like or don't like their skiing, filming, editing or lifestyle is most likely irrelevant. They are skiing at a professional level - which very few can successfully do. They know and actually DO what it takes to be successful, rather than doing what they want and being upset with the outcome. I personally think that is quite admirable as well.
Please don't just call it WHACK Jordan. Please explain the degree of whackness. You know - like compared to something else to make it relative. You're in college right?
As for your shitty attitude - I think it's whack. I have for a long time.
You certainly have a lot to express on internet forums. You're about as positive, informative and helpful to anyone, including yourself, as an average underachiever with a big mouth. I'm going to venture even further out on a limb and speculate I'm not the first person who shares this view - nor the first who has shared it with you.
Did you get to that point in class where they discuss relevance? You know - that part where you remove words and information that don't add anything to the story? Your words are generally irrelevant. Please bring something to the discussion or leave it. Otherwise you're just another person who feels they need to be heard to matter.
And yeah - take that personal.
Furthermore, they're doing it. Whether you like or don't like their skiing, filming, editing or lifestyle is most likely irrelevant. They are skiing at a professional level - which very few can successfully do. They know and actually DO what it takes to be successful, rather than doing what they want and being upset with the outcome. I personally think that is quite admirable as well.
Please don't just call it WHACK Jordan. Please explain the degree of whackness. You know - like compared to something else to make it relative. You're in college right?
As for your shitty attitude - I think it's whack. I have for a long time.
You certainly have a lot to express on internet forums. You're about as positive, informative and helpful to anyone, including yourself, as an average underachiever with a big mouth. I'm going to venture even further out on a limb and speculate I'm not the first person who shares this view - nor the first who has shared it with you.
Did you get to that point in class where they discuss relevance? You know - that part where you remove words and information that don't add anything to the story? Your words are generally irrelevant. Please bring something to the discussion or leave it. Otherwise you're just another person who feels they need to be heard to matter.
And yeah - take that personal.
panojibber
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I want to expand upon this post.
First of all, Moment DID have significant financial trouble within the last little while. I'm not saying that this is because of the quality of their skis or their business practises, its just something that happens to up-and-coming companies, and the way the economy is right now means anything can happen, quality product or not.
I'm not hating on the skiing, it may have seemed that way based on the post I quoted, but the skiing is (for the most part) good. I personally feel that moment has made a few questionable sponsorship moves (not pointing fingers at anyone in the v-blog here), and I've seen some content that has made me think this. If you want me to give names I will, but I'd rather not. That isn't good for anyone.
Moment does need the publicity, they're only known well within freeskiing, and unfortunately thats too small a world to keep a company going. This is why they sponsored the US mogul team, which was a great move. I'm sorry for thinking that the webisodes were associated directly with Moment. Unfortunately when you plaster a brand name across a title like that it can be deceiving.
I enjoyed watching it, but I still think it could be put together better and could use some work. I'm going to be honest here, the editing could use a little work.
I'm sorry that you all get butt-hurt about honesty, but realistically I'm surprised more people didn't feel the same way.
First of all, Moment DID have significant financial trouble within the last little while. I'm not saying that this is because of the quality of their skis or their business practises, its just something that happens to up-and-coming companies, and the way the economy is right now means anything can happen, quality product or not.
I'm not hating on the skiing, it may have seemed that way based on the post I quoted, but the skiing is (for the most part) good. I personally feel that moment has made a few questionable sponsorship moves (not pointing fingers at anyone in the v-blog here), and I've seen some content that has made me think this. If you want me to give names I will, but I'd rather not. That isn't good for anyone.
Moment does need the publicity, they're only known well within freeskiing, and unfortunately thats too small a world to keep a company going. This is why they sponsored the US mogul team, which was a great move. I'm sorry for thinking that the webisodes were associated directly with Moment. Unfortunately when you plaster a brand name across a title like that it can be deceiving.
I enjoyed watching it, but I still think it could be put together better and could use some work. I'm going to be honest here, the editing could use a little work.
I'm sorry that you all get butt-hurt about honesty, but realistically I'm surprised more people didn't feel the same way.
lol, wow. Ok. This is soo stupid, and this is the last thing I am going to waste my time saying.The whole shit-storm started off of one comment. Someone said that they thought the skiing was sub-par, but none the less, much appreciated. Then people start writing essays crying about it.As Jeff Schmuck put it "Newschoolers is the bathroom wall of the ski industry." People who write essays on the bathroom wall attacking others who didn't like their posted content are fucking idiots. I don't care if you go to law school or not, because that's irrelevant. You still sound like a cry baby.IF you want me to compare the video to something relative, I can. With the amount of sponsors and support these guys are getting, relative comparisons can be made with Traveling Circus, Shredn Breakfast, Chuglife etc. The intro song for this edit is a direct bite off of the TC intro, and a shitty one at that. The attempt at humor throughout was piss poor and rudimentary to say the least. I wont even compare the skiing, because thats what really sets this webisode series apart, the skiing sucks. So relatively, this websiode=Whack.To hear someone say that this skiing is at a professional level is disgusting. Not a single shot in that edit, or anything I have ever seen, deserves professional status. This is an absolute joke. People like Hornbeck, LJ, Will W, Seanyj, Ager, Spong, and literally HUNDREDS of others, are 50 times better, and get little to nothing in return.Look at the honorable mentions for Superunknown for example.http://www.level1productions.com/news.php?id=294These kids didnt even make it to finals, and are UNSPONSORED for the most part. Let alone getting paid. Every single one of them is better than this edit.The problem with the industry are people like Jason Tross, rubbing the balls of shitty skiers like the ones in the edit. The fact that you consider them on a professional level is nauseating.Skiing is a subjectively judged sport. Some people value slow, smooth spins over fast flipping double corks. However, subjectivity is irrelevant here... because these guys just suck at skiing period.Tross, I think you are mistaking me with someone you actually know. The 20 minutes we spent together last year in the Baker BC you were too busy verbally sucking off every skier you had ever met as well as fabricating affiliations and job titles with companies, to even get even the slightest idea of who I am. I think your idea of knowing someone, and having an opinion about their attitude "for a long time" is pretty skewed. I am still not exactly sure what it is you actually do or have done. Your article on Mt. Baker was about as interesting, well written, and properly fact checked as I expected from an old, wannabe, hack "writer" like yourself. Any person who has even heard of your name wont stop telling me how weird and annoying you are. I know you would like to think you have some big presence in the ski industry, but please, dont flatter yourself. I think you all need to re-evaluate how seriously you take yourselves... Tross, keep my name out of your mouth you fucking weirdo.
jeez guy maybe you and your boy should go in the bathroom and sword fight it out.
I mean, whatever you don't like it. ok. but man, chug life??? thats your comparison?Im quoting a great website here:“If I wasn’t so predisposed to metaphorically sucking pro wieners, wouldn’t I promptly leave any bar these guys walked into?”
rather see these cats skiing, reasonably well I thought, any day than that nonsense. shit is retarded.
I mean, whatever you don't like it. ok. but man, chug life??? thats your comparison?Im quoting a great website here:“If I wasn’t so predisposed to metaphorically sucking pro wieners, wouldn’t I promptly leave any bar these guys walked into?”
rather see these cats skiing, reasonably well I thought, any day than that nonsense. shit is retarded.
KapitolPhoto
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You guys are doing it wrong.
jex
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You are certainly entitled to your own opinion. I do not disagree that skiing is subjectively judged, most things in life are. However, I find it unnecessary for such strong discontent posted in a well intentioned thread. There will always be a negative opinion or aspect of everything, that is what incentivizes improvement. There is however, a notable distinction between useful criticism and flagrant hate. I perceive yours as the latter. What would you recommend; that we quit skiing because we don't meet your subjective threshold for legitimate skiing and video editing?
I take your criticism with a grain of salt. I know I am not even close to a "pro" skier, or even really good for that manner, but that does not stop me from doing what I love: Skiing. I ski with my friends, I try to progress, and I was honored that K.C. and Scotty let me film with them for 2 webisodes. I made a decision to return to school because I know that skiing, for 99% of people, is not financially sustainable source of income. For me, the only income I derived from skiing was "utles of happiness". I hope somehow you can appreciate that, because for every day I ski now, I have to sit at home and do homework throughout the evening and night to keep up with studies.
In my opinion, it's a bit absurd for you to critique me on my choice of vocabulary or grammatical and spelling errors. I'm not sure what you are trying to prove? My comments are a vehicle or expression and should not be construed as an english examination; this is after all a skiing website, not an english language examination forum.
I understand your point about NS being the "bathroom wall of the ski industry". However, this seems to be to be a negative thing for the site. If you agree, and view it as such, why then add to the reputation? It's like saying littering is a big problem and then dumping all your trash in the street. It doesn't make any sense. If you advocate a better and more positive environment on NS, you can't then lack the courage of your own convictions.
I hope you don't view this as hostile. I sincerely hope that you can step back and see things from other peoples perspective. If nothing else, we all share a common bond of being stoked on skiing and trying to encompass this unwavering passion into every facet of our lives.
I take your criticism with a grain of salt. I know I am not even close to a "pro" skier, or even really good for that manner, but that does not stop me from doing what I love: Skiing. I ski with my friends, I try to progress, and I was honored that K.C. and Scotty let me film with them for 2 webisodes. I made a decision to return to school because I know that skiing, for 99% of people, is not financially sustainable source of income. For me, the only income I derived from skiing was "utles of happiness". I hope somehow you can appreciate that, because for every day I ski now, I have to sit at home and do homework throughout the evening and night to keep up with studies.
In my opinion, it's a bit absurd for you to critique me on my choice of vocabulary or grammatical and spelling errors. I'm not sure what you are trying to prove? My comments are a vehicle or expression and should not be construed as an english examination; this is after all a skiing website, not an english language examination forum.
I understand your point about NS being the "bathroom wall of the ski industry". However, this seems to be to be a negative thing for the site. If you agree, and view it as such, why then add to the reputation? It's like saying littering is a big problem and then dumping all your trash in the street. It doesn't make any sense. If you advocate a better and more positive environment on NS, you can't then lack the courage of your own convictions.
I hope you don't view this as hostile. I sincerely hope that you can step back and see things from other peoples perspective. If nothing else, we all share a common bond of being stoked on skiing and trying to encompass this unwavering passion into every facet of our lives.
The webisodes are a product of TWO Moment sponsered atheletes, one that is on their pro team and one that is on their Am team. Those are KC Deane and Scott Nikkel, the rest of the supporting cast are just freinds of the family and supporters of Moment's work. They are in the webisode not because of their overwhelming ability but because they are out there everyday doing the samething everybody else on this website does, having fun skiing.
As KC said earlier the footage viewed in these edits is real time footage to get the stoke up of other riders. If you would like to see the pro level shots please wait for DOS Medias next film. Moment has not made any questionable sponsorship moves, they have two very talented individuals riding for them making these edits on their own time. Currently sponsoring big name pros for park is not their main priority.
And I'm still a little confused with where you are getting all your information, I am assuming that most of what you are saying are assumptions based off the little you know of Moment. For instance the US Mogul team is not sponsored by Moment, each athelete on that team is individually sponsored. Shannon Bahrke that won bronze is a talented local Tahoe athelete that rides for Moment. The US womens Gold winner Hannah Kearney is a Volkl rider. That is just one example of your misstaments.
As KC said earlier the footage viewed in these edits is real time footage to get the stoke up of other riders. If you would like to see the pro level shots please wait for DOS Medias next film. Moment has not made any questionable sponsorship moves, they have two very talented individuals riding for them making these edits on their own time. Currently sponsoring big name pros for park is not their main priority.
And I'm still a little confused with where you are getting all your information, I am assuming that most of what you are saying are assumptions based off the little you know of Moment. For instance the US Mogul team is not sponsored by Moment, each athelete on that team is individually sponsored. Shannon Bahrke that won bronze is a talented local Tahoe athelete that rides for Moment. The US womens Gold winner Hannah Kearney is a Volkl rider. That is just one example of your misstaments.
Thank you for naming 5 fully sponsored individuals, four of which are practically full-time pros, even if they don't have that status with their sponsors. As for the superunknons half those kids are Tahoe locals that are all friends of Moment and ski with the In the MOMENT crew guys on a regular basis, that all have opportunities to get shots in the webisodes.
The Superunknown honorable mentions are all really good, but what you are watching a half season up to a couple seasons worth of footage. They have put the accumulation of all their lifetime best shots into a 2 min video. The Moment webisodes represent a month, if that of riding, and have a running length of over 10 min, with 5-8 min of that being skiing footage. I'm sorry that you do not appreciate these websiodes, and I see that you get to ski with some of the best Washington locals on a daily basis that's really cool and many of them may be better than those in the webisodes, but are you or any of them putting out ten min of above par skiing a month along with getting other shots for feature films?
The Superunknown honorable mentions are all really good, but what you are watching a half season up to a couple seasons worth of footage. They have put the accumulation of all their lifetime best shots into a 2 min video. The Moment webisodes represent a month, if that of riding, and have a running length of over 10 min, with 5-8 min of that being skiing footage. I'm sorry that you do not appreciate these websiodes, and I see that you get to ski with some of the best Washington locals on a daily basis that's really cool and many of them may be better than those in the webisodes, but are you or any of them putting out ten min of above par skiing a month along with getting other shots for feature films?
panojibber
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Once again, I never said the skiing was bad in the webisode. I have no problem with the skiing for the most part. As for questionable sponsorship moves, I am entitled to my own opinion and am not directing that at anyone in the videoblog, or anyone in specific. I can if you want to and I can back it up, but I don't want to open that can of worms, it brings too much negativity.
I understand now what the webisodes are for, it just seemed like it had a different purpose initially and I was just explaining that. I still feel it could have been done better. I also maintain that the title associates it directly with the company, whether that was the intent or not. This is something that can be taken into account in future to improve the webisodes and help promote the company and/or riders better.
I guess I was wrong in saying that Moment sponsored the US team, but I know that they sponsor a ton of mogul skiers, as in a very large amount for such a small company. There are several skiers on the US team who ride for them, and its a great way for them to get their brand name out there, which is something they need to do. Sorry for being under the impression that Moment had sponsored the US team, I should have checked up on that first.
If people would just let the argument die it would be wonderful, I find I'm restating myself again and again. You can pick apart and misconstrue my posts all you want but the essence of what I'm saying is still the same. It would also let this thread get back on track to its actual purpose of sharing the webisode instead of a ridiculous bitchfest. Its not me thats wrecking this, its the people that can't get past a little honest criticism.
I understand now what the webisodes are for, it just seemed like it had a different purpose initially and I was just explaining that. I still feel it could have been done better. I also maintain that the title associates it directly with the company, whether that was the intent or not. This is something that can be taken into account in future to improve the webisodes and help promote the company and/or riders better.
I guess I was wrong in saying that Moment sponsored the US team, but I know that they sponsor a ton of mogul skiers, as in a very large amount for such a small company. There are several skiers on the US team who ride for them, and its a great way for them to get their brand name out there, which is something they need to do. Sorry for being under the impression that Moment had sponsored the US team, I should have checked up on that first.
If people would just let the argument die it would be wonderful, I find I'm restating myself again and again. You can pick apart and misconstrue my posts all you want but the essence of what I'm saying is still the same. It would also let this thread get back on track to its actual purpose of sharing the webisode instead of a ridiculous bitchfest. Its not me thats wrecking this, its the people that can't get past a little honest criticism.
jex
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No hate here brother!!! I really appreciate your response and acknowledgement and there was just some minor miscommunication. I wish your professionalism could be emulated by the other person in this thread. Your criticisms are note worthy and I know K.C. and Scotty will acknowledge them and try to make any possible changes to provide better webisodes in the future.
Personally, I'm glad you liked the webisode for the most part and hopefully all this miscommunication hasn't left a bitter taste. Hell, if you're ever out in Co or Tahoe, you should come shred with us. We all enjoy skiing and making new friends!!
Personally, I'm glad you liked the webisode for the most part and hopefully all this miscommunication hasn't left a bitter taste. Hell, if you're ever out in Co or Tahoe, you should come shred with us. We all enjoy skiing and making new friends!!
debrickshaw
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i was in the background at ruby hill!
and i love my reno rockers
fuck yeah moment
and i love my reno rockers
fuck yeah moment